Library Board of Trustees Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · August 8, 2017
Minutes
Escondido Public Library Board of Trustees
Board Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, August 8, 2017, 2:00 p.m.
Library Turrentine Room
CALL TO ORDER: President Guiles called the meeting to order at 2:01 p.m.
Members Present: Trustees Ron Guiles, Mirek Gorny, Elmer Cameron, Gary
Knight, and Mayra Salazar.
Members Absent: None.
Staff Present: Cynthia Smith, Interim Director of Library and Community Services;
Joanna Axelrod, Principal Librarian; Jeffrey Epp, City Manager; Michael McGuiness,
City Attorney; Sheryl Bennett, Director of Administrative Services; Joan Ryan,
Assistant Director of Finance and Misty Breymeyer, Division Coordinator.
Written/Oral Communications: None.
Agenda Item #1: Approval of Minutes:
Motion by Trustee Cameron, seconded by Trustee Gorny, to approve the minutes of
the July 11, 2017 meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Current Business
Agenda Item #2: Review the City of Escondido's Response to the San Diego
County Grand Jury Report Regarding Escondido Public Library
Director Smith and the Trustees reviewed the City's response to the San Diego
County Grand Jury Report. The response was issued in June and made available for
public review on both the City of Escondido and the San Diego County Grand Jury
websites.
Trustee Cameron said he was impressed with the quality of the response to each
concern within the Grand Jury report. He commended staff for their thorough
research and thoughtful response.
President Guiles seconded Trustee Cameron's statement and added the Grand Jury
may be interested in trying to review complaints, but generally, they don't fully
understand the context of the complaint and are limited in their ability to research
complicated situations.
Trustee Salazar agreed that the Grand Jury's job is tough; however, she was
disheartened that City Management sent the response without allowing the Trustees
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or Library staff to review the draft prior to completion and that it mentions outsourcing
as an option when that topic is just now being raised for discussion.
Agenda Item #3: Library Board of Trustees Discussion on Outsourcing
Escondido Public Library Services.
Director Smith communicated the background of the City's exploration of outsourcing
the Escondido Public Library (EPL) to Library Systems & Services (LS&S). She
spoke about the community engagement at the July 11, 2017 Board of Trustees
meeting, which had 30 speakers who were unanimously opposed to outsourcing. At
that meeting, the Trustees decided to discuss this topic further and made it an
agenda item.
At this time, members of the audience held up various signs in support of keeping
the library public.
Trustee Cameron reviewed the Trustee's bylaws and explained that they are not the
final decision makers but an advisory body. He shared the Board's mission to help
the public better understand the Trustee's role and their limitations in reference to
making final decisions.
"The primary mission of the Escondido Public Library Board of
Trustees is to be vocal and energetic advocates for the essential
services that the Escondido Public Library provides to our community
and to give sound and timely advice and counsel to the Escondido City
Council and the Director of Library & Community Services on the
development of plans, policies and programs that are responsive to
community needs and desires."
President Guiles stated that the intent of the meeting was to be an example of the
best use of democracy. He reminded the audience that Trustees are volunteers and
in order to have an effective meeting, everyone should remain courteous.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Whitney McCoy of Save our Library, Escondido advocacy group, made
arrangements prior to the meeting to give a 10-minute presentation on the reputation
and operations of LS&S. Save our Library felt privatizing the library was a mistake,
and reiterated other public comment from the July 11, 2017 meeting that Escondido
has a great library which should be protected. Public libraries are not an expense but
an investment that demonstrates a City's commitment to improving the lives of local
residents. An American Library Association (ALA) study found for every $1 spent,
the local community receives $5.48 in economic value, and the average American
citizen pays less than $40 in taxes for libraries per year.
A library's role is to remain unbiased, promote literacy, identify and remove barriers,
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and to be a cornerstone of democracy. EPL's budget accounts for less than 3% of
the City's budget. She reminded the group that LS&S does not disclose financial
information relevant to the exploration and transparency of the privatization of EPL;
that the company is owned by a private equity firm. Privatization is not recommended
by ALA as they found operational savings are due to staff reductions and hiring lower
level staff at lower salaries and benefits. All savings will not be returned to the City.
In the last Board meeting, LS&S pointed to the County of Riverside as a successful
contract in the local area, but that County transferred service to LS&S due to a
financial crisis that would have closed libraries had a contract not occurred. LS&S
has a material budget for Riverside that is too small for the community it serves based
on an ALA survey. The survey included LS&S staff responses that confirmed ALA's
concerns regarding staffing levels and qualifications, as well as on collection
development and materials budgets. Based on the LS&S model at other libraries,
Ms. McCoy projected how this model of operation would impact EPL. She also
compared the current staffing levels of librarians with MLS degrees, and how much
money was spent on youth materials between EPL, Riverside, and San Diego
County libraries. In all scenarios, LS&S's Riverside County libraries were
understaffed and underfunded compared to both San Diego County and Escondido
Public Library.
The proposal states that LS&S can save the City $400,000, which is only 0.0025%
of the City's total budget. Ms. McCoy is frustrated the City is willing to give up
operations of their Library for such a small amount. She stated the Library should not
be lumped in with shopping cart removal and graffiti clean-up. Privatization will
remove local funds from the local community, and give them to an out of state, for-
profit company. She also repeated the Board of Trustee bylaws and urged the
Trustees to formally advise the City Council against this action.
Laura Mitchell, Vista, read a letter sent to the Board of Trustees from both James
Neal, ALA President, and Pam Sandlian Smith, Public Library Association (PLA)
President in which they site ALA's policy against the shifting of policymaking and
management oversight of library services for the public to the private for-profit sector.
As the former Escondido Library Director, she never thought she would be angrier
that when the City Council majority voted to close the East Valley Branch (EVB)
library. She is sad and frustrated by this discussion and requested the Trustees
recommend the City Council drop this idea.
Lucy Berk, Escondido, stated the Pioneer Room plays a vital role as the City's
archival depository. It contains original maps, documents, photographs, and rare
books. She is concerned with what would happen if a private company decides to
sell the rare books for a profit. The current staff are highly trained and have recently
reorganized the Pioneer Room collection and look. It would be a disaster to have it
closed, privatized, or if anything else happened to it. Please keep the Pioneer Room
in mind when making a decision.
Chris Nava, Escondido, emphasized the stance ALA has made in reference to
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keeping public libraries public, and commented how decisions should be driven by
the best interest of the community, not profits. Privatizing public entities threatens two
pillars; transparency and accountability. She is concerned with the lack of
transparency as City staff continue to explain this as an exploratory phase, when she
has a copy of an email between two LS&S employees stating they are very close to
securing a contract with the City. Escondido's Library is a service, not a business.
Anna Marie Valasco, Escondido, is a retired teacher, who loves the library. She
saw the negative impact of the closure of the EVB, specifically impacting the Latino
community. This is not a partisan issue; it is a money issue. Her recommendation to
save money is to consider joining the County system or to look at the salaries of
some City employees. Savings should come from somewhere else. Escondido
cannot afford any more negative publicity. The community should control the Library;
our Library is not for sale.
Barbara Letsom, Escondido, stated she has been accused of being politically
manipulated by City Council members. Her response to that label is to focus on the
loss of quality other outsourced libraries have experienced. She spoke about her
shock and disappointment of the EVB closure. There is fear that this decision to
outsource will be pushed through, like the decision to close EVB, without community
input.
Heidi Paul, Escondido, shared her experience at the last book club meeting.
Twenty-five people shared ideas within a fascinating exchange of The Outliers: The
Story of Success, and gave a synopsis of the book. She commended the quality staff
and dedicated volunteers at EPL, who would not work for a Maryland company. The
staff are the success of this library: Great libraries like NYPL are not being
outsou rced.
Bob Will, Escondido, serves as the Pioneer Room Friends President. They have
no interest in seeing any change in library service. The Pioneer Room is personal to
this community and houses personal papers that tell of Escondido's history. Francis
Beven Ryan gave us the opportunity to preserve and provide access to Escondido's
history. Current management staff are interested and supportive and that's very
important.
Karen Tatge, President of Escondido City Employees Association, said the
association is asking the City to refrain from outsourcing. They are concerned for the
employees and recognize the quality and hard work of current staff, Outsourcing is
detrimental to salaries and benefits, and results in high-turnover, low wages, and
causes stagnant career paths.
Lynn Lau, Escondido, says though she is not a professional in a library system, she
is still angry about this discussion. As the former secretary for Trustee Cameron, he
taught her to anticipate outcomes. In this case, she is anticipating the loss of morale
of the Library staff, an unsuccessful bond issue for a new library, and a loss of
cohesion within the community. When negotiating a new contract, she anticipates
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that LS&S will charge the City and ever increasing amount She urges the Trustees
to not recommend outsourcing the library system.
Patricia Borchmann, Escondido, shared with the Board an excerpt from
Participatory Budgeting Project on the democratic process which gives informational
power to the public to help see how money is spent. She left information with the
Division Coordinator to give to the Trustees, and will forward it to the Council prior to
the next meeting. She spoke of the failures of other outsourced entities like SAN DAG,
and a Riverside system for collecting traffic mitigation fees to cover infrastructure.
Debbie Resler, Escondido, her family moved to Escondido fifteen-years ago and
loves the sense of community and diversity in the area. The Library has done a
wonderful job of meeting the various community needs. A large portion of the
community needs intemet access and when EVD closed, they lost that access.
Laura Hunter, Escondido, stated new information has been released since the last
Board meeting, and the proposal is exceedingly weak. How can the Board make a
recommendation based on generic promotional statements and a lump sum total?
There are no details and it lacks how much profit will be made. The other issue is the
lack of details within the cost benefit analysis. It does not show the current benefits
of EPL; it only compares open hours. Nor does it calculate the potential loss of
volunteer hours or donations. People do not want to volunteer or give their money to
a for-profit company. Save the Council from themselves.
Brenda Townsend, Escondido, for 110 years EPL has existed. We have the same
great programs they offer; we do not need them. LS&S may build vibrant libraries but
we already have a vibrant library. If there were issues with how the Library is
performing, Council should communicate that to Library administration.
Roy Garrett, Escondido, implored the Trustees to remember they volunteered for
the position. A Trustee has a higher duty than an employee; a fiduciary duty, and
high care of the Trust. You are not just volunteers, the beneficiaries of your Trust are
in front of you. They are telling you without exception to stand up for them and
perform the duty of your Trust.
Greg Dean, Escondido, gave thanks to the Trustees for not turning their backs on
the public. He asked how many Council members it takes to ruin Escondido, and
answered four. He recognized that only Council member Olga Diaz was present at
the meeting. He spoke of his experience living in Southern Oregon, and how the
libraries there are not renewing their contract with LS&S. The company's rating in
that area is so low no other library system in that area will entertain working with
LS&S. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
Georgine Tomasi, Escondido, spoke of how in the last meeting, the Trustees heard
the passions of the community. She reminded them that they serve on the Board and
are also members of the community. She questioned the legacy they wanted to leave
and asked who would propose to get rid of a public sell/ice as good as EPL. It
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compares to the Philadelphia Library as far as quality employees, services, and
collections - do not destroy that.
Joan Brushee, Escondido, is a retired teacher who moved to Escondido twenty
years ago. She recognized the good points made by the public already and reiterated
what had been said. She has questions that need answers. This is not what Benjamin
Franklin had in mind. Can any LS&S profits be used to benefit political campaigns?
How is the public protected from LS&S becoming a political vehicle? How will the
collections be protected from political influence? She hopes this gets resolved in a
democratic way, just as Benjamin Franklin would have intended.
Loretta McKinney, San Marcos, is the most recent retired Escondido Public Library
Director, and previously the Library Director for Murrieta Public Library located in
Riverside County. She is not in support of a transition to LS&S, a for-profit company.
From her personal experience, she knows the community is first to suffer in search
of profits. The LS&S staff do not receive the proper funds to support their community,
and are first to leave when an opening comes available in a municipally-run library.
There is a situation with unfunded PERS liability costs, and there should be a timeline
and a master plan for addressing this issue across the City — not put on the back of
a single department. The Library should not be cherry picked. LS&S does exist to fix
broken libraries, but EPL is not broken. The Library is a City department — not a
service within a City department the way that graffiti removal is.
Ron Kohl, Escondido asked if the contract is already approved. He stated we are
dealing with liars and deceitful people trying to steal our money. This Trustees are
responsible and can help prevent this. On August 3, 2017 an email from LS&S came
out saying this is already a done deal. Instead he recommends privatizing the City
Mayor and the City Manager.
Meryl Burke, Escondido, created a petition online a week ago and currently has
over 500 signatures in support of keeping the Library public. She will be submitting
a PDF copy of the petition to the Board for public record. The Council was moving
towards building a new facility that would be a beacon for North County, then
changed and decided to privatize the Library. The blame is with the Council not
LS&S. Elections are coming up and we will not reelect you. The joined petitions are
showing that thousands of people are not supportive of this decision. We will not
support a new library if we do not support how the library is being run. In Jackson
County, Oregon the public record shows that they will not be renewing their contract
with LS&S. Don't ruin our reputation.
Jack Anderson, Escondido, is the President of the Escondido Library Foundation,
but is not speaking on their behalf as they have yet to take a formal stance. Escondido
is in need of an expanded library facility. In 2010, the staff planned to expand on the
current site. In 2016, the Council acted to once again explore an expansion plan, but
this time at Grape Day Park. Regardless of the magnitude or location, it is important
for the community to be involved and support a bond measure. It concerns the
Foundation greatly that the bond may be negatively affected by unintended
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consequences of outsourcing, and this needs to be addressed.
Neal Hook, Escondido, said he is glad to see so many people supporting the
Library in this City. He is concerned that speakers are limited to two-minutes. Even
Council Member Olga Diaz was limited, but she was given more time to keep
everyone informed. To the Council the Library is irrelevant because they know what
is best for us. Citizens spoke out in opposition to closing EVB and they ignored us.
The Library is an essential feature for everyone. The Council wants to save money
yet the City Manager and City Attorney are two of the highest paid City empoyees.
Where are the Council's priorities?
Mary Gaines, Valley Center, says though she lives outside the city, she uses the
Library. As a retired public defender she has seen the benefits of public libraries first
hand. Without them, her case load would be even greater because libraries provide
opportunities for people who would otherwise be in the criminal justice system to
improve their lives in positive ways. She is concerned about the issues of
accountability and transparency. Will LS&S replace the current Board with their own
Board of Directors? The City is trying to annex areas to pay for its budget. Police and
Fire retire at 50 years with 100% of their salary. The volunteers provide service to the
library. Without them, it will all go away. Council needs to come up with a plan to pay
pensions without cutting services.
Virginia Abushanab, Escondido, is a volunteer in the Bookshop. The Friends of
the Library sell about $70,000 worth of books each year. She stated she will not work
for a for-profit company. The present arrangement for Library collection budget is the
City puts in $200,000 for circulating materials, and the Friends put in $50,000. The
new company is saying they will be getting the Friends money, but there is no
guarantee. The Library Director must ask each year for this, and each year the
Friends Board must approve the request. Do you think this private company is going
to get the same response from the Friends?
Liz White, Escondido, says she is one of the people manning the petition collection
desk downstairs, where they continue collecting signatures and educating the public
on what it means if this Library is privatized. She experienced people running to the
table to sign this petition. Children are also signing the banner and it is filling up with
support to keep the Library public. Do not forget the people who have been showing
support through signatures.
Olga Diaz, Escondido City Council Member, praised the crowd for showing up at
2:00 P.M. on a Tuesday. She quoted Winston Churchill as having said that success
is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm. She has been
opposed to this since the first time she heard of the idea on April 5, 2017, and is not
sure how we ended up in this situation. She did not sign the Grand Jury response as
it contained language about outsourcing. it was never the intent for the public or the
Trustees to be included in this process and stated that we have had to force
ourselves into the process. She does not forgive the closure of EVB. She does not
trust the City Council's majority to a vote. To LS&S, if they felt they were invited, that
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was not by the community; this is not supported. She supports a new, publican}, run
library in Grape Day Park. She told the Trustees that she is a good friend to have
when they need support and that they should not feel alone in opposing this proposal.
She urged the Trustees to recommend Council not to go through with the privatization
of the Library.
Patricia Serrano, Escondido, an immigrant living in Escondido for twenty-three
years, stated this Library helped her learn to speak English. Her son is successful in
life because of this Library. He went to a great college in Massachusetts because of
the books in this collection. She felt the closure of EVB was an attack on her
community due to its location. They closed it due to budget, but we have a surplus.
The City Manager and City Attorney's salaries are disgusting. They will not be around
forever, but the damage they are doing to this community is irreversible.
TRUSTEE DISCUSSION:
Board President Guiles informed the Trustees that 56 people have spoken over the
course of the last two Trustee meetings; 26 today and 30 on July 11, 2017. In
addition, they have received multiple emails and letters. The Trustees have patiently
listened, but now it is their turn to let the public know their feelings and hopefully make
a recommendation to vote before the end of the meeting.
Trustee Knight gave his appreciation for everyone speaking. In the 11 years he has
been on the Board, this is the most unique opportunity to engage with the public. He
clarified the he has no issues with Library operational efficiencies or outcomes. The
Board did not initiate this discussion and feels the staff do an outstanding job. This is
. a discussion of finances. The Council appears to have gone outside the normal
process of asking what is being done in other communities. A savings of $400,000
does not come close to meeting the pension obligation. Many neighboring cities have
outsourced policy to no ill effect and saved millions of dollars. He is not
recommending that, but wants to know if Council has pursued that as an option. We
did not request a change to how the Library is managed, so he does not want to
make a change.
Trustee Salazar has been on the Board for three years. She grew up in a single-
parent household in Escondido. The Library was her safe haven and she would not
be sitting at this table without this Library. If it hadn't been for the Library, she would
not have gone to college. She has worked in public service and knows how hard it is
to manage a budget, and sometimes constituents can be wrong, but not now. This
decision could have a negative effect on the community. She understands the need
to figure this pension crisis out, but the Council needs to go back to the drawing
board.
Trustee Gamy is in his third term on the Board. He feels the existing Library is great
with professional staff and highly efficient operations. He has seen staff deal with
financial difficulties in the past, yet they always pull through. Our Library is not broken
and does not need to be fixed. He recommended to leave it as it is.
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Trustee Cameron stated he wears two hats; one as a longtime Trustee, and one as
the President of the Friends of the Library for the last 15 years. He has spent a lot of
time volunteering to help raise money for the important things within the library. The
Friends has a Board of Directors which represents the volunteers and over 250
paying members. Volunteers enjoy being here and seeing the work going on daily.
The Friends for the last three or four years have raised $75,000 each year. The
priority is not to pay for operational needs, but specifically programs for children,
books for children, and programs free to the community. The Friends do not have an
official position at this time, but it is on the agenda for their meeting the following
morning. He looks forward to the discussion and hopeful the Council will move ahead
with the new library project. One concern he has is that if we need to build a new
library, will there be support? We need a new library, not a community that says wait.
He knows they are willing to support a new library, but not sure about a bond. It takes
two-thirds approval to pass a bond. The board will come up with a recommendation
soon for the Council.
President Guiles has been thinking about the advantages and disadvantages of this
subject for the last month. The City is right to look at any potential cost savings, but
$400,000 is insignificant. He stated he is there to represent the people of Escondido
to the Council. The advantage of LS&S was to open on Sundays, but after speaking
with the Library Director it was found the Library can be opened on Sundays without
increasing staff. Staff should be congratulated on hiring bright, highly qualified staff.
He is concerned about losing those staff as a result of this uncertainty. He is
concerned about losing community support for a bond measure if this continues
longer. He is an advocate for building a new library on property owned and controlled
by the City and explained how long and drawn out the process was when Farr
Elementary school had to use the process of eminent domain to secure private
property for an expansion. President Guiles continued there are not many things in
a community that everyone agrees on. In all the public feedback received, only one
person said they were in favor of outsourcing. If this was a broken system, he would
be in favor of bringing LS&S in, but rather feels we have a fabulous Library. With
privatization, his concern is limited public control. He is looking forward to using the
community's passion and energy to pass a bond. We need to be thinking at this time
of what outsourcing will do to our community. We need 66% to pass a bond and
cannot possibly be successful with any organized opposition. Outsourcing would
leave the same kinds of injuries in this community that the closure of EVB has left.
He encouraged the Board to make a motion.
ACTION TAKEN:
Motion by Trustee Salazar, seconded by Trustee Knight to oppose outsourcing the
Escondido Public Library. Motion carried unanimously.
President Guiles suggested a subcommittee of Trustees prepare a letter to send to
the City Council and to schedule a special meeting for next Tuesday, August 15,
2017 to review the letter and make final recommendations. Everyone agreed.
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OTHER REPORTS:
Cynthia Smith, Interim Director of Library & Community Services, updated the
Trustees that the very successful Summer Reading Challenge ended July 31, 2017
and alerted the Board that the Collection Development Policy would come before the
Board for review in September.
Next Meetings:
Special Meeting — August 15, 2017
Monthly Trustee Meeting - September 12, 2017
ADJOURNMENT:
Moved by Trustee Cameron, seconded by Trustee Gamy, to adjourn the meeting at
3:57 p.m otion carried unanimously.
Ron uiles, President, Library Board of Trustees/M. Breymeyer, Division Coordinator
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