Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · March 11, 2013
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON MARCH 11,
2013 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
Chairman Joseph Moloughney
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
Mr. Jake Dumesnil
Mr. Mark DeFruscio
ABSENT: Mr. Edward Carboni
ALSO PRESENT: Melissa Ashline-Heil, Director of Building and Planning
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 11th, 2013 MEETING
Member Dumesnil moved to approve the minutes. Member DeFruscio seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SUBDIVISION AT 42 and 44 LEVERSEE AVENUE
Surveyor Fred Metzger proposed subdividing a vacant lot behind 42 and 44 Leversee Avenue
which the owners would merge with each lot respectively. The lot line adjustments would
improve the non-conformance of each home in terms of setbacks. Chairman Moloughney added
that the proposal meets all other zoning requirements.
As a result Member Gariepy moved to approve the subdivision. Vice Chairman Badgley seconded
the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR 94 COLUMBIA STREET
Stewarts proposed a 700 sq ft addition with newly created parking on City land used for the Fire
Department. Tom Lewis explained that the company looks for stores with high volume sales for
expansion projects. The proposal also adds landscaping.
Member Dumesnil asked about the landscaping on the corner requested at the last meeting.
However, Stewarts found that the portion is small and plantings might interfere with cars pulling
out. Chairman Moloughney added that two curb cuts lead straight to the intersection. Mr. Lewis
explained that it is a tight lot. Chairman Moloughney suggested that the store widen access at
Sandusky.
Mr. Lewis agreed to attend the next month’s meeting after reviewing the Board’s request. The
Board agreed to table the item until next month’s meeting.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR 65 CONGRESS STREET
Dan O’Neill sought final site plan approval for assembly use at 65 Congress Street. He is willing
to limit his hours of operation to 12midnight. Member DeFruscio asked about trash removal and
snow storage. Mr. O’Neill explained that he was able to store 7” of snow fall on the grassy area of
the property this past season. As to trash he is willing to purchase two more cans.
Member DeFruscio pointed out that the proposed use is event based and attendees may need those
overflow parking spaces. Council member Fred Turcotte added that the City developed a map of
the municipal parking lots in the downtown area. He described public lots behind 130 and 122
Remsen Street as well as a private lot behind 134 Remsen Street. Ed Tremblay, Community and
Economic Development Director, added that Sargent Street has a significant lot.
Chairman Moloughney explained that excessive reliance on municipal lots also creates wear and
tear. In addition the Planning Board is authorized to require the developer to place money in
escrow or make improvements to the municipal lot(s). The Sargent Street lot needs work and
Lancaster Street lot needs potholes filled. Chairman Moloughney commented that it would be
difficult to assess an appropriate contribution at this time since there is great uncertainty about how
much the applicant will depend on the lots and the number of events he will attract to his facility.
The applicant’s contribution to the lot maintenance or improvement should be commensurate with
his use of them. Member Gariepy suggested checking in at six month intervals to assess use and
lots’ needs. Mr. O’Neill responded that paving a lot is expensive and suggested a nominal
surcharge per event ticket could be assessed that he would place in escrow for lot improvements
and maintenance
Councilwoman Diane Nolin questioned the maximum occupancy of the space. Chairman
Moloughney explained that code requirements would normally determine occupancy. He
explained that the concern isn’t necessary building occupancy, but the size of any given event or
gathering at the facility and the commensurate impacts such a crowd would have on the
surrounding neighborhood. Mr. O’Neill added that the parking space variance is based on the
number of people. Over 100 people requires valet parking at a municipal lot cleared by the City on
a case by case basis. The 6400 sq ft assembly area at 7 sq ft per person according to the code
would allow up to 778-1200 people, depending on seating arrangements. Chairman Moloughney
pointed out that 800-1200 people leaving an event and emptying directly into a residential
neighborhood could be problematic. This is especially true in his case when most of the facility’s
parking needs will be satisfied by distant municipal lots. Chairman Moloughney also discussed his
concern that such a large and possibly noisy and disruptive crowd would be leaving an event at
midnight, possibly creating a significant negate impact on the surrounding neighborhood.
Mr. O’Neill does not want to limit the capacity at all. He also stated he does not want to reapply
for expanded use. However the Board was uncomfortable authorizing that many people in that
space without adequate precautions. Chairman Moloughney and Member Dumesnil proposed
approval at 400 people with the caveat the applicant could return any time in the future if he
wanted to amend his approval for expanded attendance. Otherwise the Board is not only
authorized, but is responsible for weighing the site specifics to determine and require mitigation of
any potential nuisances.
Mr. O’Neill offered limiting his event sizes to 600 people. Councilman Turcotte added that City
of Cohoes has had to close several clubs due to problems. Chairman Moloughney added that while
the building’s safe occupancy may be 1200 people, the parking variance is not for 1200 people, as
there aren’t 1200 parking spaces available in the municipal lots. Where would the applicant
propose parking all of the extra cars if he had an event that large? Member DeFruscio suggested
setting a limit and requiring a permit for larger events. However, Mr. O’Neill did not want to
return to the Board. Member Gariepy pointed out the neighborhood might not be able to withstand
that kind of event without mitigation.
Councilwoman Nolin reminded the applicant and the Board that at the ZBA meeting the applicant
proposed weddings with a maximum of 200 people. Mr. O’Neill explained that weddings would
require tables and would not use the stage area. Chairman Moloughney offered that the Board
could vote on 400, 600 or table the application. Mr. O’Neill did not want to limit occupancy to
400. Ms. Ashline-Heil explained that if the Board voted and denied the application he would be
barred from reapplication for a period of one year. Therefore, Mr. O’Neill agreed to table the
request. However he questioned what additional information he would need to provide.
Member Dumesnil explained that the request is unprecedented and the impact to the City is not
entirely clear at this meeting. Therefore the request needs additional research. Ms. Ashline-Heil
added the applicant should count the available parking spaces in municipal lots. He should also
answer the questions posed at tonight’s meeting: What is the maximum attendance proposed?
How would the applicant handle any nuisances?
As a result, Member DeFruscio moved to table the request. Member Gariepy seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR LEXINGTON HILLS
Developer Bill Hoblock and Landscape Architect Joe Dannible described the project. It would
contain 408 luxury rental units in 35 buildings. Each building will contain 10-12 units. Each unit
would have an interior garage and 1044 parking spaces which equals 2.5 spaces per unit. Sixty
three acres would remain a no-disturbance buffer between neighboring residential areas and the
project.
In the past nine months the developer has been ironing out engineering issues, which have been
resolved. The project received County Planning Board approval. The developer submitted the
Traffic Study. The developer is replacing a CSO at Lancaster Street to fix an overflow problem.
He intends to start construction of the project next spring.
The project would involve three phases. In the first phase 198 units would be constructed along
with the clubhouse. The second phase would involve 120 units and a maintenance building. The
final phase would involve 90 units and the fitness center.
Chairman Moloughney explained that the major issue remaining based on review engineer Thomas
McGrath’s last letter is how to calculate stormwater impacts and the appropriate sizing of the
practices. Chairman Moloughney, Tom McGrath, the City Engineer, and the developer’s engineer
met during the previous week to discuss the storm water system and the interpretation of DEC’s
new standards. Chairman Moloughney is satisfied that the developer has reasonably interpreted
the DEC standards and has designed a system in compliance with DEC requirements. The
applicant will respond to Tom’s letter.
Mr. Hoblock added that the regulation is relatively new so it’s a grey area. However, the site plan
has remained the same.
In addition, the developer is improving the City’s system in the water quality sewer separation
project on Lancaster Street. Councilwoman Nolin asked where the project will connect for water
and sewer on Western Avenue. Mr. Hoblock described the sewer connection at Eagle’s Nest
Ravine Interceptor and the water connection at the Columbia Street and Baker Avenue Interceptor.
Member Gariepy asked how else the project benefits the City. Chairman Moloughney explained
that the developer will pay property taxes, while increasing the sales tax revenue by increasing the
City’s population. Finally, the street will remain private which means the developer will incur any
maintenance costs and provide private trash pick-up. Therefore the project does not cost the City
in terms of services.
Member DeFruscio moved to approve the project with a condition that the design engineer respond
to review engineer Tom McGrath’s letter of February 19, 2013. Member Gariepy seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy X
Mark DeFruscio X
Member Dumesnil moved to adjourn at 8:15pm. Vice Chairman Badgley seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
Please note the next meeting will take place April 8, 2012.
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