Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingDripping Springs, TX · December 18, 2017
Minutes
CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS, TEXAS
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
December 18, 2017
A meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Dripping Springs, Texas, was held on
Tuesday, December 18, 2017 at 6:30 P.M. at City Hall, 511 Mercer Street, Dripping Springs, Texas.
Present: Commission Members City Staff/Appointed Officials
Mim James – Chair Michelle Fischer – City Administrator
James Martin – Vice Chair Anjali Naini – Planning Consultant
John McIntosh Rick Coneway – City Engineer
Kim Hubbard Megan Will – City Planner
Evelyn Strong Katie Jordan – Planning Assistant
Erich Oswald Chad Gilpin – City Engineer
Keenan Smith – Architectural Design Consultant
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL at 6:30 p.m.
With a quorum of the commission members present, Chairman Mim James called the Regular Meeting to
order at 6:32p.m. followed by the pledge of allegiance led by Kim Hubbard. It is noted that Commissioner
Michael Lavengco was absent for this meeting.
II. Pledge of Allegiance.
III. PRESENTATION OF CITIZENS
There were no comments received from the public.
A. Announcement Regarding Public Comment Period for the City of Dripping Springs Draft Mobile
Food Vendor Ordinance Amendments, Anjali Naini, Consulting City Planner
The City would like to announce that the draft Mobile Food Vendor Ordinance amendments will be
posted on the City website and Facebook to be available for public inspection and comment. The initial
public comment period is open until January 12, 2018. The City highly encourages citizens to provide
comments on the draft Ordinance amendments. Here is a timeline of what the City is trying to achieve
with the Mobile Food Vendor Ordinance amendments.
Key Dates:
December 12, 2017 – First draft posted for public comment
January 3, 2018 – Historic Preservation Commission Meeting: public hearing and consideration
January 12, 2018 – Close of initial public comment period
January 23, 2018 – Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting: public hearing and consideration
February 13, 2018 – City Council Meeting: public hearing and consideration
IV. MINUTES
Consideration and Possible Action On:
A. Approval of Minutes for October 24, 2017 Regular Commission Meeting.
No action was taken on this item. The agenda should have listed the approval for the November 27th
, 2017 P&Z Meeting Minutes rather than October. They will defer approval of the minutes until the
next meeting.
V. BUSINESS
Discussion and Possible Action on Zoning, Conditional Use Permits, Subdivision, Site Development, Signage,
Variances, Special Exceptions, Waivers and other matters:
A. TIRZ Town Center Preliminary Concept Plan
1. Presentation (Keenan Smith) Keenan gave an overview of the concept plan for the Tax
Increment Reinvestment Zones #1 & #2. Its purpose is to promote economic development, and
planning critical infrastructure to support quality development within the central part of the city.
Several Priority Projects have been identified by the TIRZ Board, including the improvement of
Old Fitzhugh Road, future planning for the Triangle tract at the east end of Mercer Street, and
the planning and potential development of a Town Center Project on properties currently owned
and occupied by the City and the Dripping Springs Independent School District at the western
end of Mercer Street. The Preliminary Concept Plan is available for viewing at City Hall and on
the City’s website.
2. Public Hearing
Charlie Busby: encourages commission to support the concept plan to help tax payers save money
and can potentially alleviate traffic in the area.
Richard Bulks: With regards to the mention of “shared space”, are non-profit organizations
permitted to use these facilities?
Keenan Smith: the Stakeholders want this space to be used as a conference center for Dripping
Springs school boards, the City, the library and Hays County.
3. Preliminary Concept Plan
James Martin made a motion to approve the preliminary concept plan per staff’s
recommendation. Erich Oswald seconded the motion. The motion carries unanimously
with 6 Ayes, 0 Nayes.
B. Sign Variance Request to allow Directional Signage to Exceed the Maximum Signable Area
Allowed, Dripping Springs United Methodist Church, located at 28900 Ranch Road 12,
Dripping Springs, Randy Voorheis, Applicant Representative
1. Presentation None
2. Staff Report (Michelle Fischer) The Planned Development District#3 Agreement
includes signage provisions but not address directional signs. Therefore, directional
signs on the property are to comply with Chapter 26 of the City’s Sign Ordinance. The
Dripping Springs United Methodist Church campus needs effective directional signs
for many reasons: there are multiple buildings; the main church building entrance is at
the rear of the property; various community organizations use church facilities; and
many visitors not familiar with the campus visit. DSUMC requests a variance to allow
directional signs with maximum dimensions of 6’ x 4’. 3 sf of sign area is not large
enough to display the needed information. The proposed signs will predominantly have
earth tone colors and posts. DSUMC proposes seven directional signs. Most of these
signs will not be visible from RR12. The sign variance request meets several criteria for
granting variances. The larger directional signs are needed due to the large number of
visitors to the campus, the configuration of the buildings, and the number of buildings,
which warrant a lot of information to be conveyed on the directional signs. Most of the
signs will not be visible from RR12. Staff recommends approval of the variance
request.
3. Public Hearing No comments were made
4. Variance Request to allow directional signage to exceed the maximum signable area
allowed. James Martin made a motion to approve the requested variances for the
DSUMC per staff’s recommendation. Kim Hubbard seconded the motion. The motion
carried unanimously with a vote of 6 Ayes and 0 Nayes, approving the motion.
C. ZA2017-0002: Zoning Amendment Ordinance No. 1220152: An Ordinance of the City of
Dripping Springs, TX, Rezoning a Tract of Land Totaling 16.0118 Acres Located at 23000 W
FM 150, Dripping Springs, TX from (AG) to (SF-2), and Described as Follows: 16.0018 Acres
out of the Thomas R. Jackson League, Abstract No.9, Applicant, Dan Druck
1. Presentation (Dan Druck) Available to answer questions
2. Staff Report (Anjali Naini) Requested action is to rezone the property from AG to SF-2.
The subject property was voluntarily annexed into the city limits on October 10, 2017.
Upon annexation, properties are automatically zoned AG until the property owner or City
initiates the rezoning process. Staff recommends approval of the requested zoning
amendment.
3. Public Hearing No comments were made
4. Ordinance No.1220.152 James Martin made a motion to approve the requested zoning
amendment from Ag to SF-2 per staff’s recommendation. John McIntosh seconded the motion.
The motion carries unanimously with 6 Ayes, 0 Nayes.
D. SUB2017: Charro Vista Subdivision. A Preliminary Plat for a 160091 Acre Property Located at
23000 W FM 150, Dripping Springs, Texas (Thomas R. Jackson League, Abstract No.9),
Applicant: Dan Druck, Charro Vista, LLC
1. Presentation None
2. Staff Report (Anjali Naini) Staff recommends to approve the preliminary plat conditional
upon any additions or alterations to the engineering plans as deemed necessary by the City
Engineer, as needed, to ensure the safe, efficient and proper construction of public
improvements within the subdivision and adequate response to all comments. Additionally,
per City agenda policy, the applicant must submit a revised set of plans at least seven days
prior to the January 9th, 2018 City Council meeting, which means the deadline is January 2nd,
2018. If revised plans are not submitted by that date, staff will request postponing
consideration by City Council until February 13, 2018.
3. Parks & Recreation Commission Report The Parkland Dedication Plan for Charro Vista
Subdivision was considered at the November 12, 2017 Parks and Recreation Commission
meeting. The commission recommended that the future proposed trail along Oak Springs
Drive be continued down to FM 150 in lieu of connecting to the west side of the Charro
Vista Subdivision. Therefore the Parkland Dedication Plan as presented is adequate. Brent
Luck prepared a report and recommended that the Parkland Dedication Plan be discussed
with consideration and deliberation of the items outlined in the meeting and voted for
approval.
4. Public Hearing No comments were made
5. Parkland Dedication The information outlined in the Parkland Dedication/Trail Easement &
Construction report was compiled to address the Trail Easement and construction of such as
it relates to the ordinance requirement to provide Parkland dedication and/or a cash payment
in lieu of dedicated parkland. Based on the discussions and conclusions reached at the
December 11, 2017 meeting with the Parks and Recreation Department, the applicant
believes that the information it contains reflects a mutually accepted strategy.
James Marin made a motion to approve parkland dedication per Brent Luck’s
recommendation. Erich Oswald seconded the motion. The motion carries unanimously with
6 Ayes, 0 Nayes.
6. Preliminary Plat Mim James made a motion to approve the preliminary plat subject to
Anjali’s recommendation of the conditions mentioned. James Martin seconded the motion.
The motion carries unanimously with 6 Ayes, 0 Nayes.
E. Replat of Springlake Subdivision Lot 122-A3 and Lot 122-A4 a 3.21 acre tract located at 1804
Spring Valley Dr. Dripping Springs, TX 78620. Applicant Hugo Elizondo, P.E. Cuatro
Consultants LTD.
1. Presentation None
2. Staff Report (Megan Will) Staff recommends postponing until the 1/23/2018 Planning &
Zoning meeting, pending Hays County approval.
3. Public Hearing No comments were made
4. Replat James Martin made a motion to postpone taking action on this item until the
1/23/2018 Planning & Zoning meeting. Erich Oswald seconded the motion. The motion
carries unanimously with 6 Ayes, 0 Nayes.
F. Replat of Lot 9, Oakridge Park Section 5 at Kinnicinik, Establishing Lot 9A, A 15.83 acre lot at
9900 Darden Hill Road, Dripping Springs, TX. Applicant, Troy Moore, PE M3 Engineering, LLC
Evelyn Strong recused herself from voting on this agenda item
1. Presentation (Troy Moore, P.E.) gave a brief presentation on the purpose of the replat
2. Staff Report (Chad Gilpin, P.E.) This replat meets the requirements of the City’s
Subdivision Ordinance and staff recommends approval.
3. Public Hearing No public comments were made
4. Replat James Martin made a motion to approve the Replat per staff’s recommendation
pending receipt of the approval from Hays County. Kim Hubbard seconded the motion. The
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 Ayes and 0 Nayes, approving the motion.
G. Site Development Permit for Darden Hill Storage, 9900 Darden Hill Road, Dripping Springs,
TX. Applicant, Troy Moore, P.E. M3 Engineering, LLC.
Evelyn Strong recused herself from voting on this agenda item
1. Presentation (Steve Metcaff) Made a presentation with powerpoint on behalf of the applicant,
discussing the proposed project and some of it’s good qualities as follows: 24hr safety/policing
by on-site caretaker, high quality water system, providing a needed service to the area, reached
out to residing residents to engage on this subject, the use generates minimal traffic, etc.
2. Staff Report (Chad Gilpin, P.E.) Staff has reviewed the submittal and found the site
development plan to comply with relevant requirements in the documents referenced in the
staff report. Staff recommends approval of the site plan contingent upon approval of the
associated Replat of Lot 9, Oakridge Park Section 5 at Kinnicinik, Establishing Lot 9A, and
with the following revision: 1. Add a note to Site Development plans stating that the applicant
will comply with Lighting Ordinance.
3. Public Hearing
The following citizens spoke in opposition of the project:
John Pope: is the only neighbor in the 300’ buffer that has been sent the public notice in order
to be involved. Opposes this project because it an inappropriate use
Dan Tarrillion: Was not contacted by the developer and they live across the street from the site.
The variance for maximum cut and fill has not been processed nor reviewed per the public
comment letter (Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody)
Priscilla Wood: spoke at the previous meeting with regard to this topic. Believes that the
developer actively saught an affluent area not because of a “real need for this service”. Maxing
out impervious cover is a major concern. The City should follow through to make sure that
water quality is not negatively impacted if and when the site is developed
Mark Wood: This is not an environmentally conscious development. Not appropriate for this
residential area. It weakens property values. Could set a bad example for potential similar
development
Scott Clark: Did not receive any reassurance from organization that the developer would
respect any of the neighbor’s requests. His neighbor, Shannon Rizzo has an organic farm. The
developer plans to use fertilizer which will affect her crops and her business. “Private property
rights are not absolute!”
Rob Newmann: Has an environmental study been conducted on that site? If not, they would
like the developer to consider it. The residents were told that they would be environmentally
conscious and try to preserve some wildlife and plantlife since there are protected species in the
area
Tim Wilkens: Concerned about voter rights. Many surrounding residential neighbors wants the
developer to put some concessions to use. Wants them to respect the neighbors’ wishes
Tim Stansbury: Abstained
Evelyn Strong: Hopes that the Commission holds this development to high standards to
promote environmental responsibility and sustainability by making the condition on any
variance request for this project she would ask that they honor the commitment to the dark
skies and agree not to advertise on the billboards adjacent to the project site
Ron Scott Adams: Will there be any water hook-ups for limited washing or cleaning for
equipment? He wants assurance that chemicals won’t be used on-site or affect their neighbors
land
Shannon Rizzo: Concerned about the motion sensor lighting. There are wild animals that can
set it off and wants to know how residents are going to be protected from that.
Did not state their name: Stated an emotional appeal for the Commission to do the right thing
and to protect the hill country
4. Site Development Permit James Martin made a motion to consider. Mim James seconded the
motion.
James asked Chad to address the comments received on 12/18/17 by Cliff Ernst.
Chad:
No Variance is required for the cut & fill since the site plan is in compliance with City’s
regulations
The applicant used a rainwater harvesting credit towards their impervious cover calculations
which is acceptable per Article 22.05 Water Quality Protection of the City’s Code of
Ordinances
Operating hours will be 5am until 10pm, with the exception of boat and RV access
The applicant will consider the condition of the design for the motion-censored lighting, the
developer will address this issue on the site development permit
Wash stations for boats and RV’s is not included in the design
No toxic chemicals are allowed on the site per the lease agreement
Five on-site fire hydrants are required with fire walls and a sprinkler system and the site plan
has been approved by the fire marshal at ESD6
James Martin made a motion to approve contingent upon the approval of the associated Replat
and a note to the site plan stating that they will comply with the outdoor lighting ordinance and
a second note that the applicant will apply the latest technology commercially available for the
motion-censor lighting to prevent activation from minor movements and as long as this facility
operates that the owner agrees that there be no washing facilities on this site and no entities
allowed to conduct business on the premises. Mim James seconded the motion. The motion
carried unanimously with 5 Ayes, 0 nayes.
H. CUP2017-0002: Conditional Use Permit Application for an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU)
Located at 1501 Woods Loop, Dripping Springs, TX 78620, Applicant, Duel Tarrant.
1. Presentation (Duel Tarrant) None
2. Staff Report (Megan Will) Staff recommends to postpone consideration of the CUP request to
the 1/23/2018 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting. The City received a request from
the applicant to postpone consideration of the CUP application due to health issues.
3. Public Hearing No comments were made
4. Conditional Use Permit James Martin made a motion to postpone this agenda item until the
1/23/2018 P&Z Meeting per staffs recommendation. Erich Oswlad seconded the motion. The
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 Ayes and 0 Nayes.
I. CUP2017-0001: Conditional Use Permit Application for a Bar located at 28911 RR12, Dripping
Springs, TX 78620, Applicant, Jon Thompson
1. Presentation (Neil Stokes) Presented the concept for the proposed outdoor bar and food court.
He met with neighbors to discuss their concerns. Neil wants the flexibility to remain open until
midnight to take advantage of economic opportunities. Available to answer questions.
2. Staff Report (Megan Will) Staff recommends to approve but to include three conditions per the
staff report.
3. Public Hearing
Helen Elester: Has hosted meetings with concerned neighbors surrounding the property in
question. She asks the applicant to comply with their wishes opposes hours of operation.
Jim Langford: Concerned about the use of a bar so close to residents and on the public
highway. Concerned with hours of operation.
Ron Scott Adams: Appreciates local investment/businesses but is concerned about the bar use
due to the safety of surrounding residents and under lit roads.
Beth Barhman: Concerned with hours of operation
Chuck H: Concerned about hours of operation, and the bar use contradicts being a family
friendly oriented business.
Judith Hiller: Concerned about traffic navigating through Ranch Ridge
Richard Bolts: Road is not designed for added traffic, and concerned about vegetation being
conserved.
Karen Raymond: Road is not designed to support that additional traffic.
Gerald: Concerned about hours of operation and the potential traffic.
Mary Linton: Concerned about the hours of operation and noise nuisance that the bar will
create.
4. Conditional Use Permit James Martin made a motion to consider. Mim James seconded the
motion. James Martin wanted to make some clarifications with regards to the public’s
concerns, which was addressed by Neil Stokes. James Martin made a motion to approve the
CUP request for 28911 RR12 per the conditions in the staff report: 1) A prohibition on
speakers and amplified music, and a requirement that the decibel level remain below 85
decibels, which is the maximum decibels allowed in the Texas Pena Code, Title 9, Section
42.01 (c)(2). 2) A pedestrian connection be established with the approved mixed use
(commercial/residential) subdivision to the north. Erich Oswald seconded the motion. The
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 Ayes and 0 Nayes, approving the motion.
VI. Announcements.
A. Regular City Council Meeting, December 19, 2017, at 6:00 p.m.
B. Planning and Zoning Regular Meeting January 23, 2018, 6:30 p.m.
VI. Adjourn.
Adjourn Open Meeting
A motion to adjourn was made by James Martin, seconded by Mim James ending the
meeting at 9:52 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Katie Jordan Planning Assistant
These minutes were approved on the day of , 2017.
Agenda
City of Dripping Springs
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda
Monday, December 18, 2017 at 6:30 PM
City Hall, 511 Mercer Street, Dripping Springs, Texas
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL at 6:30 p.m.
Commission Members
Mim James - Chair James Martin - Vice Chair John McIntosh
Kim Hubbard Michael Lavengco Evelyn Strong
Erich Oswald
City Staff/Appointed Officials
City Administrator Michelle Fischer
Deputy City Administrator Ginger Faught
City Planner Megan Will
Director of Public Works Kyle Dannhaus
Planning Assistant Katie Jordan
Planning Consultant Anjali Naini
City Engineer Rick Coneway
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Ill. PRESENTATION OF CITIZENS
Floor open lo discussion on any subject. No action may be taken by law. Citizens wishing to
.\peak shall do so after being recognized hy the Chair. The Chair may establish a time limit
as necessary.
A. Announcement Regarding Public Comment Period for the City of Dripping Springs
Draft Mobile Food Vendor Ordinance Amendments, Anjali Naini, Consulling City
Planner
IV. MINUTES
Co11sideration a11d Possible Actio11 On:
A. Approval of the Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting minutes of
October 24, 2017
V. BUSINESS
Discussion and Possible Action on Zoning, Conditional Use Permits, Subdivision, Site
Development, Signage, Variances, Special 1'..xceplions, Waivers and other mallers:
A. TIRZ Town Center Preliminary Concept Plan
1. Presentation
2. Public Hearing
3. Preliminary Concept Plan
B. Sign Variance Request to allow Directional Signage to Exceed the Maximum
Signable Area Allowed, Dripping Springs United Methodist Church, located at
28900 Ranch Road 12, Dripping Springs, Randy Voorheis, Applicant Representative
1. Presentation
2. Sign Administrator's Report
3. Public Hearing
4. Variance Request to allow directional signage to exceed the maximum signable area
allowed
C. ZA2017-0002: Zoning Amendment Ordinance No. 1220.152: An Ordinance of the
City of Dripping Springs, Texas, Rezoning a Tract of Land Totaling 16.0118 Acres
Located at 23000 W FM 150, Dripping Springs, Texas from Agriculture (AG) to
Single-Family Residential, Moderate Density (SF-2), and Described as Follows:
16.0118 Acres out of the Thomas R. Jackson League, Abstract No. 9, Applicant, Dan
Dn1ck
I. Presentation
2. Staff Report (Anjali Naini)
3. Public Hearing
4. Ordinance No.1220.152
CI. SUB2017-0002: Charro Vista Subdivision. A Preliminary Plat for a 16.0091 Acre
Property Located at 23000 W FM 150, Dripping Springs, Texas (Thomas R. Jackson
League, Abstract No. 9), Applicant: Dan Dn1ck, Charro Vista, LLC
1. Presentation
2. Staff Report (Anjali Naini)
3. Parks & Recreation Commission Report
4. Public Hearing
5. Parkland Dedication
6. Preliminary Plat
CII. Replat of Springlake Subdivision Lot 122-A3 and Lot 122-A4 a 3.21 acre tract
located at 1804 Spring Valley Dr. Dripping Springs, TX 78620. Applicant, Hugo
Elizondo .Ir., P.E., Cuatro Consultants /]D.
I . Presentation
2. Staff Report (Megan Will)
3. Public Hearing
4. Replat
CIII. Replat of Lot 9, Oakridge Park Section 5 at Kinnicinik, Establishing Lot 9A, A 15.83
acre lot at 9900 Darden Hill Road, Dripping Springs, TX. Applicant, Troy Moore, PE
M3 Engineering, LLC'
1. Presentation (Troy Moore, PE)
2. Staff Report (Chad Gilpin, PE)
3. Public Hearing
4. Replat
CIV. Site Development Permit for Darden Hill Storage, 9900 Darden Hill Road, Dripping
Springs, TX. Applicant, Troy Moore, PE, M3 Engineering, /,J,C
1. Presentation (Troy Moore, PE)
2. Staff Report (Chad Gilpin, PE)
3. Public Hearing
4. Site Development Permit
CV. CUP2017-0002: Conditional Use Permit Application for an Accessory Dwelling Unit
(ADU) Located at 1501 Wood Loop, Dripping Springs, TX 78620, Applicant, Duel
Tarrant
I. Presentation (Duel T arrant)
2. Staff R eport (Megan W ill)
3 . Public Hearing
4. Conditional Use Permit
I. CUP2017-0001: Conditional Use Permit Application fo r a Bar Located at 28911 RR
12, Dripping Springs, TX 78620, Applicant: J on Thompson.
I. Presentation (Jon Thompson)
2. Staff Rep ort (Megan Will)
3. Public Hearing
4 . Conditional Use Permit
VI. ANNO UNCEMENTS
A. Regular City Counc il Meeting December 19, 20 17, 6:00 PM
B. P lanning & Zoning Regular Meeting January 23, 2017, 6:30 PM
Vll. ADJOURN
All agenda items listed above are eligihle for discussion and action unless otherwise .specifically noted. Notice is
posted in accordance 11·ith Chapter 551, Government Code, Vernon's Texas Codes, Annotated. I cert{{y that the above
notice ofmeeting was posted at City of Dripping Springs City Hall and website, 1vww.citvo[<,/rippingsprings. co111 on
the 15th day of Decemher 2017, at 12: 15 p.m..
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