Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · February 11, 2013
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY
11, 2013 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
Mr. Edward Carboni
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
Mr. Jake Dumesnil
Mr. Mark DeFruscio
ABSENT: Chairman Joseph Moloughney
ALSO PRESENT: Melissa Ashline-Heil, Director of Building and Planning
Mayor George E. Primea, Sr.
Councilwoman Diane Nolin, Fourth Ward
Edward Tremblay, Community and Economic Development Director
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 14th, 2012 MEETING
Member DeFruscio moved to approve the minutes. Member Carboni seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR 53 BAKER AVE and 34 HAVEN
LANE
Surveyor Fred Metzger represented the owners, Armand and Alice LePage, in the proposed
subdivision of two lots into a total of three lots. Two of the lots contain residential single family
homes. The third is a vacant lot. All three meet the current zoning requirements for lot size,
width, depth and setbacks.
As a result Member Gariepy moved to approve the subdivision. Member DeFruscio seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A FINAL SITE PLAN FOR 480 COLUMBIA STREET
Chuck Marshall presented the final site plan for the Stewart’s and car wash at 480 Saratoga Street.
Member Carboni asked if the review engineer’s comments had been met. Mr. Marshall indicated
that mostly notes, identification notes, labels of details and handicap ramps had to be addressed.
The site plan had not changed significantly, and some stormwater details remain to work out with
the review engineer. However, even the stormwater system is substantially designed.
One minor change involves a freestanding sign advertising Stewarts. Like the monument sign for
the car wash, the sign will require an area variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals. Member
Gariepy also asked for a Stormwater Maintenance Agreement, which Mr. Marshall promised by
the end of the week. He also explained that both properties need to maintain the system even after
resale in the distant future. Mr. Marshall will file easements along with the as-builts post
construction.
Member Carboni questioned the freestanding sign in front of Stewarts which he stated would need
a variance. Mr. Marshall explained that the addition of a diesel handle on the pump made a
canopy sign impossible. Member Carboni questioned the placement of the sign which is at the
Columbia Street entrance.
Acting Chairman Badgley questioned when the noise levels would be tested. Mr. Marshall agreed
to check randomly post construction. He asked the City for a timeframe.
Member DeFruscio asked about other noise from the operation, such as loud radios or
unmaintained cars. He wondered to whom neighbors could report problems. Mr. Marshall agreed
neighbors could call Stewarts, the City or the Weaver group running the carwash. A sign with a
phone number will be posted at the carwash for any complaints.
Member Gariepy asked about the tree line buffer at the rear of the property that would preserve
existing growth. Mr. Marshall agreed that as many trees as could be kept would remain. In
addition the contractor will install a berm and place the 8’ natural wood stockage fence along the
berm.
Councilwoman Diane Nolin would like to ensure that issues acted upon throughout the process are
duly recorded and enforced. She accepted that there would not be a sidewalk on Monroe Street.
However, she wants to alleviate excessive noise at night without having to call police. Chuck
Alonge of 4 Wilson Lane added that he hoped Weaver Car Wash is as good a neighbor as
Stewarts.
Mr. Marshall expects construction to start at the end of March and continue for at least 8 weeks.
Construction hours are limited by City Code §189-2B from 6am to 9pm.
Member Carboni listed the conditions discussed as 1) establishment of a stormwater easement; 2)
submission of a stormwater maintenance agreement to be given to the City; and 3) the applicant
must obtain variances for the Car Wash’s monument sign and the Stewart’s freestanding sign.
Based on those conditions Member DeFruscio moved to approve the final site plan. Member
Dumesnil seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney ABSENT
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR 94 COLUMBIA STREET
Chuck Marshall represented Stewarts’ conceptual plan to expand the existing store by 700 sq ft.
and add 5,000 sq ft of parking at the rear of the property. In addition, the applicant proposes
installing elevan additional parking spaces along Central Avenue and behind the business.
Member Carboni questioned the safety of the left turn onto Columbia Street. Mayor Primeau
commented that the City made the Bedford Street stop “No Turn on Red” in order to alleviate that
hazard. Although he agreed there is always the potential for an accident Mayor Primeau finds that
the additional parking spaces behind the building will enhance the corner and the traffic problem
will self-correct.
Mayor Primeau also explained that the City has arranged to convey a portion of the Fire Station’s
land for the Stewart’s parking lot. Stewarts has agreed to permit Fire Department personnel to
park in the lot during emergencies.
Member DeFruscio questioned the slope between the Fire House and Stewart’s property. He
expressed concern that the slope is too steep to install parking. Mr. Marshall agreed to provide a
topographical map with the survey.
Member Carboni asked if Stewarts would provide a handicapped parking spot. Mr. Marshall
pointed out one with access from Central Avenue. However, he is willing to install another
handicapped accessible parking space along Columbia Street as well.
Member Carboni asked if landscaping would only be provided along Sandusky. Mr. Marshall
explained that there isn’t any curbing along the other sides. However, if the City would like a
planting on the corner of Columbia Street and Central Avenue then Stewarts would plant a garden
on the corner. Board members agreed that would enhance the corner.
Member DeFruscio asked about where deliveries would be dropped off. Currently the trucks drop
off goods on Central Avenue – on the west side of the building. Delivery trucks make a u-turn
during deliveries. However, the addition would have a delivery door at the rear of the building.
Member Carboni asked if lighting would remain the same. Mr. Marshall described softer LED
lighting that would replace the existing lighting. Member DeFruscio questioned whether the
addition and changes would reduce the carbon footprint, which Mr. Marshall hopes will result
from the changes.
Councilwoman Nolin asked if Stewarts would install outdoor seating. Mr. Marshall indicated that
picnic tables would be added. He also intends to fix the railing on the retaining wall.
Mr. Marshall would revisit the Board at next month’s meeting for approval. Melissa Ashline-Heil
will double check the SEQR requirements for the project.
Member DeFruscio moved to adjourn at 7:35pm. Member Carboni seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
Please note the next meeting will take place March 11, 2013.
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