Planning Commission
Regular MeetingEugene, OR · April 10, 2006
Minutes
SUMMARY MINUTES
Regular Meeting
Eugene Planning Commission
Sloat Room—The Atrium—99 West 10th Avenue
April 10, 2006
11:30 a.m.
PRESENT: Rick Duncan, Vice President; Jon Belcher, Phillip Carroll, Randy Hledik, Phillip
Hudspeth, John Lawless, members; Mike Sullivan, ex officio; Steve Nystrom,
Susan Muir, Kurt Yeiter, Beth Bridges, Planning and Development Department;
Gary McNeel, Public Works Department; Roxie Cuellar, Charles Biggs, Dale
Deason, Rob Handy, Garrick Mishaga, Jr., Rene Kane, guests.
ABSENT: Mitzi Colbath, President.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES –-January 23, 2006
Mr. Hledik, seconded by Mr. Duncan, moved to accept the
minutes of January 23, 2006 as amended. The motion passed
unanimously, 6:0.
II. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION: OPPORTUNITY SITING
Staff: Kurt Yeiter, 682-8379
III. ITEMS FROM COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Other Items from Staff
B. Other Items from Commission
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Regular Meeting
Eugene Planning Commission
Sloat Room—The Atrium—99 West 10th Avenue
April 10, 2006
11:30 a.m.
PRESENT: Rick Duncan, Vice President; Jon Belcher, Phillip Carroll, Randy Hledik, Phillip
Hudspeth, John Lawless, members; Mike Sullivan, ex officio; Steve Nystrom,
Susan Muir, Kurt Yeiter, Beth Bridges, Planning and Development Department;
Gary McNeel, Public Works Department; Roxie Cuellar, Charles Biggs, Dale
Deason, Rob Handy, Garrick Mishaga, Jr., Rene Kane, guests.
ABSENT: Mitzi Colbath, President.
Rick Duncan convened the Planning Commission at 11:31 a.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
Charles Biggs, 540 Antelope Way, addressed growth issues in general. He said it was important
to tie any growth planning with transportation. He said it was important to involve neighborhood
associations and the Neighborhood Leaders Council (NLC) in a collaborative process in
developing ideas at the beginning, rather than having those groups in a position of responding to
ideas presented to them. He said it would be helpful to have copies of the subcommittee minutes.
Roxie Cuellar, 2053 Laura Street, Springfield, stated that she represented the Home Builders
Association of Lane County (HBA). She said the HBA was concerned about the opportunity
siting process. She shared a conversation she had with Councilors David Kelly and Andrea Ortiz
on Friday, April 7, regarding land supply. Mr. Kelly said that he did not want to entertain the
idea of looking at the land supply until the opportunity siting work was concluded. Ms. Cuellar
sensed confusion about the Planning Commission’s assignment from the City Council, whether
neighborhoods were supposed to identify how much growth they were willing to accommodate or
if the neighborhoods would be given a specific number that needed to be accommodated.
Ms. Cuellar reported that Mr. Kelly saw the issue as a two-pronged approach. First the
neighborhoods would be asked to determine how much growth they were willing to
accommodate. If the numbers were insufficient with what the City wanted the neighborhoods to
accommodate, the neighborhoods would then be given the assignment of finding a way to
accommodate an assigned number.
Ms. Cuellar asserted that if the City of Eugene was not going to look at the land supply until
opportunity siting was finished, a two-pronged approach delayed the land use study process.
Using a concurrent approach did not appeal to Mr. Kelly. She said the HBA was concerned that
the length of the opportunity siting process would be used as a basis for delaying a land supply
study.
Ms. Cuellar stated that using the two-pronged approach gave the neighborhood groups two
assignments, which was a significant amount of work to ask of volunteers. She was concerned
that when relying on volunteers, having a two-pronged approach delayed the amount of time it
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would take to accomplish the task. Secondly, an upfront approach taken to the neighbors
required a significant amount of work and input from many people.
Dale Deason, 1527 Charnelton, recently learned that the City Council recently had effectively
rezoned a large portion of his neighborhood, the Jefferson Westside Neighbors (JWN) from R-1
to R-2 based upon Planning staff recommendation with little public notice or discussion. He
understood that the current R-2 standards were extremely lax, which would allow a radical
transformation of the JWN for the worse. He stated that although the neighborhood refinement
plan included a policy of protecting the neighborhood, there was no effective legal or
administrative structure to support that policy.
Mr. Deason said there were people in positions of influence who were actively seeking to change
the character of the neighborhood, quoting one person as saying, “The close in neighborhoods
would just have to take their mess”. He stated that real estate agencies were advertising
residential lots in the neighborhood as suitable for large apartment buildings, quoting one printed
advertisement as saying, “City says seven units possible.” Mr. Deason said the lot was on a block
consisting entirely of single family detached homes. He stated that he was not opposed to
increased density in his neighborhood, and accepted that infill would occur. He questioned
whether it would be done in cooperation with the residents in a manner in that protected and
enhanced, or destroyed wonderful, existing neighborhoods. He expressed suspicion and concern
about the opportunity siting process.
Mr. Belcher stated that he lived in the Jefferson Westside Neighborhood, and had served as co-
chair of the neighborhood association. He had fought long and hard to protect the livability of the
neighborhood. He added he was a Planning Commissioner when the rezoning process took place.
Mr. Belcher stated that the JWN Plan said that for those neighborhoods which had been changed
in the Metro Plan was designated as low and medium residential 25 years ago. When the
refinement plan was passed the Metro Plan should have been changed as well, but that did not
happen. Recently, the Planning Commission reviewed all of the refinement plans to ensure that
the Metro Plan was in compliance with the refinement plans. Mr. Belcher stated that the JWN
refinement plan stated that low/medium density residential would be applied to residential lots
within the boundary of the JWN.
Mr. Belcher stated that he had not completely understood the implications of the adopted changes
at that time. He said in reality, the commission’s action brought the Metro Plan diagram into
conformance with the refinement plans. The impact of that action had resulted in several zone
changes, some of which had been approved, and some of which had not, been recommended for
the area, citing that provision of the refinement plan. He stated if the procedure had been done
properly, the Metro Plan would have been modified and the changes processed through that
avenue. He added that the zoning would now be easier to modify because the Metro Plan was
compliant with the refinement plan.
Mr. Belcher asserted that the current language of the refinement plan allowed for upzoning of
properties with one of two criteria occurring:
• There had to be a block planning process that had not yet occurred, but that the Planning
Commission could undertake as part of protecting the core neighborhoods; or
• Site review placed on the site, which meant that when a use was proposed, it had to be
declared compatible within the allowed uses of adjacent neighbors.
Mr. Belcher said he would like to talk about this issue soon to determine if the Planning
Commission wanted to add this to its work plan. He added that he wished to avoid dealing with a
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Ballot Measure 37 issue by reviewing it. He said the refinement plan needed to be changed.
Mr. Deason stated that he did not share Mr. Belcher’s view of the refinement plan.
Mr. Belcher suggested that the neighborhood should initiate a refinement plan review of which he
would be supportive.
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – January 23, 2006
Mr. Belcher offered the following correction:
Page 7, paragraph 1, should read:
Mr. Belcher expressed frustration with abstract that the growth management policies on the wall
did not link to anything in particular had not successfully and sufficiently increased density nor
protected neighborhoods from inappropriate development. He felt it was important to look at
target populations to determine how and if they should be accommodated.
Mr. Duncan offered the following correction:
Page 6, paragraph 10, sentence 1, should read:
Mr. Duncan stated that the subcommittee looked at educating the neighborhoods about density of
both their and other neighborhoods, good density/bad density, with the idea that understanding
how much density each neighborhood could accommodate could that could then be translated
into a population number that would identify how many people could be absorbed within the
urban growth boundary (UGB).
Mr. Hledik, seconded by Mr. Duncan, moved to accept the
minutes of January 23, 2006 as amended. The motion passed
unanimously, 6:0.
II. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION: OPPORTUNITY SITING
Mr. Yeiter provided the staff report. He said the City Council had charged the Planning
Commission with the task of developing a program to focus infill on specific sites referred to as
Opportunity Siting, including protecting established neighborhoods from negative effects of infill.
Mr. Yeiter reported that the subcommittee had been meeting for several months and had
developed recommendations and background statements, copies of which were included in the
agenda packet. The purpose of today’s discussion was to determine if the draft recommendations
were ready to forward to the City Council as a recommendation from the full commission.
Mr. Yeiter listed the attachments to the agenda item summary (AIS):
• A—Subcommittee Findings.
• B—Subcommittee Proposed Program Menu.
• C—Subcommittee White Paper
• D—Staff Notes and Observations.
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• E—December 14, 2005 City Council Minutes.
• F—Email on Opportunity Siting.
Mr. Yeiter said that neither zoning changes nor Metro Plan amendments were proposed for the
identified sites. He stated that several tasks had been identified by the subcommittee for
consideration by the commission:
• Opportunity Site Identification including:
o Outreach and education.
o Prepare preliminary maps for public review.
o Conduct feasibility study.
o Create prototype alternative path process for Opportunity Siting implementation.
• Develop infill/refill compatibility standards.
• Develop population forecasting criteria.
• Expand prototype alternate path review program.
Mr. Yeiter stated that if the commission agreed with the recommended approach, the information
would be refined for Council consideration and staff would provide estimates for costs and time
to complete the tasks.
Mr. Duncan opened the floor to discussion encouraging questions from commissioners who had
not been on the subcommittee to enable them to be “up to speed” with the subcommittee
members.
Ms. Muir noted the five specific questions listed in the AIS that the subcommittee emphasized the
need for feedback on from the full commission.
Mr. Carroll asked when the subcommittee next planned to meet, what time context the
subcommittee anticipated, and if the discussion would address the five questions in a big picture
manner first or if it would consider the details of the individual questions first.
Mr. Belcher said he hoped the commission would leave today’s meeting with a document that
was ready to go to Council because there was some concern that the document could be placed
before Council in time to influence this year’s budget. He said some refinement may or may be
necessary before a meeting with the Council.
Mr. Duncan asserted that the intent was to use the session with the City Council to further fine
tune some of the elements of the document to ensure that it met the Council’s direction.
Mr. Belcher advised the Planning Commission that he knew that one City Councilor had
instituted the procedure for the Council to vote to have a work session that did not come from city
the city manager or the mayor.
Mr. Lawless expressed concerns about the overall menu, tasks, and the potential timing and
sequencing of the tasks. He said a lengthy and arduous process had been built into the menu
tasks, and no where early in the process was there specific action that provided for protection of
neighborhoods and how an opportunity site would be defined.
Mr. Lawless reported that he had met with Councilor Bettman, who had expressed concern about
finding a couple of ways to address fundamental issues of not eroding existing, well established
neighborhoods and to achieve a couple of wins in terms of how an opportunity site could be
densely developed. These actions would provide examples of how the overall process could be
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successful. Mr. Lawless opined that the overall process of combining all of the elements as
described along with all of the technical aspects of the process would create a long, complex
process could result in another report that got dusty and had an insignificant impact on a hopeful
outcome.
Mr. Lawless said he wanted to have a discussion about the philosophical approach change that
provided some small initial successes while concurrently “grinding through” the total process.
Mr. Hledik stated that the subcommittee’s intent was to try take what the City Council asked the
Planning Commission to do in identifying opportunity sites recognizing that it would take
neighborhood involvement early in the process to identify those sites, and continued
neighborhood involvement throughout the development process. He said the number and location
of sites had yet to be identified, and it was unknown if these identified sites would satisfy at least
of some the Council’s densification objectives, or if a large gap would have to be resolved.
Mr. Hledik asserted that the menu approach, although lengthy and costly, would provide the City
Council another opportunity to look at the components that had been presented to the Planning
Commission to address, those being:
• Identify opportunity sites.
• Discuss infill compatibility.
• Discuss future population and how it would be allocated.
The commission could then ask the Council which components it wanted addressed immediately,
which components the Council was willing to fund, and which components the Council wished to
defer.
Mr. Lawless suggested that there were components of the menu items that could be broken down
into smaller tasks that could become pilot projects, while more complex opportunity sites were
being identified.
Mr. Duncan explained that as the subcommittee reviewed the Council’s motions, the
subcommittee realized one of the difficulties encountered in developing the menu was how
encompassing the work was. He added he supported the concept of doing a small project to
achieve an early success. He added that determining a methodology for identifying those small
projects posed other challenges.
Mr. Duncan opined that the intent had not been to identify all possible opportunity sites, but
rather to begin to find areas where such sites could be identified. Hopefully, the market and the
neighborhoods would help identify additional sites.
Mr. Hledik said that the subcommittee intended to seek initial sites that had some chance of
success based largely on neighborhood acceptance and market feasibility. He did not wish to get
into a refinement plan mode, with a plan that quickly became obsolete. He added that Councilor
Kelly was concerned that not enough sites would be initially identified.
Mr. Lawless suggested that seeking neighborhood assistance in identifying initial projects and
completion of a feasibility study were good first steps. He added that a high level of success
early in every neighborhood would be important, and suggested conducting neighborhood
charettes to solicit a broad spectrum of information.
Mr. Duncan said that the subcommittee’s intent was to establish a dynamic process that would
change as the City grew, rather than developing a plan that would sit on a shelf.
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Mr. Belcher said there was a challenge with the City Council motions, in that they were vague
and did not capture the Councilors’ intents. He added that intent of the menu developed by the
subcommittee was to identify specific tasks.
Mr. Carroll stated that the menu was a big step from the earlier drafts of the subcommittee’s
work. He asserted that rather than presenting ideas and challenges to the Council, he wanted the
Planning Commission to recommend specific ideas. He said the Planning Commission did not
need to respond in a confusing and contradictory manner to the Council’s motions. Mr. Carroll
said that Ms. Bettman’s original motion was specific in that it addressed mixed use strategies and
community support. He added it had evolved into a more confusing motion.
Mr. Carroll said if it was desirable to support the mixed use center program, it may be helpful to
link the projects.
Mr. Carroll stated that he had carefully reviewed the AIS on Opportunity Siting. He doubted that
the commission would be able to get through all of the material to satisfy Mr. Belcher’s desire to
complete the review process today, although he was willing to try do to so.
Mr. Carroll said it would be easy to fall into the trap of thinking that the process was
comprehensive because all things related to each other, rather than being able to move forward on
something that made sense. He suggested moving forward on some segments of the MUC
planning in general. Noting Ms. Cuellar’s earlier comments on the land supply, Mr. Carroll
stated that the land supply, while it may not ultimately be at the top of the Planning
Commission’s list, it would be effected by the other actions taken by the commission.
Mr. Carroll said he wanted to scale down the menu items to make them more manageable.
Referring to Councilor Kelly’s comments, Mr. Lawless struggled with how to structure the
population allocation formula, and have a meaningful way to move the project forward, rather
than looking at the big goal of getting more people in the existing amount of land. He questioned
if tying the allocation component to earlier test experiments of the opportunity sites may
encumber the sites when attempting to assign a numeric value to the program. Mr. Lawless
asserted he would support a footnote to the City Council that trying to achieve an artificial goal
could block the first Opportunity Siting experiments.
Mr. Belcher stated that Ms. Bettman’s motion was challenging in that it contradicted what she
was now saying in proposing the Willard School site as the “poster child” for Opportunity Siting
because Willard School was not in a node.
Responding to Mr. Lawless’ concerns about assigning a numeric value for density to an area, Mr.
Belcher stated that Portland had allocated density out to the neighborhoods, directing
neighborhoods to determine how those allocations would occur.
Mr. Belcher said a prototype of Opportunity Siting could be attempted rather than trying to
identify multiple areas, particularly if public/private partnerships were formed in which the City
offered financial and regulatory incentives. Mr. Belcher stated the “catch 22” of the growth
management policies was to densify while at the same time protecting neighborhoods. He said he
was uncomfortable moving forward to protect neighborhoods without knowing there was a way
to concurrently encourage densification in the appropriate places. He said the NLC wanted
protection now. He added that although protecting neighborhoods was a daunting task, it was
easier than identifying areas where densification would occur. He said it was difficult to get
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developers to do what the Planning Commission and City Council wanted them to do.
Mr. Hledik said that densification allocation was a red flag with the NLC. The NLC was
concerned that they would be forced to absorb more people in the future. He preferred to move
forward and see what happens with Opportunity Siting, and then have a much broader discussion
about population projections. He asserted that there was a need to build trust with the community
before undertaking population studies.
Mr. Lawless stated that the intent of the motion was to increase density within the UGB, initially
within MUCs, but eventually throughout the City. He was interested in finding the shortest path
to creating projects that would develop the desired density regardless of where they go.
Furthermore, a conundrum would be created if the opportunity sites were created and the market
did not develop them.
Mr. Lawless proposed that the Planning Commission suggest that City Council find a way to
become its own developer to achieve the desired outcome if the market driven engine did not
achieve that outcome.
Mr. Belcher stated that it was not his intention to increase density citywide, noting that there were
places where densification was appropriate. He suggested looking first at arterials and collectors
because of transit and quality of life issues on those streets. He added that neighborhood
approval supported by design standards would be needed before selection occurred. Mr. Belcher
said that the current status was we were hoping that infill and the MUCs would satisfy the density
needs, but that was not occurring. The infill was creating more challenges than it was solving and
the MUCs for the most part were not working.
Mr. Hledik struggled with the alternative path concept. He asked what would happen when the
opportunity sites had been identified and they were zoned in such a manner that would not permit
a potential development from occurring. He said he viewed the alternative path concept as
working through those unidentified challenges with early neighborhood involvement in a
collaborative process. Referring to the subcommittee menu, 2.d.ii, he sought clarification on the
timing for implementation of a prototype alternative path. Identifying full implementation of the
prototype alternate path as a separate task appeared to delay the process.
Mr. Duncan replied that the intent was to start with a small project, and move forward to larger
projects as success was achieved.
Mr. Belcher suggested eliminating menu item 5, Expand Prototype “Alt Path” Review Program
if it was confusing and appeared to prolong the process.
Mr. Carroll expressed his appreciation for the subcommittee’s work, and acknowledged that there
were no bad ideas. He was concerned about how to package the proposal. He added that he also
was interested in the alternate path and determining how it fit into the big picture.
Mr. Carroll said he would be happy if Opportunity Siting was initiated outside of a MUC. He felt
strongly that the focus should be on supporting the MUC program however and wherever it
began.
Mr. Carroll said there were underlying assumptions that would be the beginning of a discussion
on addressing infill issues that he did not completely understand. The assumption that
neighborhoods would always need to be protected from infill was a naïve, optimistic view point.
He added that it did not need to be the starting point although the growth management policies
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inferred that.
Mr. Hledik left at 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Carroll was concerned about delaying infill until Opportunity Siting was completed because
of the presumed mandate to protect neighborhood character from increased density.
Neighborhood character would not necessarily change if a small number of residential units were
added to the neighborhood.
Mr. Carroll said it was not clear to him that attitudes and behavior would change if hard data was
available. Moving forward on such a large program with the assumption that the data would be
the basis on which to move forward with a new way of planning for existing neighborhoods was
not supported by experience.
Mr. Carroll was also concerned about population projections. He cited a 2001 report prepared by
ECONorthwest for the Portland area that examined the density of their centers programs. It asked
why those centers had not developed as densely as hoped. Conflicting information came from
censuses, building permit, and housing unit data, making it difficult to make firm conclusions
about the failure to achieve the desired densities. He cautioned the commission to tread lightly
when determining which population estimates to use in identifying opportunity sites.
Mr. Hudspeth asserted that the menu as presented was not ready to forward to the City Council.
He supported looking at the market and other economic factors in determining MUCs and
opportunity sites, in collaboration with developers and neighborhoods. He expressed concern that
the commission was not fully looking at all of the information that Ms. Bettman had passed on to
Mr. Lawless. Mr. Hudspeth said the commission needed to take more time before getting on the
City Council’s agenda.
In response to Mr. Duncan, Mr. Nystrom said the next time the commission was scheduled to
discuss this topic was April 24, 2006.
Mr. Duncan said the subcommittee was concerned that this year’s budget cycle would be missed
if a joint meeting with the City Council did not occur soon.
Ms. Muir explained that items were not typically scheduled for a City Council agenda until the
referring body had completed its work. She added that planning staff had included a budget
proposal for Opportunity Siting funding for the fiscal year 2007 (FY07) budget that would be
released by City Manager Dennis Taylor on April 24, 2006.
Mr. Duncan said he heard from the commissioners that additional discussion was needed before
moving forward with a recommendation to the City Council. Furthermore, he wanted staff to
proceed with scheduling a joint meeting with the Council.
In response to a question from Mr. Belcher, Ms. Muir said she needed all of the commissioners to
feel comfortable that the proposal was ready to move forward on a consensus basis. She added
that it was necessary to have a product to move forward to the council prior to scheduling.
Following a brief discussion, the commissioners decided to review the Suggested Program Menu
item by item.
1. Planning Commission approval of program
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Mr. Yeiter said this item may not need to go the City Council.
2. Opportunity Sites Identification
Mr. Belcher suggested taking the following to the City Council.
Identification of a prototype process that focused on development and evaluation of
one or two sites, and separating the identification process into two options.
A process that included outreach and consensus building with the neighborhoods.
A process focused on city, neighborhood and developer efforts to identify one or two
sites that would be appropriate for development.
Mr. Duncan proposed not limiting the options to one or two, since there were some areas of the
City that were more likely to have some success. He added identification of the options should
happen quickly.
Mr. Lawless said his priorities were identifying and prioritizing a couple of options immediately.
Secondly, he suggested establishing an ongoing process of identifying opportunity sites. He was
opposed to doing an across the board identification of all opportunity sites.
Mr. Carroll concurred with Mr. Lawless. Furthermore, it was important to determine how to
interact with neighbors and neighborhood associations. He asserted that neighborhood
associations should not be the major contact point. Experience had demonstrated that when it
came to land use and neighborhoods, the neighborhood associations should be the City’s partner
in helping to develop the program for the city as a whole, but neighbors who were most
immediately impacted were the people who participated at a high level. He emphasized that he
did not like the citywide approach without communication tools in place.
Mr. Duncan said it was imperative to identify those sites that had a high probability of success for
the initial work. He added that the list of sites should not be static, but able to be expanded as
suitable sites were identified.
Mr. Carroll recommended identifying several study areas opposed to sites.
Ms. Muir left at 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Sullivan asked if the using feasibility and market analysis fit with Mr. Lawless’ suggestion.
Mr. Lawless said the initial sites needed to contain a wide variety of resources that would be
appealing to the market, real estate, neighbors and other stakeholders, to enable identification of
the most likely candidates.
Mr. Belcher said it was not necessary to craft the final product today. Rather, the commission
should focus on developing concepts to take to the Council. The Council could make a decision
about opportunity sites or opportunity areas.
Mr. Lawless opined that asking the Council to make a decision about opportunity sites or
opportunity areas would not correctly inform the Council of the commission’s collective intent.
Mr. Duncan concurred with Mr. Lawless in that he did not want the proposal to be too vague.
In response to Mr. Hudspeth, Mr. Nystrom opined that it would be helpful to offer a preferred
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approach when both talking with Council buddies and when taking the issue to the full Council.
He said it would be helpful for the Council to hear the Commission’s desire to have some quick,
small successes.
Mr. Belcher suggested forwarding a menu options with an indication of the commission’s
preference, in that he did not feel that the commission would reach consensus on any of them. He
added that the commission could not afford to talk about this for another year.
Mr. Belcher suggested that menu items 2.a. Outreach and Education and 2.b Prepare
preliminary maps for public review, supported by 2.c Feasibility Study could be combined into
an inclusive process, with minimal criteria.
Mr. Sullivan said turning the process into a study would diminish the quick start theory for the
project.
Mr. Duncan said it was important to determine which limited areas would receive a concentrated
effort from which to solicit consensus from the stakeholders in identifying areas that would
receive more in depth study.
Mr. Belcher said he would add including minimal criteria that needed to be met before a site
would be accepted for inclusion in the project.
Mr. Lawless said that 2.a., 2.b. and 2.c. above needed to be applied to both the quick start process
and the long term process, albeit in different doses.
Mr. Carroll asserted that 2.c., Feasibility Study, could be part of the package or could be deleted.
He asked why 2.c.ii., Identify sites or type of sites that would be most successful, least
successful for high density infill/refill and mixed use would be included. He said the
commission’s role was to address City policies and procedures, and how to enable development.
The commission could not impact whether a developer thought a particular site was going to be
successful. It was not necessary for the commission to address each and every opportunity that
came along.
Mr. Duncan viewed Opportunity Siting as a long range planning tool. In the beginning, it was
necessary to identify sites that were likely to succeed, and to be able to show that more marginal
sites could ultimately be successful. It was important to identify those marginal sites for long
term development when the market was ready for them.
Mr. Carroll did not want the commission to get vested in something outside its purview that
would feel like a failure.
Mr. Sullivan proposed that a market study could be undertaken for presentation back to the
market that would provide information to help stimulate interest in various properties.
Mr. Duncan added that market study information would be helpful when working with neighbors
to demonstrate how the market viewed their neighborhood.
Referring to menu item 3. Infill/refill Compatibility Standards, Mr. Lawless stated this was a
crucial item in that it suggested efforts to be undertaken to find ways to protect and identify the
kind of infill that if done properly, would be welcomed in a neighborhood. He added that there
were mechanisms and procedures that needed review to ensure that there were acceptable
standards and parameters that make infill acceptable to a neighborhood. He emphasized this
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needed to happen up front and parallel with other activities when seeking sites outside of
established neighborhoods to achieve desired density. He strongly recommended that this
process begin as soon as possible to define the character, scale and other issues, acknowledging
that infill will occur, within the context and confines defined by the process for each of the
neighborhoods.
Mr. Duncan said protecting neighborhoods was very important. At the same time, neighborhoods
needed to be viewed as places where some density could be located.
In response to Mr. Belcher, Mr. Carroll said that item 3. Infill/refill Compatibility Standards was
too big to be part of the menu, while at the same time, it was not big enough to capture what
needed to be accomplished. He sensed infill/refill could get lost in the menu. He stated that the
text of item 3 made assumptions that he was not comfortable forwarding to the City Council.
Mr. Belcher cautioned that this was a starting place, and the final product had not been defined.
He added that item 3 had strong advocates in the community and on the City Council, and it
would not get lost in the shuffle. He was concerned that it would get more emphasis than the
others.
Mr. Carroll said getting less meant linking neighborhood character with population estimates.
Population density and neighborhood character were related but separate issues
Mr. Duncan said the subcommittee desired a discussion on the part of the City Council
recognizing that infill/refill and population estimates were separate but co-mingled issues that
would provide better direction for the commission. He added that it was unclear to him which
issue was more important to the council, and it was important to get that clarification from the
council before the commission could proceed. Mr. Duncan said determining the level of intensity
for each neighborhood was as important as identifying infill standards and forecasting population.
Mr. Lawless said a statement to council might say In order to achieve the growth management
goal of protecting neighborhoods these processes in neighborhoods have to occur. The Planning
Commission could recommend that the City Council identify a funding source to proceed with
the work.
Mr. Carroll asserted that he did not like item 3 in the menu because he was not sure how it related
to Opportunity Siting.
Mr. Belcher said the commission had been directed to put item 3 in the menu, and did not have a
choice.
Mr. Duncan stated that menu item 3 was included in a list of chores from the City Council. He
added that the Planning Commission had been told by the City Council at one point that
Opportunity Siting was going to be a high priority. Now there was movement to have infill
compatibility to be a high priority.
Mr. Carroll said that the menu was about the work plan. He was concerned that the Planning
Commission did not look at this as a high priority item. It had been developed as a subcommittee
draft, and therefore did not have the status of requiring in depth commission review.
Mr. Duncan said it was not the subcommittee’s intent. He said the draft had been developed with
item 2. Opportunity Sites Identification, 3. Infill/refill Compatibility Standards, and 4.
Population Forecasting being equally important.
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In response to Mr. Belcher, Mr. Carroll said although he did not have a concrete suggestion, he
wanted to express his concern that the commission was offering up to the council a plate full of
planning goodies that did not necessarily directly relate to the motion put before the commission.
He iterated that the subcommittee’s work was good and needed to be addressed. However, this
did not satisfy his understanding of what needed to be done for City Council approval of a budget
and work plan to move Opportunity Siting forward in support of the MUC program.
Mr. Lawless offered an alternative perspective, stating that this component of Infill/refill
Compatibility Standards did have a component in Opportunity Siting in terms of modifying the
density within MUCs, either increasing or decreasing the amount of density that would be
allowed.
Mr. Belcher moved to extend the meeting time 15 minutes. The motion died for lack of a second.
Mr. Belcher sought clarification from Mr. Carroll on language that he could support.
Mr. Carroll asked if Mr. Belcher could acknowledge that what Mr. Carroll was saying had some
logic and sense. Mr. Carroll felt as though his feet were being held to the fire over a
subcommittee draft about what was important to a City Council motion. He added that the
burden of proof was not his to say the proposed language did not make sense. He asserted that he
was attempting to offer his input to improve the draft. He said, as he had repeatedly, that
Opportunity Siting went from a tool to support MUCs to a document that raised many major
concerns about planning in Eugene. Mr. Carroll said this was not necessarily the most effective
way to go about it. He said while he did not want to hold up a decision, he felt strongly that the
document needed a more thorough vetting.
Mr. Belcher explained his understanding of the commission’s charge to address inappropriate
infill and redevelopment. He felt that there were proposals that addressed the council’s direction.
As he understood Mr. Carroll’s position, Mr. Carroll was not proposing removal of item 3.
Infill/refill Compatibility Standards, or anything else, but Mr. Carroll was proposing that the
work occur next year. He did not understand Mr. Carroll’s position.
Mr. Carroll reiterated that he felt as though he were being pushed into a corner, that if he was not
happy with the proposal, he had no choice but to suggest removal of item 3. He added that he
was not prepared to make that suggestion, but rather he wanted to more know about it.
Mr. Duncan said the subcommittee felt that Opportunity Siting was a tool that had been difficult
to describe. He said the commission had also been asked to address neighborhood infill
compatibility. He added that he struggled with the population issue and was unsure how it fit into
the Opportunity Siting discussion, but it was a task that had been handed to the commission.
Mr. Duncan stated that his intent of the menu was to show the City Council that the commission
had discussions of how the three major points would be addressed. As with any planning process,
the individual elements were interconnected. He asserted that he was not saying infill was part of
Opportunity Siting, but rather was asking the City Council to give the Planning Commission the
go ahead to do an additional work project that was not currently on the commission’s work plan
at the level currently discussed by the City Council. Mr. Duncan said his intent was to bring
those issues that were major projects to the City Council to be able to address funding issues.
Mr. Carroll suggested removing infill from the menu and taking it to the City Council as a
separate item since the role of the subcommittee was to look at Opportunity Siting. He added that
the commissioners could further discuss infill at its next meeting and with their Council buddies.
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Mr. Lawless asked if Mr. Carroll’s intent was to include infill/refill compatibility standards in the
current work plan, or if he saw it as a separate work plan item. Mr. Lawless suggested that it
could be taken to the City Council as two separate issues for the council to discuss and determine
whether the items should stand alone or be consolidated.
Mr. Lawless asked staff to develop a summary of today’s discussion for commissioners to take to
their Council buddies this week.
Mr. Hudspeth agreed with Mr. Lawless, noting that the summary would be very helpful.
Noting the time, Mr. Nystrom reviewed the Planning Commission meeting schedule, and
suggested that the commission could have a special meeting on April 17, 2006. Following a brief
discussion, Mr. Nystrom said staff would poll the commissioners regarding an April 17 meeting.
Referring to menu item 4.Population Forecasting a. Create future population targets, Mr.
Belcher suggested changing the language to read: a. Create future population assessment
points.
Mr. Duncan said his Council buddy had proposed the motion and he wanted to get clarity from
his buddy.
III. ITEMS FROM COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Other Items from Staff
Mr. Yeiter reported that the City Council would discuss the City’s future participation in Region
2050 at its 5:30 p.m. work session tonight.
In response to a question from Mr. Hudspeth who asked if there was a sense that the Council
would withdraw from Region 2050 participation, Mr. Yeiter said this was the first time the
Council had addressed the question.
B. Other Items from Commission
There were no other items from the Commission.
Mr. Duncan adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 1:40 p.m.
(Recorded by Linda Henry)
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Agenda
AGENDA
EUGENE PLANNING COMMISSION
Atrium Building, Sloat Room, 99 West 10th Avenue, Eugene, OR 97401
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MONDAY, APRIL 10, 2006 – REGULAR MEETING
(11:30 a.m.)
11:30 a.m. PUBLIC COMMENT
The Planning Commission reserves 10 minutes at the beginning of this meeting for public
comment. The public may comment on any matter, except for items scheduled for public
hearing or public hearing items for which the record has already closed. Generally, the
time limit for public comment is three minutes; however, the Planning Commission reserves
the option to reduce the time allowed each speaker based on the number of people requesting to
speak.
11:40 a.m. I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of January 23, 2006
11:50 a.m. II. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION: OPPORTUNITY SITING
Staff: Kurt Yeiter, 682-8379
1:15 p.m. III. ITEMS FROM COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Other Items from Staff
B. Other Items from Commission
Commissioners: Jon Belcher, Phillip Carroll, Mitzi Colbath, President; Rick Duncan, Vice President;
Randy Hledik, Phillip Hudspeth, John Lawless
Ex officio member: Mike Sullivan, Division Manager, Community Development
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