Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · April 1, 2014
Minutes
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CITY OF ESCONDIDO
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ESCONDIDO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
April 1, 2014
The meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at
3:00 p.m. by Vice-chairman Rea, in the City Council Chambers, 201 North
Broadway, Escondido, California.
Commissioners present: Commissioner Lee, Commissioner Rea, Commissioner
Cherry, Commissioner Breitenfeld, Commissioner O'Boyle, and Commissioner
Spann,
Commissioners absent: Commissioner James.
Staff present: Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner; Paul Bingham, Assistant
Planner; and Ty Paulson, Minutes Clerk.
Commissioner O'Boyle introduced herself to the Commission.
Taken out of order.
MINUTES:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to approve the
minutes of the February 4, 2014 meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Selection of Chair and Vice-chair and determination of seating
CHAIR NOMINATION:
Commissioner Brietenfeld nominated Commissioner Cherry for Chair.
Commissioner Lee seconded the nomination. Motion carried unanimously.
VICE-CHAIR NOMINATION:
Commissioner Spann nominated Commissioner Rea for Vice-chair. Chairman Lee
seconded the nomination.
Commissioner Rea nominated Commissioner O'Boyle for Vice-chair.
Commissioner Brietenfeld seconded the motion.
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ACTION ON COMMISSIONER REA NOMINATION:
Ayes: Lee, Spann, Cherry, and O'Boyle. Noes: Rea, and Brietenfeld. Motion
carried. (4-2)
ACTION ON COMMISSIONER O'BOYLE NOMINATION:
Ayes: Rea, and Brietenfeld. Noes: Lee, Spann, Cherry, and O'Boyle. Motion did
not carry. (2-4)
Vice-chairman Rea requested to be seated closest to the Minutes Clerk. Chairman
Cherry was to move to the center chair position.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
CURRENT BUSINESS:
1. Review proposed facade changes in Historic Downtown at 212 E.
Grand Avenue.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property located at 212
East Grand Avenue as well as the current status of the property. He noted that
the applicant's request was to establish a restaurant, recess the front windows
and door to create an area for outdoor dining with beer and wine, and to add
some design elements on the rear of the building. Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner O'Boyle requested clarification regarding what type of floor
material would be used for the entrance. Mr. Hedyati indicated that they planned
on removing the existing tile and polishing the floor concrete.
Vice-chairman Rea suggested that if brick was discovered during the renovation
that it be incorporated into the project. Mr. Hedyati concurred, noting he was not
aware of the material that was underneath the stucco.
Discussion ensued regarding a clarification of the plane for the doors and
windows and as well as what type of railings would be used.
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ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Breitenfeld, to
approve staffs recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
2. Review proposed room addition behind existing single-family OEN
residence at 755 Chestnut.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property and noted the
property was not on the Local Register or survey. He then provided a description
of the one-story family room expansion and noted that it would not be visible from
Chestnut Street. Staff recommended approval.
Chairman Cherry and staff discussed the proposed path of travel to the garage.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Rea, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to approve
staffs recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
3. Review proposed additions to single-family OEN residence at 332 E.
10 th Avenue.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property located at 332 E.
10th Avenue and noted that the house was not on the survey or Local Register.
He indicated that the present owner wanted to renovate the residence as well as
convert the single-bay garage into a master bedroom, construct two additional
bedrooms in the current porch location at the back and add a double carport off
the alley. He indicated that owner had expressed an interest in selling the
property. Staff recommended approval of the most recent revised plans and color
and material exhibits as presented, with the condition that the garage door and
driveway be removed to meet current Code regulations regarding legally
converted garages.
Discussion ensued regarding a clarification of the proposed colors and roofing
material.
Mr. Bingham noted that the replacement windows would be wooden.
Commissioner Spann suggested that the landscaping proposed for the driveway
area be consistent with the other landscape. Mr. Hawes replied in the affirmative.
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Chairman Cherry asked if removal of the driveway apron would require removal
of the curb. Mr. Bingham replied in the negative, noting it did not have one
currently.
Chairman Cherry requested clarification regarding what type of material would be
used for the carport as well as what type of pitch it would have. Mr. Hawes and
Mr. Marquez noted that the materials would be the same as the house along with
having a gable pitch.
Chairman Cherry asked whether they felt the proposed carport's posts would
provide adequate alley access. Mr. Hawes replied in the affirmative.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Rea, to approve
staffs recommendation with the removal of the existing garage door and driveway.
Motion carried. Ayes: Spann, Rea, O'Boyle, Lee, and Brietenfeld. Noes: Cherry.
(5-1)
4. Review Code Enforcement case for vinyl window installation in OEN
at 610 S. Hickory.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property located at 610
South Hickory and noted that this was a Code Enforcement case due to the
property owner not obtaining a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacing the
aluminum windows with vinyl windows. He also stated that the property was not
on the Local Register or survey and was built in 1967.
Chairman Cherry asked if a building permit was needed for vinyl windows.
Mr. Bingham replied in the negative. He also stated that the only reason for the
code enforcement issue was due to the property being in the Historic District.
Commissioner Brietenfeld noted that the adjacent property had vinyl windows.
David Ogden, Clear Energy, noted that he replaced the windows and was not
aware of the conditions for this Historic District.
Commissioner Rea stated that she was very disappointed with the look of the
vinyl windows, noting they did not resemble what originally existed.
Commissioner Brietenfeld did not feel the look of the windows was detrimental to
the look of the residence.
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Mr. Ogden stated that the replacement windows were used more for function
than form, noting they helped insulate the house. He also indicated that the vinyl
could be painted.
Commissioner O'Boyle noted that she was opposed to vinyl windows, noting her
preference would have been to use a wooden trim. Mr. Ogden noted that wooden
trim could be used.
Commissioner Spann felt the vinyl windows were appropriate in this location
since the house was not a significant historic home. He expressed his concern
with the Certificate of Appropriateness not being obtained and felt that the cost
for the certificate should be received. Mr. Bingham noted that the applicant was
paying for this hearing and the Certificate of Appropriateness if approved.
Discussion ensued regarding painting the window trim or part of the vinyl window
frame the same color as the existing house panels.
Commissioner O'Boyle motioned to add wood trim for all windows and that it be
painted the color of the house trim. The motion included painting the vinyl
window frames bronze. Motion did not carry.
Commissioner Lee noted that the Secretary of Interior Standards needed to be
considered, noting the property was neither on the Local Register nor Survey as
well as being under 50 years old. He also noted that the subject windows were
energy efficient.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Brietenfeld, to
approve as submitted. Motion did not carry. Ayes: Spann, Brietenfeld, and Lee.
Noes: Cherry, Rea, and O'Boyle. (3-3)
Commissioner Lee noted that the level of significance needed to be taken into
consideration according the Secretary of Interior Standards.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Rea, seconded by Commissioner O'Boyle, to add one-
by-four molding to match the existing shape of the original trim and to place over
the vinyl edge flange which was to be painted the color of the siding or dark
green trim color. Motion carried. Ayes: Rea, O'Boyle, Brietenfeld, and Cherry.
Noes: Lee and Spann. (4-2)
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5. Review proposed additions to single-family OEN residence at 137 E.
11th Avenue.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property located at 137
East 1 1In Avenue and noted it was neither on the Local Register nor Survey. He
indicated that the property was challenging due to the topography having varying
elevations. The request included retaining the 520 SF residence, expanding
behind the existing residence, and constructing a garage with a double gable roof
at the corner of the residence. He stated that wood framed double-hung windows
would be used for the addition. Staff felt the proposed plan was the best option,
given the property's elevations, and outcroppings of boulders. Staff
recommended approval.
Commissioner O'Boyle asked if the garage doors would be wooden or metal.
Abrhil Arvizu, applicant, stated that she was not sure what material the garage
doors would be. She stated that she wanted to keep the original design in a
craftsman style.
Commissioner Rea felt the addition of the garage and doors should be simplified
down to resemble the simplicity of the original cottage (a California bungalow).
She suggested using single hung windows. She felt the design of the garage was
out of character with house. She also suggested flipping the gables on the
garage and adding a front door with a single pane window.
Ms. Arvizu noted no problem with making the garage doors and front door more
simple.
Commissioner Brietenfeld reference Item 4 on the south elevation design, feeling
it would be appropriate for the design of the garage. Ms. Arvizu noted no issue
with a simplifying the garage door and front door.
Chairman Cherry was in favor of the proposed color pallet as well as the
suggestion to simplify the front door and garage door.
Commissioner Rea suggested a single gable for the garage.
Commissioner Brietenfeld felt a single gable would create the appearance of a
larger garage. Commissioner Spann concurred.
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ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Rea, seconded by Commissioner O'Boyle, to approve
staff's recommendation. The motion included simplifying the front door by using a
single window and single wood panel and simplifying the garage door by
reducing the amount of panels. Motion carried unanimously.
6. Review proposed shed behind existing single-family OEN residence
at 1165 Chestnut.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history, which included additions and
revisions for the property located 1165 Chestnut. He noted that the property was
on the Survey. The request was to construct a shed with a gable roof and
demolish the carport and construct a new double garage with a bedroom and
bath above the garage. Staff recommended approval with a condition to deed
restrict the bedroom above the garage so it could not be used as a second
dwelling unit.
Samuel Mireles, applicant, noted that that the garage unit would not be used as
a rental. He also stated that he planned on renovating the property in phases.
Commissioner O'Boyle asked if a kitchen would be allowed in the unit above the
garage. Mr. Bingham replied in the negative.
Commissioner Spann noted that the additions would not be visible from the
street. He felt the garage structure needed a little more architectural detail. Mr.
Mireles noted that he could increase the size of the front facing window, which
would help provide more design.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Rea, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to approve
staffs recommendation. Ayes: Spann, Rea, Lee, and O'Boyle. Noes: Brietenfeld
and Cherry. Motion carried. (4-2)
7. Review proposal to demolish a single-family OEN residence and
build a new house at 220 W. 10 th Avenue.
Mr. Bingham provided the background history for the property located 220 West
10 th Avenue. He noted that the property was not on the Local Register but was
on the survey. He indicated that staff had researched whether there was any
significance to the property and found none, noting that the historian indicated
that there were many additions to the property. Mr. Bingham noted that the walls
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of the house were built with a fired clay block with no reinforcement and little
footing, so they were crumbling. Code Enforcement had posted the structure as
uninhabitable. The first request was to demolish the residence, which staff
supported. The second request was to build a new house, retaining the garage,
and adding a single carport. Staff did not feel the proposed Spanish hacienda
architecture was appropriate for the location and felt the treatments should be
more in line with the simpler architecture of the Mediterranean Revival it was
replacing.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Lee, seconded by Commissioner Rea, to approve staffs
recommendation that the structure located a 220 West 10 th Avenue be allowed to
be to demolished. Motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Rea felt the new structure should resemble the original structure,
a simple Mediterranean style, to maintain the diverse fabric of the Old Escondido
Neighborhood. She also felt the proposed design was too elaborate.
Mr. Yant noted that the owner would be totally fine with simplifying the
architecture. He asked if he could submit another design before the next
regularly scheduled Commission meeting, which could be acted upon.
Commissioner Lee felt the structure should be consistent with the other
residences in the area.
Commissioner O'Boyle felt the new structure should resemble the previous
structure.
Commissioner Spann felt the structure should represent a Mediterranean Revival
th Avenue.
style like the Ben Cueva units on West 7
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Rea, seconded by Commissioner Brietenfeld, to direct
staff to work with the applicant to revise the house design to resemble a
Mediterranean revival/Spanish style. This was to be submitted to the subcommittee
comprised of Commissioners Rea, O'Boyle, and Brietenfeld for approval. Motion
carried unanimously.
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Updates:
Historic District - Breitenfeld, Rea
History Center — Lee
Commercial Historical — Spann, Cherry
Register/Survey/CLG Grants — Breitenfeld, Cherry (McQuead — alternate)
Mills Act Monitoring Committee — Breitenfeld, Rea, and Spann
Historic Public Relations — Rea, (vacancy)
Endangered StructuresNintage Signs —Rea, Cherry
Daley Ranch — Staff
Chairman Cherry requested an agenda item to discuss reviewing subcommittees
with regard to establishing goals and creating and replacing some
subcommittees. The Commission tabled updates to the next meeting.
Nominations for Historic Awards Program: Confirmation of five (5) vintage
signs nominated for awards to be presented May 21, 2014 and wording of award
certificates.
Mrs. Cherry referenced the staff report and noted that staff requested language
for each certificate. Commissioner Rea provided wording for staff, which was
reviewed and edited.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS — None.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Commissioner Rea asked for an update regarding the City Council status for
preservations fees. Mrs. Cherry noted staff had not heard anything yet.
Chairman Cherry noted that she was looking forward to the dialog regarding the
fees. Commissioner Rea suggested sending a new letter to City Council asking
for an agenda item to discuss the fees. Chairman Cherry suggested looking at
this at the next meeting when considering the subcommittees.
WRITTEN COMMUNCATIONS:
1. Memo regarding Item 1, Current Business
2. Memo regarding Vintage Signs nominated for awards, Item K
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ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 5:28 pm. The next regular meeting was scheduled
for June 3, 2014, at 3:30 p.m.
ne Cherry, Principal P nner Ty PJIson, Minutes Clerk
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