City Commission ISBA Conflict Resolution Negotiations
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · September 20, 2017
Minutes
APPROVED:10/19/2017
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City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
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Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Minutes - Final*
City Commission
Wednesday, September 20, 2017 5:30PM Eustis Community Center, 601 Northshore Dr., Eustis
ISBA CONFLICT RESOLUTION NEGOTIATIONS
JOINT PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF EUSTIS, CITY OF MOUNT DORA,
LAKE COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
I. Call to Order
Eustis Mayor Robert Morin called the meeting to order at 5:39p.m.
Attendance:
City of Eustis- Vice Mayor Marie Aliberti, Commissioner Linda Durham Bob, Commissioner Carta
Gnann-Thompson, and Mayor Robert Morin
Lake County - District 1 Commissioner Timothy Sullivan, District 2 Commissioner Sean Parks,
District 3 Commissioner Wendy Breeden, District 4 Commissioner Leslie Campione and District 5
Commissioner Josh Blake
City of Mount Dora - District 1 Laurie Tillett, District 2 Cart Rolfson, District 3 John Tucker; District 4
Marc Crail, At-Large Mark Slaby, At-Large Cathy Hoescht and Mayor Nick Giron
Also in attendance:
Eustis City Manager Ronald Neibert, Eustis City Attorney Derek Schroth, Eustis City Clerk Mary
Montez, Lake County Manager Jeff Cole, Lake County Attorney Melanie Marsh, Lake County
Recording Clerk Angela Herald, Mount Dora City Manager Robin Hayes, Mount Dora City Attorney
Jennifer D. Cockcrott and Mount Dora City Clerk Gwen Keogh-Jahns
II. Explanation of Joint Public Meeting Process: Derek Schroth, Eustis City Attorney
Derek Schroth, Eustis City Attorney, explained the joint public meeting process under the Florida
Governmental Conflict Resolution Act and reviewed a timeline of the conflict assessment process
to date. He stated the purpose of the joint public meeting was for the following: 1) The parties to
consider the issues between them; 2) The parties to try to seek an agreement; and 3) If an
agreement is not reached, the scheduling of additional meetings of either the entities or their
designees. He stated that if the negotiations are unsuccessful, then the process may go to formal
mediation which would be held in a public meeting.
III. Statement of Issues to be Addressed as Identified in Conflict Assessment Phase: Ron
Neibert, City Manager, City of Eustis
Ronald Neibert, Eustis City Manager; read into the record the issues to be addressed as identified in
the conflict assessment phase as follows: 1) Eustis initiating resolution to Lake County and Mount
Dora, via Resolution No. 16-27 - General contract terms of the ISBA agreement and the proposed
ISBA boundaries; 2) Mount Dora responding Resolution No. 2016-23 - proposed Mount Dora ISBA
boundary; and 3) Lake County responding Resolution No. 2016-57 identified three areas for
discussion: a) Expansion areas create enclaves, are not compact, and in some cases do not directly
touch any portion of the current planning boundaries of the City of Eustis; b) Residents residing in
the expansion areas failed to receive actual notice that the expansion areas may be and/or are
subject to annexation; and c) Negotiations need to be had as to identification of the local expansion
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government to be responsible for the delivery or funding of the following seNices within the area:
road ownership, construction and maintenance; stormwater management and drainage; utilities; and
solid waste.
Both the City of Mount Dora and the Lake County Commission agreed that those were the issues
previously identified with Lake County Commissioner Campione noting that there are probably
additional issues as well.
IV. Presentation of Current Negotiating Positions:
a. City of Eustis
b. City of Mount Dora
c. Lake County Board of County Commissioners
Mr Neibert stated that the City of Eustis' current negotiating proposal includes the elimination of the
three subdivisions from annexation through the ISBA process. He indicated on the map those
parcels that adjoin both the Eustis proposed ISBA and the Mount Dora joint planning area that
would be eliminated from Eustis' ISBA proposal.
Nick Girone, Mount Dora Mayor, stated that Mount Dora has no change to its current position.
Mr Neibert confirmed that Mount Dora's current negotiating position remains the same as originally
proposed and questioned whether or not Mount Dora was willing to negotiate any boundary
adjustments.
Mr Girone stated they would have to take back to their City Council any proposals for
consideration.
V. Negotiating Discussion to Seek Agreement
Tim Sullivan, Lake County Commission Chair, asked if the elimination of the three subdivisions
was a permanent elimination with Mr Neibert indicating it would be permanent under the ISBA and
JPA boundaries. Mr Sullivan indicated he would prefer to wait to respond until the Commission
can discuss that proposal.
Commissioner Campione asked if Eustis annexed other property under the ISBA that was
adjacent to one of the subdivisions could the City then annex the subdivision.
Mr Neibert explained that any annexations outside the JPA or ISBA would require the County's
approval.
Commissioner Campione expressed opposition to "leapfrog" annexation stating it is not good
planning and does not meet the requirements of the Florida Growth Management Act. She stated
she is not in favor of ISBAs as a general concept other than for assisting with annexation of
enclaves.
Mr Neibert noted that the County has approved seven other JSBAs and questioned why the
County now does not want to approve an ISBA with the City of Eustis.
Commissioner Campione responded those involved different situations and cited issues that have
arisen with the other ISBAs. She specifically noted issues with road maintenance and confusion
with Jaw enforcement response.
Mr Neibert responded that the statutory wording is very specific that when a City annexes 51% of
road frontage, then the City takes over maintenance responsibility. He added that normal
annexations can have the same issue.
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Lake County Commissioner Parks expressed agreement with Commissioner Campione and cited his
experience with the first ISBA in the county with Montverde. He asked if in the future there would
still be the possibility of annexing the three subdivisions.
Mr. Neibert responded that, absent the ISBA, the City would still have the right to annex those
properties under the developer agreements.
Commissioner Campione stated there may be issues with enforcement of those agreements due to
some of the properties being closed on prior to approval of the agreements. She cited a court case
that questions the validity of developer agreements. She emphasized the City should leave the
choice to the residents in the future.
Discussion was held regarding the validity of the developer agreements, the uncertainty regarding
annexation for the residents of the subdivisions and the ability of the County to change land use and
zoning to an area contiguous to the City without input from the City and its residents.
Further discussion was held regarding the possibility of the City and County enacting a new Joint
Planning Area (JPA) agreement with Mr. Neibert noting that 13 years previous Lake County removed
property from the Eustis JPA and gave it to Mount Dora, in effect blocking the City of Eustis from
doing normal annexations.
Lake County Commissioner Blake expressed opposition to forced annexation as well as
noncontiguous annexation.
Mr. Neibert stated the City of Eustis has proposed a compact boundary. The City has demonstrated
that it has the ability and will provide quality services to those areas. He added that previously
some County Commissioners only expressed concern about the annexation of the three
subdivisions; therefore, the City acquiesced to those concerns and eliminated those subdivisions.
Now the City is being shut out completely for any growth.
Commissioner Parks commented on issues with the City and County residents not listening to one
another and emphasized that all of the agencies present serve everyone.
Lake County Commissioner Breeden stated her opposition to ISBAs in general adding she was not
against Eustis personally.
Eustis Commissioner Bob expressed her disappointment in the meeting stating that people are not
going to change and have made up their minds.
Commissioner Campione commented on the issue being polarizing and stated her hope that the
proposal would be dropped. She asked that the petition be withdrawn and suggested reconsidering
a joint planning area.
Mayor Morin agreed with looking at a new planning area. He commented that Eustis is not looking
to cherry pick and explained that when developers approach the City wanting to develop, the City
wants to be able to help. He stated there should be some respect for what the City has done and
emphasized the City needs to have a commitment in order to provide the services. He stated there
was previously a gentleman's agreement that everything north of Hwy. 441 would go into Eustis.
He added the City does not want to annex anyone that doesn't want to be a part of Eustis; however,
the City needs to be able to provide services and homes to those who need it. He stated that this
Commission can't promise that a future Commission won't annex an area. The City had
developer's agreements in place and now those are in question. He stated that the cities and
County need to talk about some type of JPA that Eustis, Mount Dora and the County can agree to
that will benefit both Eustis and Mount Dora.
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Mr Neibert stated that the meetings are tied to developing an ISBA agreement. He noted that
Mount Dora has stated their intent and asked if the County Commission could agree to any
properties within the proposed area. He explained that the City has three projects that want to
develop and the City has invested $7 million in the infrastructure for that area. He asked if there
was any interest by the County Commission to give the City an ISBA anywhere in that area.
Commissioner Sullivan responded that, if the three existing neighborhoods were excluded, he would
be willing to consider; however, he did not see a consensus of the County Commission to do so. He
cited issues with other communities' ISBAs which has resulted in the County's reluctance to enact
any new ISBAs. He noted that none of those subdivisions would be there if Eustis hadn't provided
the utilities.
Further discussion was held with the following issues noted: 1) distance of properties from current
City limits; 2) opposition to forced annexations; 3) any annexations would have to be approved by
the County; 4) the City requiring annexation in the future prior to providing utilities; 5) having future
joint meetings regarding a joint planning agreement; 6) the need for all cities and counties to have ad
valorem revenues in order to provide services; 7) the ability for cities to provide a 25% surcharge for
utilities to areas outside city limits; B) the Mount Dora ISBA proposal; 9) another municipality desiring
the same areas as Eustis and wanting a larger area than what Eustis has proposed; 10) the Mount
Plymouth/Sorrento area; 11) Mount Dora having withdrawn its ISBA proposal and enacting an
automatic aid agreement; 12) Mount Dora working on their current JPA and innovation district; 13)
Mount Dora's concern with the Eustis ISBA boundaries is that it would box in Mount Dora so they
cannot grow; and 14) whether or not Mount Dora would be agreeable to a new joint planning area
agreement.
Mr Neibert confirmed that there was no interest on the majority of the Commission for an ISBA with
Eustis. He asked if there was any interest on the County Commission for an expanded JPA
boundary similar to the proposed ISBA boundaries.
Commissioner Campione and Mount Dora City Manager Robin Hayes agreed they would not agree
to just exchanging the ISBA boundary for a JPA boundary.
Mr Neibert stated that if there is willingness on both the County and Mount Dora's part to consider
an expansion of Eustis' JPA boundaries, then he could recommend to the Eustis Commission that
they withdraw their ISBA petition.
Discussion was held regarding whether or not Mount Dora and the County Commission were willing
to consider an expanded JPA boundary for the City of Eustis with Mr Neibert stating that there are
three governmental entities that want to derive benefit from the same area and have identified it as
an area for growth. He emphasized the need to come to an agreement for an equitable split of the
area for growth.
MOTION
Commissioner Bob moved to end the discussions on the ISBA. Motion failed for Jack of a second.
Mount Dora Councilman Slaby stated it was not a fair statement that Mount Dora is unwilling to
negotiate.
Mayor Girone clarified that any action would need to be taken back to the City Council for
consideration.
Mr Neibert stated that unless all of the parties are willing to discuss negotiations, then there is no
further discussion . He asked the Eustis Commissioners, given that the County Commission is not
willing to negotiate an ISBA agreement, does the City wish to proceed to the mediation process
which would entail the three parties agreeing on a federal mediator He stated he has been told by
a mediator that the process is only good if all of the parties are willing to negotiate. He asked if the
Commission wished to proceed to the next step.
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Commissioner Bob stated the City should drop all ISBA and JPA negotiations. She noted the City
Manager has worked hard on the issue but she was not in favor of going further.
Eustis Commissioner Gnann-Thompson stated her belief that the ISBA is off the table and they
need to talk about a JPA. She emphasized the need for all three entities to work with each other; if
don 't, their communities are going to hurt. She commented on the history of Cassia and Eustis
working together and Mount Dora working with Sorrento and Mt. Plymouth. She stated all of the
people in those areas need to have a voice .
Eustis Vice Mayor Aliberti stated that the Commission looks to the County Commission as leaders.
She noted that the City had come back and taken the annexation of the subdivisions off the table.
She suggested that the County come up with something that works for everyone as that is what
leaders do. She stated she was for trying to work something out.
MOTION
Mayor Morin moved to end the ISBA conflict negotiation process. Commissioner Gnann-
Thompson seconded the motion.
On a roll call vote, the motion passed 4 to 0.
VI. Public Comment
Due to the withdrawal of the ISBA proposal, it was agreed by all three entities that the floor would
not be opened to public comment.
VII. Scheduling of Further Meetings of the Parties
None to be scheduled.
VIII. Adjournment- 7:07p.m.
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Eustis
ISBA CONFLICT RESOLUTION NEGOTIATIONS
JOINT PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF EUSTIS, CITY OF MOUNT DORA,
LAKE COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
I. Call to Order
II. Explanation of Joint Public Meeting Process: Derek Schroth, Eustis City Attorney
III. Statement of Issues to be Addressed as Identified in Conflict Assessment Phase: Ron
Neibert, City Manager, City of Eustis
IV. Presentation of Current Negotiating Positions:
a. City of Eustis
b. City of Mount Dora
c. Lake County Board of County Commissioners
V. Negotiating Discussion to Seek Agreement
VI. Public Comment
VII. Scheduling of Further Meetings of the Parties
VIII. Adjournment
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