Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · October 17, 2011
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 17,
2011 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Joseph Moloughney
Mr. Edward Carboni
Mr. Jake Dumesnil
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
Mr. Mark DeFruscio
ABSENT: Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 12, 2011 MEETING
Member DeFruscio moved to approve the minutes from the September 12, 2011 meeting. Member
Gariepy seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley ABSENT
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN REVIEW AT WATER SIDE
Attorney Peter Lynch represented the owner, Jim Finning, who also attended the meeting. The
owner proposes installing carports along Dyke Avenue and Wood Street. Locations were drawn
on the as-built survey of the development. Eight covered spaces would be adjacent to Wood Street
and 12 adjacent to Dyke Avenue.
The carports are pole barn type structures that can feature panels or remain open. TNT would bolt
the carports to the pavement. Color choices would match the existing buildings: rawhide roof and
pebble trim. That way the structures would blend with the existing buildings.
Initially the developer proposed garages where the berm divides Kelman’s from Waterside.
However, an ongoing property dispute has made it impossible to construct permanent buildings at
that location. Regardless, the monthly expense of garages exceeds tenants’ demand at Waterside.
After conducting a survey, Mr. Finning found that carports would meet the demand at an expense
the seniors who rent could afford.
The majority of the lot is first come first served parking. The covered spaces would become
designated parking spaces in exchange for a consideration. The two locations are near the entrance
to the parking entrance as well as close to the facility for ease of access. Since a percentage of the
tenants have disabilities or mobility impairments, these covered spaces need to be close for
accessibility purposes.
The developer is not removing any parking spaces, just covering existing parking. The developer
can easily remove the carports if they are unsightly or tenants do not rent them out. Since they are
in lieu of the garages, Mr. Lynch sought an interpretation of whether the Board requires an
amendment.
Chairman Moloughney explained that this constitutes an amendment that should include
consideration of the berm. Member DeFruscio further described the Board’s original review of the
garages’ height and appearance. Mr. Finning explained that the ongoing property dispute
prevented his surveyor from placing stakes inside the Kelman’s fencing. Therefore, the berm
created the buffer garages were supposed to create in the original approval. Kelman stores scrap
metal on a portion of property Finning’s surveyor indicated was Water Side property.
Chairman Moloughney does not question the placement of the berm or its use as a buffer; however
he would like to see it cleaned up. Initial discussions indicated that Mr. Finning might place a
fence or tree line on the berm. At a minimum the Board would like the concrete chunks covered or
removed and the berm seeded. Currently weeds and concrete stabilize the berm. Member Carboni
concurred that it is an eyesore when he drives by.
Chairman Moloughney expressed the same concern about the carports along Dyke Avenue. Metal
structures seem industrial for the residential community. He also questioned placement of carports
on DOT land where Water Side has an easement for parking. Mr. Finning agreed to consult with
DOT to possibly amend the agreement.
Member Gariepy asked how Dyke Avenue will appear with a row of carports. Mr. Lynch
explained that without panels it will look like one unit although the carports actually come in
sections of four. Member Gariepy asked the height of existing saplings and the proposed carports.
Mr. Finning described the saplings as 10’ tall and the carports as 12’ tall to the peak.
Member DeFruscio asked why Mr. Finning chose carports over garages. Mr. Lynch replied that
the $120,000 expense of garages exceeded what tenants were willing to pay for monthly fees;
whereas the carports cost $26,000 and can be removed if demand does not remain steady.
Conversely more can easily be added if demand increases. Mr. Lynch reiterated that the carports
cover existing parking so the amendment boils down to a row of parked cars versus a row of
parked cars covered by a carport.
Chairman Moloughney questioned compatability with the building. Mr. Finning assured the Board
that no one is more concerned about aesthetics than he is as it impacts rental rates. He suggested
he would be willing to landscape or enclose the carports with panels if the roof looks too industrial
for the site. Mr. Lynch asked if panels would mitigate the visual impact. Chairman Moloughney
thought panels would make the structure look like a metal shed.
Mr. Finning indicated he purchased the carports in pebble and rawhide. He proposed installing
them as temporary structures in lieu of submitting a rendering. The Board agreed to grant a 60 day
temporary approval for evaluation with final decision on landscaping and permanence dependent
on final approval of the site plan from the Board.
Member Gariepy moved for such a conditioned approval. Member Dumesnil seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley ABSENT
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
Member DeFruscio moved to adjourn at 7:15pm. Vice Chairman Badgley seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
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