City Commission Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · February 16, 2023
Minutes
APPROVED 4/06/2023
MINUTES
City Commission Meeting
6:00 PM - Thursday, February 16, 2023 - City Hall
INVOCATION: PASTOR RENEE HILL, WIN 1 MINISTRIES
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: COMMISSIONER HAWKINS
CALL TO ORDER: 6:20 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGE OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily Lee, Commissioner Gary
Ashcraft, Commissioner Nan Cobb and Mayor Michael Holland
1. AGENDA UPDATE: NONE
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2.1 Approval of Minutes
January 5, 2023 City Commission Meeting
January 19, 2023 City Commission Meeting
A motion was made to approve the Minutes as submitted. Motion made by
Commissioner Hawkins, Seconded by Vice Mayor Lee. The motion passed by the
following vote:
Voting Yea: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner Ashcraft,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
3. PRESENTATIONS
3.1 Eustis Transmission Project: Nancy Dodd. Duke Energy
Nancy Dodd and Chris Tietig from Duke Energy reviewed the Transmission Reliability
Project to be completed within the City of Eustis. Ms. Dodd provided a summary of the
project and explained it would run for approximately four miles from the Dona Vista
substation to the substation off of Lemon. She indicated the project would include pole
replacements and some construction in the downtown area. She explained it actually
would be broken into two projects known as Eustis to Dona Vista and Eustis to Eustis
South. She stated that the transmission line currently located in Ferran Park would be
completely removed from the park; however, the distribution lines would still be
there. She assured the Commission that the project would not be worked on during the
2024 Georgefest.
Ms. Dodd commented on the work being currently done and provided details pertaining
to both portions of the project. She thanked Public Works for their assistance with the
project. She discussed the timeline beginning in Summer of 2022 through Spring
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2024. She noted that the project will impact Downtown Eustis and Ferran Park. She
explained that the project will help to harden the infrastructure against storms. She
explained how they will be distributing information regarding the project. She added
that aesthetic work will also be done to make the project look better. She emphasized
that the project will have an impact on Ferran Park.
The Commission asked about a possible conflict with the FOOT project in 2024 with Ms.
Dodd indicating they have been in contact with them. She stated they would stay in
contact with FOOT to try and coordinate their projects.
The Commission asked if the work in Ferran Park will be scheduled during their "low
season" with Ms. Dodd indicating they would try to avoid the major events in Ferran
Park.
Vice Mayor Lee asked about Duke Energy's tree trimming process with Ms. Dobb
explaining that they are reviewed in a cycle and are examined by an arborist. She
added that if there are a number of outages and issues on a line then a tree may be cut
back more significantly.
4. APPOINTMENTS
4.1 Re-Appointment to Code Enforcement Board - Stephanie L. Carder
A motion was made to reappoint Stephanie Carder to the Code Enforcement
Board. Motion made by Vice Mayor Lee, Seconded by Commissioner Hawkins. Motion
passed by the following vote:
Voting Yea: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner Ashcraft,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
5. AUDIENCE TO BE HEARD
Martin Gill commented on the situation where the home next to his caught fire and the
City granted them permission to live in the camper on the property. He complained
about the noise and other issues with the situation and stated they are working late in
the evening. He asked that they reconsider the decision. He indicated he has
contacted an attorney regarding the situation.
Mayor Holland asked Mr. Carrino to reach out to Mr. Gill to discuss the issue and report
back to the Commission.
Brian Broomfield commented on DEi (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) defined as a
conceptual framework that "promotes the fair treatment and full participation of all
people especially in the workplace including populations who have been historically
under-represented or subject to discrimination due to their background, identity,
disability, etc." He explained the differences between diversity, equity and
inclusion. He stated he is a proud Eustis resident and of being represented by the City's
Commission and cited its diversity. He complimented the City and Commission on the
diversity and thanked them.
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Pastor Richard King spoke about the open-mindedness of Chief of Police Craig Capri
and his efforts to engage the community and make Eustis safe. He announced they are
jointly partnering to present a community safety and engagement forum on April 15 at
the Eustis Women's Club, 9 am - noon . He explained the purpose of the program to
develop a plan to deal with crime, even before it happens, within the City. He stated
that Dr. Randall Nelson would be the facilitator.
Donna Manning, resident of Sharps Park, expressed concern regarding their monthly
utility rate increases. She stated that the rate has been increased each month since
December. She indicated that each tenant is now paying $85 per month for water. She
stated they are charging a water utility usage fee and a sewer utility usage fee. She
cited the increases over the past several months.
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6. CONSENT AGENDA
6.1 Resolution Number 23-19: Forfeited Funds Expenditure
A motion was made to approve the Consent Agenda as submitted. Motion made by
Commissioner Cobb, Seconded by Commissioner Hawkins. Motion passed by the
following vote:
Voting Yea: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner Ashcraft,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
7. ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS & QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
7.1 FIRST READING
Ordinance Number 23-04: Amending Fire Pension
Sasha Garcia, City Attorney, read Ordinance Number 23-04 by title on first reading: An
Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Eustis, Lake County, Florida, amending
Chapter 70, Pensions and Retirement, Article Ill, Municipal Firefighters' Pension and
Retirement System, Sections 70-62(b), 70-67(a) and 70-70-71(b)(1), of the Code of
Ordinances of the City of Eustis; providing for codification; providing for severability of
provisions; repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith and providing an effective date.
Mike Sheppard, Finance Director, explained the changes to the code under the
ordinance. He stated the actuary will be preparing the impact statement based on the
ordinance and that will be sent to the State for review. Once it comes back from the
State, it will be brought back on second reading.
Attorney Garcia opened the public hearing at 6:48 p.m. There being no public
comment, the hearing was closed at 6:48 p.m.
A motion was made to approve Ordinance 23-04 on first reading. Motion made by
Commissioner Cobb, Seconded by Commissioner Ashcraft. Motion passed on the
following vote:
Voting Yea: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner Ashcraft,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
8. OTHER BUSINESS
8.1 Discussion: Revised Florida Department of Transportation Local Funding
Agreement for S.R.-19
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, reviewed the project and noted the workshop on the
project held in December 2022. He stated that DOT is done with the plans and they are
beginning to draft the local funding agreement. He explained one of their questions
dealt with the use of stamped asphalt. He explained that DOT does not use brick
pavers or stamped asphalt for their work; therefore, they would be looking to the City of
Eustis to pick up the cost of two items.
Mr. Gierok indicated that the first item deals with the existing bricks on Magnolia. He
explained that part of that will have to be brought up due to the intersections being
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raised at Magnolia and both Grove and Bay Street. He indicated that the grade has to
be brought back a little bit. DOT has proposed to just use asphalt. They have provided
a price to remove the bricks and then replace them after the grading of $21,000 for both
intersections. He indicated that is a competitive price.
Mr. Gierok then stated the second item is to do the stamped asphalt on the
crosswalks. He explained that when they did the stormwater project, they redid some of
the asphalt with stamped asphalt crosswalks and indicated they only lasted about five
years and then faded out. He stated that, if the City wants to use the stamped asphalt,
they would have to pay the cost. He indicated that they would probably have to redo
them every five to seven years. He stated it would involve the northbound crosswalks
at Orange, Magnolia, McDonald, Clifford and Gottsche and southbound would be
Orange, Magnolia, McDonald and Clifford. He added the price to do that would be
$222,495, and indicated that, if they decide to do that, he would have to include in the
capital budget a five-year line item to do it again.
Mr. Gierok then stated, that to cover the cost, he has a line item in 2024-25 to do the
smart signals for Orange Avenue. However, those signals are going to be updated in
the DOT scope of work at no cost to the City. The funds are in the same budget year
and could be utilized to do the initial stamped asphalt with additional funding left over as
well as the brick. He estimated a total cost of $243,000 and there is $400,000 budgeted
for the smart signals. He explained the only alternative would be regular asphalt as
DOT does not allow brick in their crosswalks.
The Commission asked if heavy traffic and equipment would shorten the life of the
stamped asphalt with Mr. Gierok indicating heavy traffic definitely wears on asphalt. He
added that he did not think there would be a significant increase in trips to create more
wear.
The Commission discussed whether or not to include the stamped asphalt in the
agreement due to the short timeframe it would be viable. Mr. Gierok explained that as it
aged the pigment would fade but the asphalt would remain intact. Discussion was held
regarding carrying forward the remaining funding for replacement when needed with Mr.
Gierok explaining that they would go out for an RFQ when it needs replacement.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to include the stamped asphalt
in the agreement with FOOT.
8.2 Discussion of Chamber of Commerce Lease
Mr. Carrino reviewed the various maintenance issues with 1 W. Orange Avenue. He
indicated that the floor is failing and cited issues with dampness from the lake. He
noted that there are areas of the building that have limited use. He explained that the
Chamber has requested that the City reduce the rent from $800 to $400 per month due
to the issue. He stated that the City is having a structural engineer evaluate the building.
He indicated that the City previously received a cost estimate of $180,000 to improve
the building; however, at that time staff determined that was cost prohibitive. He stated
the question is whether they are willing to consider a reduction in the rent while the City
is hiring the structural engineer and developing options for remediating the
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problems. He cited information included in the packet and reviewed statistics of the
building and lease agreement. He added that, if they are willing to reduce the rent, staff
will bring back a resolution amending the lease agreement.
The Commission asked if there was a previous reduction in the rent with Mr. Carrino
indicating that the initial rent amount was below market value. He stated that the
current rent is approximately 33 cents per sq. ft. or just under $2 per sq ft. annually
which is significantly below market for lakefront space.
Mayor Holland confirmed that Commissioner Cobb would have to recuse herself due to
her husband serving as president of the Chamber of Commerce.
Commissioner Cobb commented that to her the decision is about the building itself and
whether to keep it. She indicated that the building otherwise needs to be
maintained. She emphasized that the City needs to decide how much money they are
willing to put into the building. She cited the possibility of the City helping them to
relocate. She suggested they could share space with the Historical Society who does
not pay any rent.
The Commission discussed the need to decide regarding the building itself, whether or
not the rent could be reduced and whether or not the Historic Museum would be a good
interim location for the Chamber.
Discussion was also held regarding whether there is another location the Chamber
could rent, not necessarily from the City, that would keep them downtown.
Mr. Carrino asked Rick Gierok to comment on how long it would take to get a structural
engineer and have the building evaluated.
Mr. Gierok reported that in 2012 when LEMA contracted for use of the building it was
determined that the building had sunk seven inches over the length of the building. He
explained that, at that time, the oak floors were installed and other steps were taken to
reduce the water infiltration issues. He stated additional flooring was installed in
2018/2019. He indicated that there is a maximum of two feet between the water level
and the finished floor. He explained that the concrete acts like a wick and brings up the
moisture. He then explained staff obtained an estimate from Evergreen for
approximately $183,000 to install a floating floor and waterproof everything. He
indicated it was brought to the Commission for discussion only and it was determined to
just patch the flooring with the assistance of the Chamber. He questioned whether or
not the building is worth $183,000.
Mr. Gierok stated he is now reaching out to Universal Engineering with the idea of
installing pizometers around the building to determine where the water is coming
from. He stated that if the problem is the lake level then there is nothing the City can do
to resolve the issue. He suggested they may be able to provide a short term fix for less
money. He indicated that it will take a few months to get it done and obtain a
report. He noted that the $183,000 estimate is five years old and prices have gone up
since then.
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Commissioner Ashcraft asked about the original lease and whether or not the rent was
set low due to the condition of the building.
Mr. Carrino responded that the City looked at the Chamber as a partner in economic
development and they felt it was a good idea to have them in the downtown.
The Commission questioned why they now believe $400 is a reasonable rent.
Tammi Roundtree, Executive Director, explained they felt that if they have to relocate
they need to save as much money as possible for that purpose. She stated that Alpha
Foundations did examine the building but did not provide a full report. They indicated
the building is not sinking into the lake as there are no cracks in the stucco. She
commented that, when they moved in , they saw the underflooring is all patchwork and is
sitting up on girders and it is now falling between the girders. She expressed support
for them staying in the downtown area. She admitted they have been looking at other
locations but there is little available. She confirmed they are using the front portion of
the building for storage with the offices toward the lake.
The Commission commented on additional issues with the water level and questioned
how much the study will cost.
Mr. Gierok estimated the study would cost approximately $7,000 to $8,000.
Stephanie Carder, Chamber Board member, questioned if there was an irrigation leak
under building with Ms. Roundtree explaining what occurred. She noted that where it is
wet is the front of the building.
Further discussion was held regarding the flooring and water issues.
The Commission discussed whether it was doable to relocate the Chamber to the
museum . It was questioned as to whether or not the City owns the museum contents
and how long it would take to do.
Mr. Carrino and Mr. Gierok reported a contractor was currently working on the roof due
to hurricane damage. It was noted that the roof is scheduled for replacement in two
years.
The Commission questioned what it would cost to repair the Chamber building with Mr.
Gierok estimating at least $280,000.
The Commission further discussed whether or not to reduce the rent as requested.
It was suggested they consider reducing the rent to $550 for the next year. It was also
suggested the City could move forward with building a new public safety building with
available federal grant money and the Chamber could then be relocated to the old
police department.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to bring back a resolution
reducing the rent to $550 per month. It was also a consensus to not proceed with a
study on the 1 W. Orange Avenue building .
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CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for the Mayor and City Manager
to meet with the Historical Museum to discuss sharing that building with the Chamber
temporarily.
Mr. Carrino confirmed that staff would begin moving forward with grant applications and
plans for construction of a public safety facility.
9. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Cobb thanked everyone who assisted with the clean-up. She expressed
concern regarding civic apathy and lack of civic pride. She expressed anticipation in
participating in the African American Festival banquet and parade. She also
commented on the upcoming Georgefest activities.
Commissioner Ashcraft expressed excitement about the upcoming activities and noted
that he heard Georgefest advertised on the radio.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the cleanup and asked if additional "no littering"
signs could be installed. He thanked Rick Gierok and his team for all of their work. He
then commented on the funeral for homeless resident Clyde and cited the number of
firemen in attendance. He noted that County Commissioner Campione also assisted
with the cleanup. He thanked everyone that will be attending the African American
Heritage Festival banquet and parade.
Vice Mayor Lee asked if they could help improve community pride by putting up signs
encouraging people to not litter. She emphasized the amount of trash picked up during
the clean up. She then commented on the number of cars being parked on Kurt Street
and questioned what can be done.
Mr. Carrino indicated the business is in Lake County but the right-of-way is City. He
commented on police efforts to resolve the issue.
10. COMMENTS
10.1 City Manager
Mr. Carrino related an anecdote with a small boy questioning why the Commissioners
and City staff were doing the clean up. He indicated they have to work to change the
mindset of the community.
Commissioner Hawkins gave kudos to Police Chief Craig Capri regarding the officers
being located at the schools. He stated that school administrators have indicated that
the City's officers have more connection to the students than the Sheriff's officers that
have been at the schools.
Mr. Carrino noted he sent the Commission and leadership team a summary from the
retreat with actionable items. He thanked the Commission for their support and kind
words at the retreat. He announced that the City will have a booth at the African
American Heritage Festival and that HR would be there with information regarding job
openings as well as at Georgefest.
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Mr. Carrino thanked staff, the Commission and everyone else for their participation and
work on the Georgefest events. He announced he would be on vacation in mid-March
for spring break and requested that Bill Howe act as Acting City Manager during his
absence.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for Bill Howe to serve as Acting
City Manager.
10.2 City Attorney
Attorney Garcia had no comments.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the status of letters the Commission had requested
regarding individuals being very accusatorial about the Commission supposedly
accepting money from developers.
Attorney Garcia indicated it was one letter and she would confirm it had been done and,
if not, make sure it would be sent out as soon as possible.
10.3 Mayor
Mayor Holland encouraged everyone to come out for the African American Heritage
Festival and cited the Georgefest activities. He encouraged that everyone attending
bring a non-perishable food item for distribution to Lake Cares food pantry.
11. ADJOURNMENT: 7:54 P.M.
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CHRISTINE HALLORAN MICHAEL L. HOLLAND
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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