Planning Commission
Regular MeetingDerby, KS · February 7, 2013
Minutes
CITY OF DERBY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
February 7, 2013 6:30 PM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Josh Kippenberger, Gunter Hansen, Sue Wright, Doug
Chambers, Kelly Farber, Keith Volz, Pat Baer, Jack Hezlep, Tasha Brackeen, Choose an
item., Choose an item.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Shawn Riley
CITY STAFF PRESENT: Cody Bird, City Planner, Marcia Hartman, Recording Secretary
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES:
Minutes of Thursday, January 03, 2013 Planning Commission Meeting
MOTION: Gunter Hansen
SECOND: Doug Chambers
VOTE: 8-0-1; Josh Kippenberger abstained
PUBLIC FORUM OPENED
PUBLIC FORUM CLOSED
MEETING DATE: February 7, 2013
AGENDA ITEM NO: 1
CASE DESCRIPTION: Zone Change – The Oaks and The Oaks Second (R-1 to R-3)
WITHDRAWN. A new request will be submitted by the
applicant.
DISCUSSION:
Cody Bird – clarified for the record that the original zone change for The Oaks Addition
had been withdrawn. The developer is looking at additional detail to include in the formal
request to be resubmitted. Letters have been sent to the notification area regarding the
withdrawal.
AGENDA ITEM NO: 2
CASE DESCRIPTION: Amendment to Article 6, Section 602 of the Derby Zoning
Ordinance
APPLICANT: City of Derby
REASON FOR REQUEST: Update the Ordinance to Address a Conflict with State
Law pertaining to Sale of Firearms and Ammunition
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BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
It has recently come to Staff’s attention that paragraph 11 of Section 602(D) of
Derby’s Zoning Regulations is preempted by State Law.
o K.S.A. 12-16,124 previously allowed cities broad discretion in the
regulation of firearms sales.
o 2007 House Bill 2528 was passed by the Kansas Legislature and
subsequently incorporated into law. The law amended K.S.A.
12-16,124 to repeal the language which previously exempted city zoning
measures regulating firearms sales.
o The amended K.S.A. 12-16,124(a) now provides a broad preemption
which clearly demonstrates legislative intent to remove the authority of
cities to regulate firearms licensees through zoning regulations.
K.S.A. 12-16,124(a) now states that no city or county shall adopt regulations or
take any administrative action governing the purchase, transfer, ownership,
storage or transporting of firearms or ammunition. Furthermore, the statute
states that any such regulation adopted prior to the effective date of the statute
shall be null and void.
STAFF COMMENTS:
State Attorney General, Derek Schmidt wrote a legal opinion in January 2012,
which addressed a nearly identical Rose Hill, KS zoning regulation prohibiting
sale of firearms and ammunition as a home occupation. The opinion
concluded that the 2007 amendment preempted Rose Hill’s regulation.
The Derby City Attorney has advised that the Derby zoning regulation
prohibiting the sale of firearms and ammunition as a home occupation be
repealed.
RECOMMENDATION:
Move to approve the amendment to Section 602 of Article 6 of the Derby Zoning
Ordinance and forward the recommendation to City Council for consideration.
Attachments: Proposed amendment to Section 602
K.S.A. 12-16,124
Cody Bird – began with an explanation of State Law K.S.A 12-16,124(a), which affects
Derby’s Zoning Ordinance pertaining to the sale of firearms and ammunition.
Kelly Farber – asked what the State and Federal Law was in regard to firearm sales.
Cody Bird – replied that anyone who desires to deal firearms and ammunition is required
to have a Federal Firearms License (FFL).
Jack Hezlep – asked when the prohibition of firearms sales was originally included in the
Zoning Ordinance.
Cody Bird – replied that he had not reviewed our records to identify when the prohibition
was added. He clarified that at the time it was added, State Law did not preempt local
governments’ authority to enact regulations pertaining to firearms.
Gunter Hansen – asked what is the interaction between Local, State and Federal
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regulations pertaining to firearms.
Cody Bird – explained that the State Law preempts our local ordinance prohibiting
firearms sales as a home occupation, and that all premises where firearms will be sold
are required to be inspected and licensed according to Federal regulations.
MOTION: Jack Hezlep
SECOND: Pat Baer and Tasha Brackeen
VOTE: 8-1-0; Josh Kippenberger opposed
AGENDA ITEM NO: 3
CASE DESCRIPTION: Annual Review of Zoning Ordinance
REASON FOR REQUEST: General editing, language changes, word inclusions
and clarifications, establishing & defining standards.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
General – Clean up any and all typos, grammar mistakes and formatting concerns
General – Change all references of “Community Development” to “Planning &
Engineering” department
General – Change all references of “Community Development Director” to appropriate
position titles
General – Check and update all references to other sections to ensure accuracy
Article 3 – Section 305(F) “Site Plan Requirements” – Add paragraph 11 to include “Other
site information as required at the time of application.”
Article 4 – Sections 415 & 416 – Combine residential PUD and non-residential PUD into
one PUD which includes mixed uses and streamline the process
Article 5 – Section 500(A) – Consider modifying dimensions of parking spaces/access
aisles
Article 5 – Section 500(A)(6) – Paving of off-street parking “concrete” to “poured in place
concrete”
Article 6 – Section 601; Add language for food/snowcone vendors (Provide which zoning
districts to allow; include limitations for temporary signs; and establish length of
permit)
Article 7 – Section 705(C)(2) – Add paragraph (h) to establish timeframe for pick-
up/removal of political signs (example: 7 days after election)
Article 7 – Consider establishing standards and height regulations for inflatable/animated
signs
Article 7 – Establish clear guidelines for illumination levels for LED and illuminated signs
Article 7 – Establish new guidelines to address converting existing billboards to be
upgraded to LED
Article 11 – Section 1103; Change ¾ majority of “governing body” to “City Council” for
Council vote to override Planning Commission recommendation following a
valid petition
Appendix 3 – Update ADA parking schedule
Appendix 4 – Consider incorporating elements of CPTED (Crime Prevention Through
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Environmental Design) to Design Standards
DISCUSSION:
Cody Bird – explained that the Zoning Ordinance needed some general clean-up and
asked for guidance from the Planning Commission.
Cody Bird – began with Article 3, Section 305(F) Site Plan Requirements; explaining that
Staff is creating a check list of all the important information needed for Site Plan Review,
including some items that may be site specific and that are not listed in the Ordinance. A
reference to the checklist would be added to the Ordinance.
Cody Bird – continued with Article 4, Section 415 & 416, combining residential PUD and
non-residential PUD in to one PUD. He indicated that there was a desire to reduce the
number of public hearings from 2 to 1. Cody asked for suggestions from the Planning
Commission, mentioning that as items are completed over the year, the Planning
Commission will have another opportunity to review the drafted language.
Kelly Farber – asked for clarification on those that are currently separated and have a
mixed use.
Cody Bird – responded by saying they are platted as two different p arcels.
Cody Bird – moved to the next item, Article 5, Section 500(A), parking spaces. Currently
regulations require the minimum for parking spaces to be 9 feet by 19 feet, though some
exceptions have been made in the past to allow 9 feet by 18 feet. Eighteen feet is a
generally excepted norm.
Kelly Farber – indicated that the parking space issue has been addressed frequently ; he
asked if there was a rule that determines how much width must be between 2 rows of
stalls.
Cody Bird – answered that for 2-way circulation, 24 feet is required between the ends of
the stripes, providing 12 feet of travel for each direction. It is reduced for 1-way travel,
depending on the angle of the spaces.
Kelly Farber – asked if 24 foot was standard.
Cody Bird – replied yes. However, for fire access aisle, the fire code requires 26 feet.
Kelly Farber – noted that his concern was for how much room was available to back out
of a parking space.
Josh Kippenberger – asked what the standard in other communities in the area was for
parking spaces.
Pat Baer – answered that 18 foot is the typical, with a minimum of a 24 foot lane with
perpendicular parking, and 26 foot for fire lanes is standard. An 18 foot stall is adequate
for most people. He indicated his opinion/preference that 18 foot parking stalls with 24
foot lanes are adequate.
Keith Volz – felt the Zoning Ordinance did not need to address the 26 foot fire lane since
the fire code already addresses this.
Pat Baer – agreed.
Cody Bird – addressed the next item, Article 6, Section 601, food/snow cone vendors.
He explained that staff would create more specific guidelines for signs and permits.
Jack Hezlep – asked if there were regulations for vendors who are employees of the
merchants.
Cody Bird – replied that we don’t have specific guidelines for that type of use.
Kelly Farber – asked if the suggested regulations for vendor signs would address
placement, mobile unit signs, or both.
Cody Bird – answered that it could be both. He said currently vendors have used 3-4
signs, when the temporary use permit allows only 2. There is not an opposition to
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advertising; however there needs to be a uniform standard to enforce fairly.
Kelly Farber – asked if the current sign code applies to vendors.
Cody Bird – answered that in some instances, we have applied the temporary use
guidelines; however, food vendors are not specifically addressed in the Ordinance, and
therefore there has been some confusion which could be cleared up.
Josh Kippenberger – asked what prompted this action.
Cody Bird – replied that Code Enforcement has asked for clearer guidelines.
Cody Bird – addressed Article 5, Section 500(A)(6). Due to previous controversy of
concrete material, staff recommends changing the wording to clarify crushed versus
poured concrete, and try to eliminate the need for interpretation on something that
should be very routine.
Cody Bird – addressed Article 7, Section 705(C)(2), timeframe for political signs.
Currently there is no time line for removal of political signs; they are exempt from permit
guidelines. Staff suggested 7 days.
Cody Bird – continued discussing sign guidelines, such as height regulations for
inflatable/animated signs. One example was a 30 foot tall inflatable wolf placed at the
corner of James Street and Rock Road.
Commission members - posed some questions about this particular sign and whether it
was a safety hazard or whether there were complaints by residents.
Cody Bird – answered that there was not a safety concern, nor resident complaints.
Kelly Farber – asked about regulations on other types of inflatables, flags, or signs that
attract attention and what the definition is of “wavy” signs.
Cody Bird – answered that code indicates that if this type of sign does not display
commercial content, businesses can have as many as they want (streamers, banners,
flags). If it says the content of the business, then it becomes a commercial sign and they
are allowed 2 signs (i.e. - “fireworks stands”).
Kelly Farber – felt that regulating the number was more important than the size.
Cody Bird - mentioned that code does not regulate emblems, flags, streamers and
decorations because the courts have upheld that non-commercial decorations are
protected by the First Amendment under the freedom of speech clause. The intent of the
city is not to overregulate the type of signs, rather promote traffic safety and aesthetic
values in the city. Cody offered that the city should steer clear of regulation; however,
more research could be done to look at options.
Sue Wright - suggested making general statements for Code Enforcement to ensure
safety, regarding the animated signs.
Cody Bird – replied that if signs were placed in a vision triangle and thus limiting the site
distance of vehicles, the signs would be required to be relocated or removed.
Josh Kippenberger – asked if sign regulation s could be tied to regulation of an event.
Cody Bird – indicated two concerns, duration of event and the size.
Kelly Farber – mentioned that some events could be unnecessarily prolonged, i.e. –
going out of business event.
Jack Hezlep – pointed out two different issues, one for special events, and one for
permanent businesses.
Keith Volz – asked if staff could consider other communities’ regulation.
Planning Commission members - discussed back and forth the merits of removing sign
wording once a business closed and options of keeping aesthetics pleasing and safe to
the community.
Cody Bird – indicated that Article 7 does not currently have guidelines establishing
illumination levels for LED and illuminated signs. He indicated that it would be wise to
include language to address animation, brightness and other LED alternatives. He
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continued to discuss guidelines for current billboards that need replaced and whether
illuminated signs could replace the legal non-conforming signs.
Kelly Farber & Jack Hezlep asked for some examples from other communities.
Cody Bird – responded that other communities would be considered in writing the
regulations for illuminated signs.
Cody Bird – asked the Planning Commission members if they had any thoughts to
address the non-conforming billboard signs and the upgrade to LED signs.
Doug Chambers – asked what is making them non-conforming.
Cody Bird – re plied that billboards existing either prior to the adoption of the current
regulations or prior to annexation into the City are allowed to remain, though because
they do not comply with current regulations, they are considered non-conforming.
Cody Bird – explained that upgrading a billboard to an LED display was not changing the
use, but rather changing the face to an electronic message center. Such an upgrade
would increase the intensity of that use.
Gunter Hansen – asked for clarification of whether the billboards are in violation.
Cody Bird – answered that they are non-conforming, but they are legal non-conforming
because they were constructed legally under the applicable guidelines at that time.
Planning Commission members - discussed back and forth the scope of the sign style if
changed from billboard to LED and how the code would apply to new LED signs.
Cody Bird – redirected to explain that if a new LED billboard for displaying multiple
messages were erected, it would be a billboard sign and an off-premise advertising sign,
both of which are prohibited. However, although billboards and off-premise advertising
are prohibited, if such a sign existed prior to the current regulations, then they are
allowed to continue to exist as non-conforming uses. Derby Zoning Ordinance states that
any structural modifications to a non-conforming use must be brought into full
compliance with the current regulations, and thus, any changes or upgrades to the
billboard sign would not be allowed.
Cody - continued by asking if the Commission was in favor of allowing existing billboards
to be replaced by LED boards.
Keith Volz – said that these billboards are already in violation and upgrades would need
to comply.
Kelly Farber – added further clarification to the purpose of the ordinance by saying that if
the Commission was in favor of having billboards, then it would make sense to upgrade
to LED. However, the Commission is not in favor of the billboards and would like the
language to reflect that billboards cannot be upgraded, and any modification and all new
signs would need to conform to current regulations.
Cody Bird – moved to the next item, Article 11, Section 1103, to change the wording of “
Governing Body” to “City Council” where appropriate to eliminate confusion between the
roles of the Planning Commission and the City Council.
Cody Bird – addressed Appendix 3, ADA parking schedule, saying our current language
needs to be updated to the current standard of one van accessible stall per every six
accessible parking spaces, rather than one per every eight accessible parking spaces.
Cody Bird – talked about Appendix 4, incorporating elements of Crime Prevention
Through Environmental Design into the design standards of the Ordinance. Examples
could include consideration for not creating spaces that would conceal crimes and
criminal activities. Efforts would be made to coordinate CPTED concepts with the Derby
Police Department and looking at examples from other communities. A draft would be
presented to the Planning Commission for consideration.
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AGENDA ITEM NO: 4
CASE DESCRIPTION: Annual Review of Subdivision Regulations
REASON FOR REQUEST: Proposed amendments to Subdivision Regulations
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
Article 6 – Section 602(K) “Streets” – Add reference to new Appendix One
Article 6 – Section 603 “Blocks” – Add new subsection (D) “Reserves” and include
requirement to place high pressure gas lines in reserves instead of pipeline easements
through platted lots
Appendix One – Create list of retired street names and provide standards for addressing
within the city
DISCUSSION:
Cody Bird – addressed Article 6, Section 603 and asked if Planning Commission
members had any comments or concerns regarding placing high pressure gas lines in
reserves instead of allowing them to be placed in easements.
Planning Commission – no comments.
Cody Bird – addressed the last item and explained that Derby does not have specific
street naming standards, and that it would be beneficial to have established guidelines for
both street designations and for street names. A list of over-used street names would be
created as a reference to be reviewed during Site Plan Review. Street names which are
over-used, such as “wood,” “brook,” and “tree” could be retired. Sedgwick County and
Wichita currently use a similar method to retire repeated street names.
MOTION TO ADJOURN: Kelly Farber moved to adjourn
SECOND: Keith Volz
VOTE: 9-0-0
Meeting adjourned at 8:04 PM
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Agenda
CITY OF DERBY
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MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
February 7, 2013
6:30 PM
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CALL MEETING TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES: Planning Commission Meeting of January 3, 2013.
PUBLIC FORUM
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Zone Change – The Oaks and The Oaks Second (R-1 to R-3) – WITHDRAWN
A new request will be submitted by the applicant
2. Amendment – Section 602(D); repealing paragraph 11, currently prohibiting sales
of firearms and ammunition as a home occupation
3. Annual Review of Zoning Ordinance
4. Annual Review of Subdivision Regulations
ADJOURN
NEXT CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES:
February 12 Keith Volz
February 26 Sue Wright
March 12 Patrick Baer
March 26 Tasha Brackeen
April 9 Doug Chambers
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