Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · August 10, 2020
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD HELD VIRTUALLY ON
AUGUST 10, 2020 at 6:30PM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Mark DeFruscio, Chairperson
Ms. Stephanie Couture
Mr. Bob Bucher
Mr. Joseph Nadeau
ABSENT: Mr. Jack Carroll, Vice Chairperson
ALSO PRESENT: Joseph Seman-Graves, City Planner
Sharon Butler, Administrative Assistant
Chairperson DeFruscio called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm.
Roll Call: Absent Mr. Jack Carroll, Vice Chairperson, all other members present
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES FROM THE JULY 13, 2020 MEETING
Chairperson DeFruscio: has everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes and are there any questions about the
meeting minute from the July 13, 2020, meeting?
Joe Seman-Graves; Bob Bucher is signing on now
Chairperson DeFruscio; Bob we are starting with agenda item #1, consideration of the July 13, 2020 meeting minutes. I
mentioned that I haven’t given to Joe the changes that I wanted for the March meeting minutes but he said he went
through them and found a couple of grammatical errors that he corrected, we will go over that some other time. So I asked
everyone if they had the opportunity to review the meeting minutes, if any changes are needed. So if we have a motion to
accept them as submitted. I’m looking for comments from the board on the meeting minutes.
Bob Bucher: I will make a motion to approve the minutes as documented
Stephanie Couture 2nd.
Stephanie Couture seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll ABSENT
Stephanie Couture X
Chairperson DeFruscio stated to the Board that they are switching agenda items around as the applicant for 159 Remsen
Street joined the meeting and is at work.
CONSIDERATION OF A NEW BUSINESS AT 159 REMSEN STREET
Chairperson DeFruscio: Next on the agenda is the consideration of a new business to be located at 159 Remsen Street,
owner of the business Kelly Knutsen. Kelly can you give the board an overview of what your doing?
Kelly Knutsen; I am looking to open a business called The Local. It is like an indoor farmers market located on the first
floor of the new apartment building that went up on Remsen Street and White Street. We’ll have fresh local produce, grab
and go food and drinks, local honey, homemade jams and cookies, but everything will be sourced from local vendors and
Cohoes where possible, otherwise within the Capital region
Chairperson DeFruscio; your hours of operation 7AM to 10PM?
Ms. Knutsen; yes, we might end up closing a little earlier but the thought process is folks that work late or before they go
to work, they can stop and grab a coffee or sandwich to go on the way out of the building or something quick on their way
in.
Chairperson DeFruscio; it is going in the new space right on Remsen Street, that is good. Do the Board members have
any questions?
Bob Bucher: no, I couldn’t be happier
Ms. Knutsen; same, I thought it was an exciting concept. I’m happy and excited to see something go in that space.
Chairperson DeFruscio; I’m asking now if anyone on the meeting, if they have any comments, Public Comments are open
for anyone in the public to make any comments, positive, negative or whatever for the new business on Remsen Street.
Joe is there anyone on from the public on?
Joe Seaman-Graves: no the only people on the meeting are for Hoffman’s
Chairperson DeFruscio; no public comments. Looking for viability for new business application at 159 Remsen Street.
Are there any comments from the board, positive or negative? I heard positive, anybody have anything else to say? If not
then I’m looking for a motion to approve the business application at 159 Remsen Street.
Joe Nadeau; with no further comments I make a motion to accept the proposal as submitted
Stephanie Couture; 2nd the motion and it passes unanimously.
Chairperson DeFruscio; looking forward to visiting you and good success.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll ABSENT
Stephanie Couture X
CONSIDERATION OF FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT 378 SARATOGA STREET-HOFFMAN’S
Chairperson DeFruscio: Next on the agenda is a determination of Final Site Plan Approval at 378 Saratoga Street. Joe can
you update the board on where they are with variance and everything else?
Joe Seman-Graves; the Zoning Board approved them for the use variance and traffic commission Paul Johnston is fine
with the plan minus—the only thing here and it was recently re-striped to, so the applicant might not have to make any
changes, according to Paul Johnston which is fine, but the only thing on the plan he is not ok with is the Right Hand turn
onto Spring Street which is a one way in the opposite direction.
Chairperson DeFruscio; yes you can’t go up there but you’re not supposed to go up there but there is regular traffic that
goes up the hill. My mother lives on Spring Street.
Frank Palumbo representative from Hoffman’s; we put those things on there so to prove we’re not infallible
Joe Seman-Graves; as long as the right hand turn is taken out he is fine. Regarding the comments from the Historic
Board, they actually sent me something that I haven’t passed along to Hoffman’s yet, it’s a narrative. It wasn’t’ enough of
a narrative, it was pretty much, they gave me a clipping from an article used in the past. I ‘m waiting to get the expanded
narrative so long story short, the Historic Board is going to send me information. Hoffman’s-depending on the size of the
plaque they have to put in, there might be a few location that they relocate the existing historical marker and the new
plaque too. I have asked that they give us some ideas on a location but not put it on the Final Site Plan yet until we realize
the size of the plaque and where optimal location will be. I can have Frank give us a couple of ideas of where they might
put it—it’s just not reflected on the site plan.
Frank Palumbo; Joe, sorry I tried to get an email to you today—one of the things we’re looking at doing, we want the
marker to be in a place where the public can see it as much as possible and we also wanted it close to where it’s
meaningful. Obviously ours is a car orientated business so we are committed to working with Joe and the Historic
Commission to work out something well. What we are thinking, one thing that we did add to the plan that I tried to get
email to Joe, down, if you see what is in this plan-upper right hand corner where our drive lane comes through and turns
left into the wash bay down by the building there (area shown on the PowerPoint) right to the right of that, Joe if you
could with your cursor come down just a little, proposing that a flag pole would go there. Hoffman’s has them on every
site and what we had envisioned was possibly having a little landscaped area around there with a sidewalk that could lead
in from the sidewalk on Dyke Ave.. That was our first idea, then the marker could go somewhere in that general area.
There are a couple of things I think we could work at with DOT—like there is a guardrail there, there is also some
guidewires with national grid. So one of the other things and Joe mentioned this before, is that if somebody was actually
using the sidewalk right in about the place you have your cursor, up a little closer to where the sidewalk ends and goes to
a crosswalk to the island and then further on, somebody crossing the street there or waiting to cross the street, we could
put the marker right behind the sidewalk there, obviously that would be in public lands and right of way but Hoffman’s
would be committed to working a final version of construction that marker and the contribution of cost of that marker. I
think the word is being flexible, work with and continue to work with Joe so we would like to have this as final approval
and just as building permit plans are submitted by that time, we would have worked out with Joe for the final location of
it. Hoffman’s is absolutely committed to doing this, it’s not something that were going to come back and say now we
don’t want to do it. It just those are locations we were suggesting and one of the reasons was that we didn’t want to have
anything further that could potentially block off the site distance—so that took away around the corner from the driveway
around Dyke because we are clearing that whole area, but want to make sure that cars can see there, so depending on the
size of the marker, wording and what we do, whether or not we add images, we didn’t want to put anything in that zone.
If we have some room to do something down on the site, but we thought that was taking away from the public area—we
thought that it being at least linked in to the sidewalk was a fair idea. But we are also open to any ideas and thoughts the
board may have.
Chairperson DeFruscio; what we would probably do is give you Final Site Plan approval with condition of you coming to
an agreeable solution with Joe and Historic Society of what and where you’re going to that on the site. We know you’re
good to work with us to make it happen so we can word it that way going forward. We wouldn’t want to hold you up from
starting because we don’t have a location yet. We should go right now to public comments, see if there’s anybody from
the public that wants to make any comments. I would make a comment that I look forward to this business being there as
well. Its been a long time since we’ve had a car wash down in our area down there, there used to be one 3 or 4 buildings
from where you’re building on that is now a granite top store, it used to be a car wash and the car wash that was down on
Saratoga Street just inside Watervliet, recently burned down so there’s nothing in that area to draw traffic away from you-
so it’ll be good to have a car wash there. Anybody else have any comments?
Bob Bucher; I do Mark if I may. I know you opened it up to public comments, I obviously share your sentiments very
much in favor of the project and Frank to that point, I would love to see just a little commitment there the flag pole-some
sort of—I know it’s public right of way, but I think the place for, I totally agree for that marker, some landscaping and
maybe even a little concrete off shoot—just a little special place. It’s the gateway to the City—Hoffman’s is going to
build an attractive building and I just think it would be wonderful at that location opposite the island to have
something—somewhere in there and again understanding that it is the public right of way, but I think it would be really
nice as a feature coming in the City.
Joe Nadeau; I would just like to re-enforce the thought process of staying away from Dyke and Saratoga, keeping that as
clear as possible, so I like the idea of staying away from that area. I agree with what Bob said, putting the marker down in
that location would be better served.
Chairperson DeFruscio; any other comments from the public? Joe is anyone from the public on?
Joe Seman-Graves; no, just us and Hoffman’s representatives
Chairperson DeFruscio; with that note, does the board have any more comments or observations, requests? If not, I’d
move for somebody to make a motion to a Final Site Plan approval with the one consideration of the signage for the
Historic site be finalized during the process here.
Bob Bucher; would adding a flag pole too, would that be appropriate?
Chairperson DeFruscio; I was under the understanding that they would put a flag pole there no matter what.
Bob Bucher; ok
Marty Andrews from Hoffman’s; there will be a flag pole going up so Frank and I talked about it today about how to
incorporate the Historical marker with the flag pole. I think we came up with a pretty good idea we just didn’t get it down
on paper for you, for everyone to see. We will run that by your group and I think everyone will be happy.
Bob Bucher; ok, great Marty thank you.
Chairperson DeFruscio; Bob I heard him say that they put a flag pole on every site, they were intending to put a flag pole
there and marry it with the Historic request from the Historic Society for the marker of some sort.
Chairperson DeFruscio; so does anyone want to make a motion?
Bob Bucher; I’ll make that motion as Mark stated
Joe Nadeau; 2nd the motion
Joe Seman-Graves; Motion is Final Site Plan approval with the consideration of the final location of the marker and flag
pole. I believe the flag pole is incorporated on the landscaping.
Bob Bucher; I didn’t see it but could have missed it
Joe Seman-Graves; for argument sake them the motion for Final Site Plan approval with consideration of marker and flag
pole to be added.
Bob Bucher; correct
Bob Bucher; made motion to approve the Final Site Plan approval as stated
Joe Nadeau; 2nd motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson DeFruscio: Ok, so at this point I will be looking for a motion from the Board.
YES NO
Bob Bucher X
Joseph Nadeau X
Mark DeFruscio X
Jack Carroll ABSENT
Stephanie Couture X
Joe Seman-Graves; can I ask the Hoffman crew, we’re approaching winter, what’s the time line for proceeding with the
project?
Marty Andrews; thinking it’s probably going to be spring start. We’ll get plans over the winter and get them out to bid
early December/January with March start date—that’s what we are shooting for.
Joe Seman-Graves; so we have plenty of time to work on this location of the marker.
Marty Andrews; yes
Chairperson DeFruscio; what is your wrap up on the Rte 7 location?
Marty Andrews; we hope to be open in December. We also have a store going in Syracuse, sorry Utica starting in
October—we have a lot going on.
Bob Bucher; that is a good thing.
Chairperson DeFruscio; we hope everything works out and hope it’s a big success and we look forward to the completion.
Based on that, does anyone have any other business, comments, anything like that?
On that note it’s 6:51PM anyone want to make a motion to close?
Stephanie Couture; made motion to close the meeting at 6:51PM
Bob Bucher; 2nd motion.
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