Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · January 16, 2014
Minutes
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CITY OF ESCONDIDO
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
ESCONDIDO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
January 16, 2014
The meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at
3:30 p.m. by Chairman McQuead, in the City Council Chambers, 201 North
Broadway, Escondido, California.
Commissioners present: Commissioner Lee, Commissioner Rea (Late),
Commissioner Cherry, Commissioner Spann, and Chairman McQuead.
Commissioners absent: Commissioner Breitenfeld
Staff present: Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner; Paul Bingham, Assistant
Planner; and Dan Halverson, Assistant Planner.
MINUTES:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to approve the
minutes of the October 8, 2013 meeting. Motion carried. Ayes: Lee, Cherry,
Spann, and McQuead. Noes: None. Abstained: None. (4-0-0)
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS — None.
Public Hearings: None
CURRENT BUSINESS:
1. Review of proposed additions and changes to historic OEN
residence at 547 E. 6th Avenue.
Commissioner Spann recused himself from this item.
Mr. Bingham gave a presentation and noted that the property was a large 12,000
SF lot with frontage on both 6 th Avenue to the north and 7 th Avenue to the south.
The existing house is a 2-story craftsman built in 1910, and the applicant
proposes to demolish a storage structure behind the existing garage and build a
two-story addition with access to the existing garage roof deck. The proposal
also includes changes to the existing house: moving two west-side windows to
accommodate a third middle window being replaced with a French door and
some smaller east and west side windows on the second floor would also be
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relocated. Staff recommended approval with the new windows to match the
existing windows. Since the room additions would be behind the existing garage
and separate from the residence, staff felt they would not be very visible from
either street. All roofs would be composite shingles to match the south facing roof
on the house, and the colors/materials would be period appropriate as presented
in the exhibits.
Issues discussed during the presentation:
Chair McQuead asked about the window changes.
Commissioner Rea asked about change in roof lines, whether the addition is a
granny flat, proximity of the addition to the street, and materials for the roof.
Commissioner Cherry asked if the addition is connected to the house or separate
and about re-roofing the entire structure.
Mr. Bingham responded said there would be window changes on the first floor
affecting three windows on the west side. The two on the ends would be moved
outward and the one in the middle would be replaced by a French door to create
access to the existing covered patio being restored directly outside. He also
explained that: 1) there is no change in the roof line to the main house, 2) the
addition is not considered a second unit because there is no kitchen and would
be conditioned to record a deed restriction so stating, 3) the garage is a separate
more recent structure connected to the main house only above by the roof and
deck, and; 4) the addition is over 50 feet from the curb on 7 th Avenue and has an
existing shed in between to further hide its view.
The Applicant, Todd Martian, gave a brief presentation and discussed the roofing
alternatives.
Commissioner Rea had concerns that the office addition would be too much on
the property, that it appeared to be a second unit, and was too close to the
easterly neighbor; overall, wrong for the neighborhood.
Commissioner Lee preferred the addition to the old storage structure.
Commissioner Cherry and Chair McQuead had no issues with the project.
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Lee, seconded by Commissioner Cherry, to
approve staffs recommendation. Motion carried. Ayes: Lee, Cherry, and
McQuead. Noes: Rea. Abstained: Spann. (3-1-1)
2. Review of proposal to add a second unit to the property at 360 W. 7th
Avenue — Withdrawn
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3. Review of proposed addition to OEN residence at 227 E. 9 th Ave. -
Withdrawn
4. Review of proposed creek edge repairs at Daley Ranch adjacent to
four historic outbuildings.
Mr. Bingham gave a presentation about the failure of a portion of an existing
historic stone wall, which lines a creek bed, and protects four historic buildings
and a very large native oak tree on the property. The original mortared stone wall
cannot be re-built pursuant to CA Fish & Wildlife regulations, so a stone rip-rap
wall held together with mesh wire (gabions) is proposed as a repair to replace the
missing wall portion. All existing trees will remain. Staff recommended approval.
Discussion: Chair McQuead asked about the life of the wire and recommended
using local stone for the project.
ACTION: Unanimous consensus to approve the project with the added condition
to use the same color rock as the local area.
5. Consideration of request for reimbursement of building permit fees
at 412 & 420 E. 7th Ave.
Commissioner Rea recused herself from this item.
Mr. Bingham gave a presentation and noted that all necessary paperwork had
been filed and final inspections had been completed. He recommended approval
to give a reimbursement of $69.85 in permit fees to the applicant.
ACTION: Motion by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Cherry, to
approve staffs recommendation. Motion carried. Ayes: Lee, Spann, Cherry, and
McQuead. Noes: None. Abstained: Rea. (4-0-1)
6. Discuss proposed OEN standards for curbs and sidewalk repairs.
Mrs. Cherry gave a presentation/discussion on curb and sidewalk repair
summarizing discussions with public works staff and with commissioner Rea and
Wendy Barker during a field review of past repairs in the OEN.
Commissioner discussions ensued on various facets of the proposed standards.
Curbs — Commissioners felt a vertical face and not a slanted design was the
most appropriate to the district with the height to be more in keeping with modern
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vehicles, but voiced concerns over spacing of the score joint lines on the curb
tops. Staff was asked to look into this for the next meeting.
Sidewalks — The general consensus was wherever possible to incorporate the
24" by 24" square pattern most prevalent in the OEN and not to perpetuate odd
designs introduced in later repairs. They discussed the merits of finishing
stamped concrete vs. saw-cutting; the depth of stamp sufficient to make a
functioning weakened plane joint, and the need to first create a stamped
sidewalk section in the Public Works yard as an example of the quality of finish
work the Commission could expect. Commissioner Spann suggested adding a
note to the detail about stamping and then re-tooling or re-finishing the work if
needed to achieve the established acceptable quality level of finish.
Pedestrian Ramps — The Commission felt the standards proposed were
appropriate.
Driveways — The Commission discussed with staff the problems with various
designs present in the OEN. The Commission felt the elimination of narrow finger
islands in the parkway separating driveways in close proximity was appropriate.
Chairman McQuead suggested the consideration of a mix of the two standards
proposed where the radii were eliminated and the use of an angled curb be
incorporated.
Commissioner Cherry asked the other members what type of driveway they
preferred. The unanimous consensus was to let the type be dependent on the
level of traffic on the street with Option #1 to be used on slower moving streets
and Option #2 on faster moving streets.
Alley Aprons — The Commission felt the square pattern was not necessary,
except in the sidewalk portion crossing the alley, if any. The consensus seemed
to be that otherwise the standards discussed were appropriate.
Mrs. Cherry said staff will report back on their questions regarding curb top
scoring.
7. Discuss recent window and siding work at 522 E. 6th Ave (previous
case ADM 10-0125)
Mrs. Cherry gave an update on the work being done by the owner and noted that
the building inspector determined that the work was consistent with the approved
Certificate of Appropriateness.
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8. Status of Moir's replacement rock wall at 828 S. Broadway
Mrs. Cherry gave an update on a replacement rock wall. The owner's engineer is
completing discussions with the adjacent neighbor in order to finalize the
proposed remedy and submit to the City.
9. Discuss listing on the Local Register vintage signs identified by
subcommittee.
Mrs. Cherry noted the criteria and process for nominating vintage signs to the
Local Register.
Commissioner Rea's video presentation on signs was shown.
Chairman McQuead asked the subcommittee to pick a few signs for the
commission to consider at the February meeting.
10. Nominate a historic preservation volunteer for Mayor to acknowledge
at State of the City Address.
Mrs. Cherry noted the nomination deadline and that she had a nomination form
should the commission or a commissioner wish to nominate someone for
acknowledgment.
11. Discuss preparations for May's Historic Preservation Month:
nominations, magazine articles, etc.
Commissioner Cherry suggested nominating someone for the Mayor's award
who could then be the subject of a magazine article. Commission also discussed
presenting their own awards in May for vintage signs. The following signs were
nominated:
Escondido Square; Sees; Joor; Ice House; Wrangler BBQ; Masonic
Lodge; the star with addresses; Corner Market; the Wagon Wheel; and
Escondido Lumber.
12. Fee Discussion - Continued to next meeting.
13. CLG Grant Application - Continued to next meeting.
14. Mill Act Workshop Discussion - Continued to next meeting.
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Updates: continued to next meeting
Historic District - Rea
History Center — Lee
Commercial Historical — Spann, Cherry
Register/Survey/CLG Grants — Cherry (McQuead — alternate)
Daley Ranch — Lee, McQuead
Mills Act Monitoring Committee — Rea, and Spann
Historic Public Relations — Rea,
Endangered Structures/Vintage Signs —Rea and Cherry
Nominations for Historic Awards Program: continued to next meeting
Adaptive-Reuse Award
Best Appearance Award
Historic Research Award
Historic Rehabilitation Award
Historic Preservation Award
Historic Restoration Award
Historic Reconstruction Award
Landscaping Award
Mayor's Award
Special Merit Award
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Staff noted that Youth Court has added meeting dates on the same days as the
HPC meetings and will need to start setting up at 5:30 PM on those days.
Mrs. Cherry reminded commissioners of the joint meeting with City Council on
March 12, 2014 to interview applicants to fill the vacant HPC seat and expiring
terms.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
1. Staff report for Mills Act & Local Register Listing at 2858 Oak Hill Dr. (Item
F.1).
2. Copy of OHP e-mail regarding CLG Grant Limit (see Current Business
Item G.1).
3. Copies of Mills Act visit request letters (Item G.2)
4. List of past CPF Webinars now archived and viewable anytime. (The City
can pay the fee for these.) The webinar list is here:
http://www.californiapreservation.org/recorded-webinars . html.
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ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 5:40 pm. The next regular meeting was scheduled
for February 4, 2013, at 3:30 p.m.
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