Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · June 11, 2018
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON JUNE 11, 2018
AT 6:30 PM IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ms. Stephanie Couture
Mr. Bob Bucher
Mr. Joseph Nadeau
Vice Chairman Jack Carroll
Chairman Mark DeFruscio
ABSENT: None
ALSO PRESENT: Robyn Reynolds, Deputy Director of Economic Development and
Planning
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 11, 2018 MEETING
Chairman DeFruscio opened the meeting at 6:30 pm and asked if any of the Planning Board
members had any comments on the proposed minutes. Member Nadeau moved to approve the
minutes and Member Couture seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Bob Bucher
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll X
Stephanie Couture X
CONSIDERATION OF A PRIVATE SWIMMING POOL AT 31 MCELWAIN AVENUE
Chairman DeFruscio asked the applicants to approach the Board and reviewed the application.
Chairman DeFruscio asked who was installing the pool and the applicants noted it was being
installed by A-Frame Pools. Chairman DeFruscio explained that the Planning Board is mainly
concerned about the event in which a pool might break and where the water might flow in that
case. The applicant answered that in this case, the water would run across the street and there are
small alleys in which the water can flow and pointed out that the neighbors already have above
ground pools. Chairman DeFruscio asked about the dimensions and the applicant noted that this is
the smallest pool that they can install. Member Nadeau pointed out that occasionally there are
issues with draining the pools and Chairperson DeFruscio noted that it’s a small amount of water
and not substantial. The applicant agreed that it is not a substantial amount of water in terms of
drainage, especially given that it’s only a 12’ pool. Member Nadeau moved to approve the special
use permit for a private swimming pool at 31 McElwain Avenue, which Member Carroll seconded
and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll X
Stephanie Couture X
CONSIDERATION OF A PRIVATE SWIMMING POOL AT 113 CONTINENTAL
AVENUE
Chairman DeFruscio asked the applicant who would be installing the pool. The applicant noted
that it would be A-Frame pools and that the pool would be 15’ in diameter and 54” high. The
applicant noted that the installer would be doing all grounding and electrical work. Chairperson
DeFruscio brought up the concern of where the water would flow if the pool would break to which
the applicant noted that it would drain forward towards the street and that there is drainage next the
road. The applicant noted that there would be no impacts on the neighbors and if anything, it
would drain to the basement of the home currently at 113 Continental Avenue. Chairperson
DeFruscio confirmed that it would drain towards the street and would not impact neighbors. The
applicant explained that it would be coming down the hill.
Chairperson DeFruscio asked Common Council Member Randy Koniowka in the audience if he
was familiar with the property, to which he confirmed.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted that there should be a conditional approval dependent on the Zoning
Board of Appeals review in terms of the variances for the front setback. Member Couture made a
motion to approve the special use permit for a private swimming pool at 113 Continental Avenue
conditional upon the approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals for the front variance, which
Member Carroll seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll X
Stephanie Couture X
CONSIDERATION OF A SUBDIVISION AT APPROXIMATELY 299-401 SARATOGA
STREET (JUNCTA SUBDIVISION)
Deputy Director Reynolds introduced the project and noted that the Cohoes Industrial
Development Agency is proposing to subdivide a parcel that was previously lands owned by the
Canal Corporation into four separate lots. Deputy Director Reynolds noted that all four lots met
zoning and code requirements, with the exception of Lot 3 which does not currently have frontage
and therefore needs an area variance. Deputy Director Reynolds noted that Lots 3 and 4 have
interest from adjoining land owners to purchase and therefore would have frontage in the future.
Deputy Director Reynolds pointed out that Lot 2 is a future lot for redevelopment by the
Community Builders, while Lot 1 currently has no plans for redevelopment.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted that Lot 1 had an issue with gradation, and Lot 3 would be difficult,
but that Lot 2 has potential development already being proposed. Chairperson DeFruscio
remarked that the issue with Lot 1 is that there is no access point and that access on Saratoga Street
would not be allowable given the required distance needed from an intersection and that the
western side on Dyke Avenue has a similar issue.
Member Carroll pointed out that the grading plan would suggest that there could be a driveway for
ingress on Saratoga Street and that the slope is not a major concern. There was discussion of the
fact that the Community Builders are proposing a development with a similar gradation in terms of
ingress and egress near Lot 1 and there could be a potential shared driveway, if it made sense.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted concerns on whether or not Lot 1 is developable based on the issues
with potential ingress and egress to the site and wanted more information on the intended future
uses of the lot.
Common Council Member Randy Koniowka noted that the idea is to spur commercial
development on Lot 1 and that there was nearby development proposed that would make this
subdivision partially commercial and partially residential. Audience member Melissa Cherubino
(of the Community Builders) stated that original ideas for Lot 1 may have been a drive-thru facility
or something similar.
Chairperson DeFruscio stated that there were different ways of dividing the lot and it may make
sense for the Community Builders to also purchase Lot 1 for a shared driveway. Chairperson
DeFruscio noted that he would like more information on the intended future uses for Lot 1 and
asked if other members would like more information before proceeding. Member Nadeau noted
that he would like more information. Member Carroll stated that he does not feel that he needs
more information given that engineers for the Community Builders have similar grading issues and
do not have concerns. Chairperson DeFruscio noted that he was concerned about approving a lot
that would not be usable in the future unless there was a shared driveway with the Community
Builders. A representative from the Community Builders noted that they would be amenable to
discussing a shared driveway. Member Bucher noted that short of shared ingress/egress that he did
not see an issue with Lot 1.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted that more information was needed in order to move forward with
approving the subdivision. Member Carroll stated that the review of the subdivision should not
take into account future development as each project would need to be proposed and reviewed
individually. Chairperson DeFruscio noted concerns over future allowable uses of Lot 1 and the
need for more information on gradation and other features of the site. Member Couture noted that
she would like more information on the lots as proposed in terms of frontage, access and intended
uses in terms of commercial and residential use. Member Carroll noted that he did not think that
access was an issue as he believed that an appropriate ingress and egress could be constructed on
the site. Member Nadeau mentioned that without proper ingress and egress, there was concern that
the lot would not be buildable.
Member Carroll made a motion to approve the plan as submitted, which was seconded by Member
Bucher. Members Carroll and Bucher voted aye and Chairperson DeFruscio, Member Nadeau,
and Member Couture voted nay and the motion did not pass.
Chairperson DeFruscio discussed that changes to the plan or additional information should be
gathered before the preliminary plat could be approved. Chairperson DeFruscio suggested that
there be a meeting between the Planning Board and the Economic and Community Development
Office before the next meeting to sort out questions brought up during the meeting. Melissa
Cherubino from the Community Builders pointed out that once SEQR is open on the Community
Builders site, the Planning Board can’t make a final decision on the preliminary plat and would
need to wait until SEQR is closed.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll X
Stephanie Couture X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN AT 401 SARATOGA STREET AND SEQR ON THE
COMMUNITY BUILDERS SITE PLAN/JUNCTA SUBDIVISION
Representatives from the Community Builders were in attendance to present on the proposed
project which is a multi-family residential project on Lot 2 of the proposed subdivision with 39
units. The applicants noted that there would be 15,000 SF of residential space with the units being
mixed 1,2, and 3 bedroom units. There would be on-site parking with roughly 85 parking spaces, a
playground and some basic landscaping. The lot is 1.7 acres total and there would be two specific
points of entry. The applicants noted that this is a good site from a grading standpoint and that
they are moving through preliminary work on water and sanitary considerations for the project.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted that the snow storage and green space plans look good and that while
there are no current neighbors as there may be future neighbors, the lighting is an important
consideration. Member Bucher pointed out that on-grade parking for the common entrance and
pointed out the garage level entrance at the floor. Member Carroll noted that the Community
Builders took advantage of the elevation change with the front floor design and pointed out the
invisible parking lot near the back of the building (on 787) as opposed to front parking on Saratoga
Street. Member Bucher asked about sidewalk plans and they noted they planned on installing a
sidewalk.
There was discussion on the new boulevard system being constructed on 787in relation to traffic
impacts of the project. Chairperson DeFruscio noted the change to a boulevard system that would
potentially cause more traffic on Saratoga Street. Member Carroll stated that the new speed limits
would be somewhere between 40 and 45 mph. Chairperson DeFruscio noted that it may be best to
combine Lots 1 and 2 per the Community Builders’ Plans. Member Carroll noted that the shared
ingress and egress wouldn’t be an issue then. Member Nadeau asked how many stories the
building would be, and the Community Builders noted as planned there would be 3 stories.
Chairperson DeFruscio asked if there were any viewshed impacts, to which the Community
Builders noted that they did not anticipate any.
Chairperson DeFruscio noted that the Planning Board needed to vote on intent to Declare Lead
Agency for the Community Builders site plan and that this would be a coordinated review. The
rest of the parcels included in the Community Builders project had already been reviewed and a
negative declaration had been issued. Chairperson DeFruscio explained that SEQR would need to
be re-opened for all of the sites. Melissa Cherubino from the Community Builders explained that
the project and the subdivision would need to be reviewed all at once under SEQR to avoid
segmentation.
The Community Builders asked if there were any specific comments they could address at
upcoming meetings. Member Bucher noted that things looked good, but that a breakdown and
spec sheet on lighting would be appreciated as well as some notes on vegetative screening as well
as drainage plans for stormwater.
Member Couture made a motion to pass a Resolution stating that the Planning Board intended to
declare lead agency for a coordinated SEQR review for the Community Builders project and
related subdivision, which Member Nadeau seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll X
Stephanie Couture X
DISCUSSION
Being no further business Chairperson DeFruscio made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 7:37
pm. Member Carroll seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
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