City Commission Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · June 1, 2017
Minutes
APPROVED:6f15/2017
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Minutes - Final*
City Commission
Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:00PM City Hall
INVOCATION: Pastor Renee Hill, Win.l.Ministries
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Bob
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Morin - 6:03 p.m.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
Present: 5- Commissioner Linda Bob; Commissioner Carla Gnann-Thompsen ; Commissioner Anthony
Sabatini; Vice-Mayor Marie Aliberti; and Mayor Robert Morin
I. AGENDA UPDATE
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
16378 May 18, 2017 - City Commission Workshop
May 18, 2017- Regular City Commission Meeting
A motion was made by Commissioner Sabatini, seconded by Commissioner
Gnann-Thompson, to approve the Minutes. The motion PASSED by an unanimous vote.
III. AUDIENCE TO BE HEARD
Steve Jedziniak, Golden Corral manager, addressed the Commission regarding their Camp Corral
program which sends Wounded Warrior's children to camp. He explained it costs $500 per child to
send them to camp.
Mayor Morin invited him to provide a presentation at the next meeting with Ron Neibert, City
Manager, suggesting that Mr Jedziniak provide him with the dvd and he would forward it to the
Commissioners.
Renee Hill, pastor for Win . 1. Ministries, addressed the Commission regarding the Cardinal Cove
pathway. She indicated there was a plaque which honored those individuals who helped construct
the pathway and it is no longer there.
Mr Neibert indicated he would find out and contact her
IV. CONSENT AGENDA
16377 Reappointment to Police Pension Board of Trustees - John Sommer
Commissioner Sabatini asked to have future appointees and reappointments attend the meeting so
the Commission can meet them and ask questions if they so desire.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to ask Committee candidates to
attend the Commission meeting.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Sabatini, seconded by Commissioner Bob, to Approve
the Consent Agenda. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Commissioner Bob; Commissioner Gnann-Thompsen; Commissioner Sabatini ; Vice-Mayor
Aliberti ; and Mayor Morin
V. ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS & QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
FIRST READING
16375 Ordinance No. 17-04: Amendment to Chapter 34, Article Ill, Eustis Code of
Ordinances, adding Section 34-104 "Fertilizer Use"
Derek Schroth, City Attorney, read Ordinance No. 17-04 by title on first reading: An Ordinance of the
City Commission of the City of Eustis, Florida; amending the Eustis Code of Ordinances, Chapter
34, Article Ill, to add a new Section 34-104, entitled "Fertilizer Use"; adopting the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection Model Ordinance for Florida-Friendly fertilizer use on urban
landscapes; providing for severability; providing for filing with the Department of State; and providing
an effective date.
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director in the absence of the Development Services Director, explained
the need for the new fertilizer use regulations. He explained the City falls within two bmaps and
has three impaired water bodies; therefore, the state is requiring the City to adopt the model
fertilizer ordinance no later than July 1, 2017. He provided an overview of the requirements limiting
fertilizer use.
Mr. Schroth opened the public hearing at 6:16p.m. There being no public comment, the hearing
was closed at 6:16p.m.
A motion was made by Vice-Mayor Aliberti, seconded by Commissioner Gnann-Thompson,
to Approve Ordinance No. 17-04 on First Reading. The motion carried by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Commissioner Bob; Commissioner Gnann-Thompsen; Commissioner Sabatini ;
Vice-Mayor Aliberti ; and Mayor Morin
16376 Ordinance No. 17-05: Conditional Use Permit to Allow an Agricultural Use
(Keeping Horses for Personal/Private Use) in a Suburban Residential Land
Use District
Mr. Schroth read Ordinance No. 17-05 by title on first reading: An Ordinance of the City
Commission of the City of Eustis, Lake County, Florida, approving a Conditional Use Permit for an
agricultural use to allow keeping of horses for personal/private use in a Suburban Residential Land
Use District on approximately 70. 15 acres located between Pine Meadows Golf Course Road and
Orange Avenue.
Roland Magyar, Senior Planner, reviewed the requested Conditional Use Permit, location of the
subject property, site information, density analysis, horse density, need for additional buildings with
additional setback requirements, and environmental impacts. He stated staff's recommendation
for approval with the following conditions: 1) horses accessory to SFR; 2) stocking rates of 1. 5
acres for first horse, then 1 acre per horse; 3) non-residential structures require 100 ft. setback; 4)
Must follow best management practices with evidence of consultation with local Agricultural
Extension Agent; 5) No other livestock or domestic breeding; and 6) Waste disposal follows best
management practices.
The Commission confirmed the size of the smallest lot was 2. 9 acres with nine homes proposed for
the development and Mr. Magyar explained the home must be built prior to a horse being installed
on the property.
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Mr Schroth opened the public hearing at 6:27p.m.
Brenda Rogers asked about the wildlife survey noting there are gopher tortoises on the property and
commented on the number of entry points.
Tim Hatcher expressed concern regarding the need for adequate fencing to keep the horses in place
with Mr Magyar stating that fencing will be required.
The Commission questioned whether or not further development could occur north of the site with Mr
Magyar indicating the sod farm property could be redeveloped as could smaller parcels if they were
combined.
Joe Ramirez asked about the utility easement, whether there would be a type of buffer zone and
commented on the wildlife in the area. The Commission suggested he contact Mr Magyar for
additional information.
Dora Molniques commented on issues in her neighborhood with pedophiles and homeless people
dwelling on the site in question. She expressed support for the development as long as it did not
include mobile homes.
Mr Magyar explained that mobile homes are not allowed in the City except in mobile home parks;
however, modular homes are allowed under state law. He stated the applicant is Sand Dollar LLC.
He stated that the type of home would be determined by the individual home owners as they build on
the sites.
The Commission discussed the need to make sure developments improve the local property values
with a note being made that the decision before the Commission was whether or not to allow horses.
There being no further public comment, the hearing was closed at 6:37p.m.
A motion was made by Commissioner Sabatini, seconded by Commissioner Bob, to Approve
Ordinance No. 17-05 on First Reading. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Commissioner Bob; Commissioner Gnann-Thompsen; Commissioner Sabatini;
Vice-Mayor Aliberti; and Mayor Morin
16374 Ordinance No. 17-06: Revising the holding period of utility deposits and
revising the service charge for returned checks
Mr Schroth read Ordinance No. 17-06 by title on first reading: An Ordinance of the City Commission
of the City of Eustis, Lake County, Florida; amending Chapter 94-262(c) Utilities Minimum Deposits,
providing a revision to the holding period for utility deposits and Chapter 94-262(f) providing a
revision to service charges for returned checks; providing severability; providing an effective date.
Colleen Scott, Finance Director, explained the request to reduce the holding period for utility
deposits from 36 months to 12 months and to increase the returned check (NSF) charges.
Mr Schroth opened the public hearing at 6:40p.m.
Tim Hatcher noted he is not a resident but is a City utility customer He asked if a check were
bounced due to identity theft if the City would return the fees and Ms. Scott indicated they would.
There being no further public comment, the hearing was closed at 6:42p.m.
A motion was made by Commissioner Bob, seconded by Commissioner Gnann-Thompson,
to Approve Ordinance No. 17-06 on First Reading. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Commissioner Bob; Commissioner Gnann-Thompsen; Commissioner Sabatini;
Vice-Mayor Aliberti ; and Mayor Morin
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16379 Ordinance No. 17-07: Amending Chapter 34 - Environment to Create Article
V- Noise
Mr. Schroth read Ordinance No. 17-07 by title on first reading: An Ordinance of the City Commission
of the City of Eustis, Lake County, Florida; amending Chapter 34- Environment; adding Article V-
Noise; providing for codification; providing an effective date.
Mr. Neibert noted the Commission had previously reviewed the proposed ordinance both in a regular
meeting and a workshop. He stated the only requested change was the additional wording
prohibiting jakebraking.
Mr. Schroth opened the public hearing at 6:44p.m. There being no public comment, the hearing
was closed at 6:44p.m.
A motion was made by Vice-Mayor Aliberti, seconded by Commissioner Sabatini, to Approve
Ordinance No. 17-07 on First Reading. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Commissioner Bob; Commissioner Gnann-Thompsen; Commissioner Sabatini;
Vice-Mayor Aliberti ; and Mayor Morin
VI. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Commissioner Gnann-Thompson apologized for being on her cell and explained she had just
been informed that her aunt had passed away. She asked about the wildlife on the previously
discussed property with Mr. Neibert indicating that the state would require them to meet certain
criteria.
Commissioner Sabatini commented on the City's sign ordinance and cited the possible need to
make the sign ordinance more business friendly.
Commissioner Neibert noted staff had previously reviewed with the Commission the sign
ordinance in April along with some proposed fee changes and a formal ordinance would be
brought forward in July.
Commissioner Bob asked to have the attorney review the duties of a Commissioner. She noted
her spouse accompanies her to activities but he stays in the audience and does not join her when
she attends an event as a Commissioner.
VII. COMMENTS
City Commission
Commissioner Gnann-Thompson announced that the pool and splash pad are open, cited the days
and times and announced the fee is $3 per person.
Commissioner Sabatini noted there would be an educational talk on June 16th at the Trout Lake
Nature Center regarding the hybrid treatment technology program.
Joan Bryant, Trout Lake Nature Center; announced there would be two other speakers that night.
Commissioner Bob announced there would be a "Coffee with a Cop" at Denny's on June 13th. She
commented on the police department and the need to support them.
Vice Mayor Aliberti announced the First Friday event featuring a Phantasmagoria presentation who
would also appear at the Bay St. Theatre on Saturday.
Mayor Morin announced the Team Jay event being held at the Fire station on Saturday, June 1(Jih,
with Fire Chief Mike Swanson explaining the fundraiser is for the son of a firefighter and he is not
doing well with his health. It was announced that there is also a Go Fund Me page.
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City Manager
Mr. Neibert reminded the Commission of the workshop the following Thursday at 5:30p.m.
regarding the organization support grant applications and the ISBA negotiations.
City Attorney
Mr. Schroth explained that verbal communications between him and the Commissioners are
privileged; however, written communication that does not deal with litigation are not. He indicated
he keeps verbal communications privileged unless they disclose information that would be
detrimental to the organization. He cited the City's Rules of Order and commented on whether or
not the rest of the Commission can sanction another Commissioner. He stated that is not currently
in the Rules of Order but could be added at a future meeting if the Commission desires.
Commissioner Bob explained her belief that when the Commission is at an event, then it should be
just the Commission at the dais, and it should not include the families.
Mayor Morin acknowledged he had his family in the front with him at the Memorial Day event. He
noted the number of vacant seats and commented on the lack of participation in this year's event.
He encouraged the rest of the Commissioners to come up to the front and be recognized and
included.
Commissioner Sabatini noted how many of the Commissioners are new and their inability to
communicate between meetings. He commented on the need to have time to get used to each
other and their expectations.
Vice Mayor Aliberti noted she anived late to the event and willingly stood in the back due to that.
Commissioner Bob explained in the past it was always the Commission that represented the City
with family members being in the audience.
Commissioner Sabatini commented on Sunshine Law restrictions. He suggested having a short
workshop prior to the next meeting to discuss communication with Mr. Neibert indicating he would
put on the regular agenda a discussion under "other business" to review public appearance
protocol.
Mr. Schroth then requested confirmation from the Commission that they want him to provide a legal
opinion regarding a panhandling ordinance.
The Commission discussed various homeless issues, the possibility of having a presentation done
by The Open Door, waiting until the Police Chief and City Manager report there is a problem, the
cost of having staff conduct research and develop policy, problems regarding homeless affecting the
downtown businesses, having key groups report on problems they have experienced, possibly
having the City Attorney provide a synopsis of what could and couldn't be done, and issues in the
past where northern cities provided their homeless residents with bus tickets to Florida.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to not have the City Attorney proceed with an
analysis of legal options regarding panhandling.
Mr. Schroth reported that the Leonard Wheeler appeal was dismissed. He noted Mr. Wheeler's
email which stated his intent to personally sue the Commissioners. He stated that if a
Commissioner gets served, they should provide the documents to the City Clerk or City Manager.
He added that the City indemnifies the Commissioners.
Mr. Schroth then asked for direction regarding the response to the Freedom from Religion letter.
He stated his intent was to reply simply stating that Commissioner Sabatini has the same freedom
of speech they do. He reviewed the constitutional issues cited in the letter and his planned
response to each.
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The Commission discussed the issues cited in the letter, Commissioner Sabatini's Facebook pages,
the possibility of litigation and the expense, allowing atheists and others to provide in vocations, and
the possibility of changing to having a moment of silence.
Mr Schroth assured the Commission that legally the meeting was fine. He explained that the
actual meeting doesn 't start until after the invocation. He suggested only addressing the first three
points in the response.
The Commission discussed not allowing more than one invocation at a meeting and whether or not
the City should respond to the letter with Mr Schroth indicating that should the organization decide
to sue, a judge could question why the City did not respond to the letter He recommended briefly
responding and explaining that the City's policy is based on case law and stating that the actions
taken at the meeting were constitutional.
The Commission then discussed amending the policy to limit the number of invocations.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to have the City Manager send out a copy
of the invocation policy to the Commissioners and then place it on the next agenda for discussion.
Mayor
Mayor Morin noted the Memorial Day event held on Monday. He expressed appreciation for how
the City has shown appreciation for its veterans and specifically noted the recent Vietnam Wall
Memorial. He thanked everyone involved with that event.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT- 7:42 p.m.
City Clerk
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Agenda
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Agenda
City Commission
Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:00 PM City Hall
INVOCATION: Pastor Renee Hill, Win.1.Ministries
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Bob
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Morin
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
I. AGENDA UPDATE
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
16378 May 18, 2017 - City Commission Workshop
May 18, 2017 - Regular City Commission Meeting
III. AUDIENCE TO BE HEARD
IV. CONSENT AGENDA
16377 Reappointment to Police Pension Board of Trustees - John
Sommer
V. ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS & QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
FIRST READING
16375 Ordinance No. 17-04: Amendment to Chapter 34, Article III, Eustis
Code of Ordinances, adding Section 34-104 "Fertilizer Use"
16376 Ordinance No. 17-05: Conditional Use Permit to Allow an
Agricultural Use (Keeping Horses for Personal/Private Use) in a
Suburban Residential Land Use District
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16374 Ordinance No. 17-06: Revising the holding period of utility deposits
and revising the service charge for returned checks
16379 Ordinance No. 17-07: Amending Chapter 34 - Environment to
Create Article V - Noise
VI. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
VII. COMMENTS
City Commission
City Manager
City Attorney
Mayor
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
This Agenda is provided to the Commission only as a guide, and in no way limits their consideration to the items contained hereon. The Commission has
the sole right to determine those items they will discuss, consider, act upon, or fail to act upon. Changes or amendments to this Agenda may occur at any
time prior to, or during the scheduled meeting. It is recommended that if you have an interest in the meeting, you make every attempt to attend the
meeting. This Agenda is provided only as a courtesy, and such provision in no way infers or conveys that the Agenda appearing here is, or will be the
Agenda considered at the meeting.
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"Any invocation that may be offered before the official start of the Commission meeting shall be the
voluntary offering of a private citizen, to and for the benefit of the Commission and the public. The views
or beliefs expressed by the invocation speaker have not been previously reviewed or approved by the
Commission, and the Commission is not allowed by law to endorse the religious beliefs or views of this, or
any other speaker.
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