Zoning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · June 25, 2014
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HELD IN THE
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF COHOES CITY HALL ON WEDNESDAY,
JUNE 25, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. John Hughes, Chairman
Mr. Francis Houle, Vice-Chairman
Mr. Randy Koniowka
Mr. Mark Cotch
Mrs. Joyce Baranski
ALSO PRESENT: Mrs. Melissa Cherubino, Director of Building and Planning
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM MAY 28, 2014.
Chairman Hughes called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm. The Chairman asked the
recording secretary to take attendance. Member Cotch moved to approve the minutes of March
26, 2014. Vice Chairman Houle seconded the motion, roll of call was taken and the motion
passed four to one absention.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Randy Koniowka X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
CONSIDERATION OF AN AREA VARIANCE FROM SETBACKS FOR A POOL AT 19
RIVER STREET
Carl Jourdanais sought an 8.5’ area variance approval for his existing 16’ round above ground
pool which is located 1.5’ from the side property line abutting Jackson Avenue. Mr. Jourdanais
uses the principal structure as a single family home for him, his wife and children. A recently
renovated catch basin sits on the corner of Jackson Avenue and River Street. The pool replaced
the same product on the same footprint that failed eight years ago. At that time the pool wall
collapse did not flood any neighbor or the street. According to the applicant the pool is at least
60’ from any neighbor.
When questioned whether any other location would accommodate the pool and preserve the
required setbacks, Mr. Jourdanais explained that his yard does no have any other space 15’ wide
or greater to accommodate the pool. He has 4’ from the pool to the house, but needs to preserve
that path. When questioned whether a deck is used for access or conversely the placement of the
removable ladder when not in use, Mr. Jourdanais described placing the removable ladder on the
other side of the yard. Furthermore he drains off 1.5’ of water off in the fall for storage until the
next summer.
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Mr. Koniowka questioned the powerline showing on a submitted photograph. Mr. Jourdanais
removed the lead cord and replaced with an underground dedicated line as required by code.
The only overhead line is a phone cable which isn’t directly over the pool.
As a result, Vice Chairman Houle moved to approve the variance. Member Baranski seconded
the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Randy Koniowka X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
CONSIDERATION OF AN AREA VARIANCE FROM SETBACKS AT 259 VLIET
BOULEVARD
The applicant did not attend the meeting. Therefore, Vice Chairman Houle moved to table the
variance. Member Cotch seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Randy Koniowka X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
CONSIDERATION OF AN AREA VARIANCE FROM SETBACKS AT 580 SARATOGA
STREET
Bill Pterniak proposed replacing his existing 10’X17’ garage with a 24’X24’ garage. The
existing garage won’t accommodate even one vehicle. The new structure would accommodate
two vehicles and basic lawn tools. Vice Chairman Houle asked whether it would have a pitched
roof, whether any drainage problems would result and the garage height. Mr. Pterniak described
8’ walls with a pitched roof as staying below the code maximum of 15’. He hasn’t experienced
any drainage problems to date. Chairman Hughes asked what is adjacent to the structure and Mr.
Pterniak explained that the neighbor’s home is 30-40’ away beyond the driveway. Member
Baranski added that the house sits back on the lot.
As a result Vice Chairman Houle moved to approve the variance. Member Baranski seconded
the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
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Randy Koniowka X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
CONSIDERATION OF REHEARING AN AREA VARIANCE FROM FENCE HEIGHT
AT 43 DAVID DRIVE
Laurie Kmiec of 42 David Drive requested a rehearing of the area variance from fence height for
43 David Drive approved at the May 28th meeting. She hired a surveyor who determined that the
neighbor’s existing fence is 6” on her property. Furthermore the survey shows that her fence is
6” in from the property line, making the three newly installed 8’ high cedar panels – which are
12” from her fence – only 6”-9” from the property line. She also described a letter written by a
real estate agent she retained to assess her property value indicating that the fence lowers her
property value.
Chairman Hughes explained that the property values argument was considered during the
original request. He then asked the Building and Planning Director whether Ms. Kmiec had
disclosed the location discrepancy with Code Enforcement. Mrs. Cherubino confirmed that code
measured the fence height and distance; however the exact property line dispute can only be
resolved as a civil matter since the City lacks any definitive legal description of property
boundaries and the neighbor could dispute survey findings with their own survey. Chairman
Hughes added that the Zoning Board can not mediate property line or neighborhood disputes as
its only purpose is considering variances from the zoning code.
Councilman Roger Ceccucci commented that he is against fence variances. He is concerned that
it will prompt other neighbors to request fence variances. Chairman Hughes pointed out that the
time to speak in favor or against a variance is during the variance proceeding, not at the
consideration of a rehearing.
Member Koniowka moved to approve the rehearing request. However, since no other board
members seconded the motion the rehearing request failed.
CONSIDERATION OF A USE VARIANCE FOR OVERNIGHT TRAINING AT 244
ONTARIO STREET
Architect Dan Sanders represented owner Dr. Vrao Volenti in a request to convert a former
medical office buildings into a training school with overnight accommodations for students on
the second floor. The building contains a Samaritan Lab, but is 90% vacant at this time leaving
3500 sq ft on the first floor and 3800 on the second floor. Mr. Sanders suggests that the limited
availability of parking – the lot contains 14 spaces – which is too few for the size of the building
and any proposed or permitted use, precludes permitted uses in the building. At the same time
Mr. Sanders suggested that the proposed use would negate a need for parking spaces since the
participants would arrive by public transportation from out of town.
Mr. Sanders also explained that the applicant scaled back the proposal to three rooms with two
beds and one single room for the instructor. In addition the applicant will keep offices on the
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first floor and in one quadrant of the second floor. Mr. Sanders explained that the applicant has
had difficulty marketing the property to doctors or hospitals, so he would consider other
professional offices such as lawyers, accountants or other professionals.
Vice Chairman Houle asked how many doctors’ offices would fit in the space. Dr. Voleti
explained that the building could accommodate one to two doctors’ offices. Dr. Patel spoke on
the applicant’s behalf and as a former part-owner of the building. The doctors in the building
took ownership because the mortgage wasn’t paid at the time but has since been satisfied. Many
of the physicians retired, while others passed away and yet others relocated practices.
Meanwhile, despite efforts to market to hospitals and doctors, code violations as well as the size
of the building deterred the local hospitals from investing in the building for satellite offices.
Therefore the doctors who owned the property transferred title to the Indo-American Senior
Citizens Care Foundation, a non profit created by Dr. Voleti. He avers that the proposed training
center would bring activity to the building. In fact, the applicant prefers the overnight
accommodations so someone can watch the building.
Second Ward Councilman Fred Turcotte spoke against the proposal, citing the vagueness of the
proposal. He is also opposed to the idea that the owner cannot make a permitted use of the
property, pointing out it appears the applicant is more focused on making it tax exempt than on
repairing or occupying the structure. Fourth Ward Councilwoman Diane Nolin also spoke
against the proposal, pointing out that the variance would stay with the property, not this
particular proposal. Dormitory or transient dwelling uses are not permitted in the commercial
district. Neither are educational facilities. Yet the presence of this proposed training academy
would likely make it more difficult to market to permissible uses.
Chairman Hughes explained that uses variances standards are significant – requiring proof that
the owner cannot make any other permissible economic use of the property. He pointed out the
applicant did not submit any economic justification including expenses and income. He
questioned the cost of needed repairs to bring the building to code. Dr. Voleti suggested
$100,000 for new roofing, siding and interior work. Chairman Hughes commented that the
proposed work sounded more like $200,000. Would the asking price support the current
conditions of the property including needed repairs? Why wouldn’t the applicant invest that
money to make a permitted use of the building rather than this training academy?
Both Chairman Hughes and Member Koniowka asked who would run the training center. How
did they find this opportunity? Dr. Voleti personally knows Surya Salupa who lives and works
in NYC and incorporated the SAI Foundation, a group financed by a separate corporation. Dr.
Voleti called Mr. Salupa to answer questions. The SAI Foundation helps create employment
opportunities for people in need. Students would arrive by train to participate in computer
training. In five years the Foundation and applicant would build another facility in East
Greenbush. Board members expressed concern that the variance would run with the building
and the proposed use is short term.
Mr. Sanders averred that the lack of parking deters potential tenants. However Chairman
Hughes stated that an area variance for parking is an easier standard to overcome than the use
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variance. Furthermore, the Chairman recommended opening or marketing the site as a daycare
site since parents could use the municipal lot for pick-up and only a few employees would be on-
site all day.
Vice Chairman Houle questioned whether the applicant would consider running the academy
without the overnight accommodations. Dr. Patel agreed that he could house the students in his
motel on Central Avenue. Member Koniowka asked is Dr. Patel owns the Skylane or Monte
Carlo, which the doctor denied. When asked which motel Dr. Patel offered both the Comfort Inn
and Days Inn by the airport.
Finally, the Board questioned the specifics of the computer training academy. Dr. Voleti
claimed to have sent details to the Building and Planning Director. However the only
documentation was a vague description for a certificate of incorporation. Chairman Hughes
questioned the graduation rate and the specific computer training provided by the academy. He
also questioned who pays the tuition and how much it cost to provide training to a student. For
the amount of capital needed to bring the building to code and install a computer lab wouldn’t it
be easier to create the facility where it’s permitted by zoning? Member Koniowka asked the age
of students as well as from where these students would travel to Cohoes.
Dr. Voleti phoned Mr. Salupa to answer questions. Mr. Salupa explained that another
corporation pays for the program. First he indicated students would come from NYC, then
within 100 mile radius, then from Kingston. The program lasts two weeks and is arranged with
the State although the applicants did not provide any proof of the state’s involvement in the
program. He described the students as 35-40 year olds who earned a master’s degree, whereas
earlier in the application process he described students as unemployed and in need of
employment computer training. Vice Chairman Houle questioned the need for another program
when the area is saturated with educational institutions whose existing facilities could be used for
such a program. Mr. Salupa countered that these are not college courses, and the program is free
unlike college courses. However he did not specify the content of the courses. Vice Chairman
Houle clarified that less capital would be required to establish the program where facilities are
available – such as at a college. Vice Chairman Houle also explained that each of these
questions would have to be addressed – and clearly.
As a result of the proposal’s vagueness and failure to prove an inability to make any other
permissible economic use of the property, Member Koniowka moved to deny the variance.
Member Baranski seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Randy Koniowka X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch ABSENT
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Member Koniowka moved to adjourn at 8:15 PM seconded by Vice Chairman Houle. The
motion passed unanimously.
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