Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · June 11, 2012
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON JUNE 11, 2012
AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
Mr. Edward Carboni
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
ABSENT: Mr. Jake Dumesnil
Chairman Joseph Moloughney
Mr. Mark DeFruscio
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 14th, 2012 MEETINGS
Member Carboni moved to approve the minutes conditioned on amending the motion to adjourn.
Member Gariepy seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A POOL AT 293 CENTRAL AVE
The applicant did not attend the meeting. Therefore Member Carboni moved to table the item.
Member Gariepy seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION OF 28 PEACH STREET
Wayne Lajeunesse owns property at 28 Peach Street he proposes subdividing into three lots. On
two resulting vacant lots he would like to install a modular duplex. Each unit would be sold
individually.
Member Carboni asked if the applicant proposes any off-street parking. Mr. Lajeunesse does not
intend to construct a garage or install a driveway as these would be the only homes on the end of
Peach Street. He proposes on-street parking instead, for which he would need a variance. He also
needs a variance from lot width for parcel “A” which is only 32’ wide when the code requires 40’.
Member Gariepy moved to approve the subdivision conditioned on obtaining a variance from lot
width and parking. Member Carboni seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR DORMITORY HOUSING AT 65 CONGRESS
STREET
Dan O’Neill purchased 65 Congress Street – the former St. Joseph’s. He proposes using the
existing dormitory style rectory rooms as suites for college students. Acting Chairman Badgley
pointed out he will need a variance for the number of units. Mr. O’Neill proposes eleven units
while the code limits the number of units to a maximum of three.
In the future he would also like to rent out the church to either a caterer, a restaurant or a banquet
hall. Parking for those uses under the code would be 1 per 100 sq ft. He does not have
measurements yet, but will need adequate parking for the church as well as the dorm rooms.
Member Gariepy asked which college students the applicant thinks will occupy the structure and
whether he discussed the opportunity with the administration. Mr. O’Neill spoke with students
from RPI and Sage who expressed an interest in living in the structure. Member Gariepy asked
what management the applicant proposes. He intends to hire an RA or residential advisor to
supervise the building and occupants. Alternatively, if 22 students cooperatively decide to rent he
would let them self-manage.
Member Carboni then asked about parking requirements. The Code is silent on Boarding House
requirements, but lists residential units which require two parking spaces and hotel rooms which
require one parking space per room. Member Gariepy favored two parking spaces per room since
the applicant is hoping to rent to two students per dorm room. In addition, those visiting hotel
rooms travel in one vehicle whereas the occupants live in the boarding rooms for at least nine
months. Mr. O’Neill countered that some students will not have a vehicle. He has a total of 61
parking spaces: 45 regular paved spaces and 16 overflow spaces on a grassy area that cannot be
paved. The grassy area caves in periodically due to rotting wood that was placed under the fill.
The land will require additional fill until all the material decomposes. Acting Chairman Badgley
pointed out that on-street parking is congested for residents, so the applicant could not rely on
using the street parking.
Member Gariepy asked if the applicant would install a dumpster. She indicated that the nature of
the use is a concern but that the Zoning Board of Appeals would need to consider whether to
permit 11 rooms when the code limits use to three rooms. The area is congested and high traffic
would add to the existing loitering, traffic and parking problems. Mr. O’Neill plans to use City
cans and hire County Waste to pick-up additional cans. He would use the grassy areas for snow
storage. He installed security cameras and found that young children sometimes use the lot for
playing, but he has not had any problems with vandalism or criminal behavior.
Acting Chairman Badgley asked if the garages would also be used for parking, which the applicant
confirmed would provide three spaces. Member Gariepy asked what lighting the applicant would
install. Mr. O’Neill intends to install lighting on the building and in the parking lot for safety.
As a result, Member Gariepy moved to approve the application conditioned on obtaining Zoning
Board of Appeals variances from the number of units and parking requirements; and provision of a
private garbage service. Member Carboni seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF AN ADDITION AT 421 COLUMBIA STREET
Dan Sanders, Architect for Northeast Eddy, presented an addition proposed for the Marjorie Doyle
building at 421 Columbia Street. The addition will provide 320 sq ft of interior space to divide a
multi-occupant room into two single occupant rooms. Private rooms are more marketable.
The proposal will include relocation of a waterline. However, the addition is an otherwise minor
change. Member Carboni asked if the applicant would extend the sidewalk, which Mr. Sanders
confirmed. The applicant will extend the 4’ wide walkway to the rear. Finally, the addition will
have the same windows, siding and roofing material as the existing structure.
Member Carboni moved to approve the application. Member Gariepy seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
DISCUSSION OF A SIX FAMILY NEW CONSTRUCTION AT 15-17 GARNER STREET
Robert Warland proposes constructing a six unit multi-family structure on vacant land at 15-17
Garner Street. The lots are adjacent to School 4 between where Worth and Vliet Streets cross
Garner Street.
Acting Chairman Badgley pointed out that proposal will require area variances from parking and
for lot width. Mr. Warland is scheduled to appear at the June 27th, 2012 ZBA meeting. He will
also pay for garbage pick-up through County Waste.
Member Gariepy asked for more information on the project. The Board is also accustomed to
more review time. Mr. Warland provided a site plan at the beginning of the meeting. Member
Gariepy asked the height of the three story structure as well as details on garbage storage, snow
storage, lighting, recreation area and parking accessibility in the neighborhood.
Mr. Warland explained that the basement floor is 4’ above grade and each floor above is 8’ high.
The roof peak adds another 12’. Therefore the total height of the building is 32’ while the code
allows a maximum of 35’. Snow storage would be placed on the 20’ between the house and the
parking lot. Finally, he does not see many cars parked on-street.
Regardless, Member Gariepy moved to table the item until next month pending submission of
details in writing. Member Carboni seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF SEQR AND A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN FOR A MULTI-
FAMILY OFF WILLIAMS STREET
Tom Andress, design engineer for the project, described the proposal as the same number of units
as a single and twin family home project approved several years ago on the same parcel. However,
in this instance the proposal is on a smaller footprint. In addition, the instant proposal improves
the William Street extension by crossing Cohoes Housing Authority (CHA) lands rather than grip
the edge of the ravine.
Member Gariepy asked whether the issues with CHA had been resolved. Developer Larry Regan
assured the Board that he and CHA were coming to an agreement. He is offering right of first
refusal to CHA for both management of the development and eventual sale in 40 years. The right
of first refusal is consideration for access across CHA land to extend William Street. Mr. Regan
has met with, received a positive response from and is willing to work with the full CHA Board.
CHA would like the City to approve the project prior to their involvement. Mr. Andress added that
CHA approved the prior project, so he does not foresee any large obstacles in the negotiations.
Member Carboni asked the applicant to explain “workforce housing.” Mr. Regan explained that
he can rent units to families making up to $50,000 annually depending on family size. Doing so
allows the property owner – an entity owned by Mr. Regan and his brother – to claim certain tax
credits. Member Gariepy asked if payments would still be made to the School District. Mr. Regan
explained that those tax credits can be handled in one of three ways: a payment in lieu of taxes
(PILOT), a 581A agreement or based on income of residents. The City benefits most from a
PILOT. The City has the option of dividing the funds as it sees fit; however the administration has
wisely decided to divide funds according to the current percentages. Member Carboni asked if the
tax credit impacted water and sewer. Mr. Regan explained that all special taxing districts are paid
the full amount due – there isn’t a credit or relief from water or sewer payments.
Mr. Regan further described the plan to manage the site for 40 years in order to garner more
credits. After 40 years the project can be sold. He is offering CHA right of first refusal on the sale
and the management of the site.
Member Carboni asked who would manage the site if CHA refuses. Mr. Regan hires Interstate, a
subdivision of the Michaels Group, to manage all of his developments. Acting Chairman Badgley
asked about street plowing and secondary access. Mr. Regan described the development as
entirely private, so he would pay CHA to plow the streets. A secondary access point is available
but would remain gated on a daily basis until needed for emergency. The buildings are fully
sprinkled.
Member Gariepy asked why the project is so close to the cliff and how the applicant would protect
children from entering the ravine. Mr. Andress asserted that the previous proposal was closer to
the ravine. He intends to install fencing in the wooded area so it isn’t visible but still provides
protection.
Member Gariepy asked about drainage and when the project would be reviewed by the Planning
Board Engineer, Thomas McGrath. Mr. Andress showed how the topography would force water to
drain south into the ravine. In addition, the project involves less impervious surface due to the
smaller footprint. Even so, Mr. McGrath would begin review once the developer felt certain that
the City would approve the project which would be apparent after the Zoning Board meeting on
June 27th, 2012.
Member Gariepy asked about a traffic study. Mr. Andress stated that the previous approval did not
warrant a traffic study. However, in the Environmental Assessment Form (EAF) engineers
described the peak traffic as 45 cars.
Councilwoman April Kennedy also wanted to see a traffic study due to increased traffic resulting
from a new convenience store and other development in the City since the last proposal was
approved. Mr. Andress explained that the purpose of a traffic study is to mitigate traffic problems.
Given the existing layout he did not see any changes that would improve existing conditions. He
is also concerned that the instant project isn’t the cause of the traffic problems and therefore would
be unable to improve the situation.
Councilwoman Kennedy is also concerned about water pressure due to the additional draw on
resources. She wants to ensure that the project does not reduce the amount of available water
during peak hours. Mr. Andress reminded the Board that engineers worked with the City to test
flow. The instant project would connect directly to the Manor Ave main line. Therefore, the
additional usage would not impact neighboring homes.
Finally, Councilwoman Kennedy expressed concern about the visual impact of the buildings’ three
story height. Mr. Regan explained that the project takes up a smaller footprint and viewshed with
the 3 story height. Mr. Andress added that given the location of the proposed two story as opposed
to the proposed location of the three story buildings, the three story will appear less intrusive. The
two story structure would have been 48’ above grade whereas the three story will appear 35’ above
grade.
Board members chose to save any site plan approvals for next month’s meeting. However,
Member Gariepy moved to make a negative declaration for SEQR purposes on the project.
Member Carboni seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Member Carboni moved to adjourn at 8:40pm. Member Gariepy seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
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