City Commission Retreat Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · January 9, 2021
Minutes
APPROVED:2/18/2021
MINUTES
City Commission Workshop
9:00 AM - Saturday, January 9, 2021 - Eustis Memorial Library
CALL TO ORDER: 9:42 A.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily
Lee, Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith and Mayor Michael L. Holland
1. WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION
1.1 Discussion with County Commission Chair Sean Parks
Mayor Holland introduced Lake County Commission Chair Sean Parks and asked
staff to introduce themselves.
Chairman Parks complimented the City on its library and commented on the
importance of the City and County cooperation particularly in light of the current
national situation. He expressed his value of the County's relationship with the
City. He stated he would relay the message to staff and the other County
Commissioners on the positive meeting he had with the Eustis Commission. He
cited various important issues for the City and County to work on together
including the following: 1) attainable housing; 2) roads; and 3) quality of life issues
such as trails. He noted this is the year to begin a funding plan for the trails.
Chairman Parks then commented on County Commission budget concerns and
their efforts to move to two and five-year budget plans. He noted that the new
County Manager Alan Rosen would begin work February 8th. He then reported on
the vaccination efforts and explained the Florida Dept. of Health actually has
control over that process. He indicated they will be going to a reservation system.
Mayor Holland asked Mr. Parks about the City possibly purchasing the Lake
County Fairgrounds and asked if the rest of the Commission is in favor of that. All
but Commissioner LeHeup-Smith expressed support for the City obtaining the
fairground property and Chairman Parks expressed agreement with entering into
negotiations.
The Commission discussed how the property might be utilized including the
possibility of locating the community center there and using the property for
recreation programming.
The Commission discussed the County Attorney's comments at the previous
Commission meeting and questioned whether or not the entire County
Commission has authorized her to speak on their behalf and whether or not the
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County Commission is actually willing to work with the City on the annexation
issue.
Chairman Parks indicated she has been authorized in that she and staff were
directed to attend the meetings. He acknowledged that Eustis has not been
treated as fairly as other cities. He further indicated that the negotiations should
not have been stalled and stated his intent to make sure negotiations are moving
forward.
Ron Neibert, City Manager, asked if County staff has kept the Commission
apprised of the negotiations with Mr. Parks indicating they have not been provided
a briefing since he has been Chair.
Mr. Neibert explained there have been two negotiation sessions since then. He
cited various issues that County staff has presented including requiring the City to
assess the residents of the annexed properties for fire service. He expressed
concern regarding the expectation that those residents would be triple taxed for
fire service which should be under the auspices of the mutual aid agreement. He
further commented on County staff indicating they didn't want to have the fire
response charged on a per call basis claim ing that it was too hard to track.
Chairman Sparks responded that tracking charges on a per call basis should not
be too hard and stated he would address the issue with County staff.
Discussion was held regarding the joint planning area negotiations with the
Commission noting that the County staff went from a short list of negotiation items
to a much longer list. Discussion was also held regarding what was more
effective , City and County staff working together or the two Commissions meeting
together. Comments were made regarding some County Commissioners stating
that it might be easier to go to a lawsuit.
Mr. Neibert expressed the City's concern regarding the County's dedication of the
park property to a private organization in order to stop the City's annexation and
noted the State's concern regarding the dedication of the park property which was
in direct violation of their grant agreement with the State.
The Commission questioned whether the County is sending a court reporter to the
City's meetings with Mr. Parks stating he is unaware of that occurring . It was
requested that all City and County Commissioners be copied on the emails and
information sent between the City and County staff. The Commission also
commented on how the rules keep changing so the City can't perform to
expectations and the difficulties that creates for City staff.
Discussion was held regarding the need for Mr. Parks and the rest of the County
Commission to be kept informed about the negotiations as they proceed with Mr.
Parks commenting on the lack of awareness by the County of whether or not the
property could be developed at the 5 units per acre and the need for the County
Commissioners to be more informed about the City's form-based code.
Mr. Neibert reported that the City has negotiated with the developers to agree to a
maximum of three units per gross acre wh ich may resolve most of the issues. He
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commented on County and resident expectations that Thrill Hill Road be improved
immediately with the first development rather than incrementally as usually occurs.
Mr. Parks commented on it not being fair to expect Eustis to do more than other
cities are expected to do with Mr. Neibert stating the City's willingness to comply
with the normal procedures.
The Commission noted that Thrill Hill Road should have been improved ten years
ago and questioned what were the County's plans for improving that road without
the developments. The Commission also expressed concern regarding the
County Commissioners going out and meeting with the residents making it difficult
for the City to meet with the residents and reach an agreement.
Chairman Parks agreed that creates issues noting it has occurred to him as well.
He assured the Commission that he would not do that. He indicated he would be
happy to facilitate a meeting between the community and the City Commission.
The Commission also expressed concern regarding a County staff member taking
it upon themselves to contact residents regarding the City's plans. They
expressed concern that Chairman Parks is not being kept informed and County
staff may not be giving him full information.
The Commission cited the need for there to be a level playing field for all of the
cities. It was noted that negotiations are being held with the City of Mount Dora
being allowed to do things that Eustis is not being allowed. It was noted that Ms.
Marsh did say that the County and City staff were working well together which
gave both the residents and the City staff hope.
The Commission thanked Chairman Parks for coming indicating he was invited to
attend out of respect for him.
Chairman Parks confirmed the direction from the meeting with Mayor Holland
citing the need to schedule a meeting with Chairman Parks, Mayor Holland and
the City Manager to negotiate on the fairgrounds and for Chairman Parks to be
more involved with the joint planning negotiations.
Mr. Neibert reported on the most recent negotiations. He stated the County staff
kept pushing for a full ISBA and stated his feeling that the intent was just to stall
the negotiations. He indicated they finally pinned down the three main issues -
density, fire service and Thrill Hill Road .
Chairman Parks suggested scheduling a meeting between him, Mayor Holland
and Mr. Neibert to discuss the approach to be used for the joint planning area
negotiations.
The Commission asked which Covid 19 vaccinations will be provided with
Chairman Parks indicating he is unaware of the Johnson & Johnson but that the
County would be provided primarily Moderna and Pfizer. He stated this next week
the entire state of Florida will only receive 286,000 vaccines. He commented on
how Lake County had initially planned to do the 3,000 first responders first and
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then end of January start the 65 and up. He stated Lake County will not be using
E-vite as there was some type of information breach with that.
Mr. Neibert noted that the City will have designated computers at the library for
members of the public to use to come in and do their reservation for the vaccines.
Chairman Parks indicated he would try to create a schedule to come regularly to
City Commission meetings. He expressed enthusiasm for working with the City on
the issues. He left the meeting at 10:33 a.m.
Recess: 10:33 a.m. Reconvene: 10:44 a.m.
1.2 Review of annexation policies
Lori Barnes , Development Services Director, provided an overview of the
annexation incentive program . She stated that, when initiated , it was marketed to
those property owners living in the enclaves . She provided a breakdown of results
for the first three years stating that the combined total to date is 43 properties
totaling 438.85 acres with additional ad valorem revenue to the City of $57,000
dollars. She noted an additional 13 properties are in the process for year three
totaling 399.86 acres. She provided an updated map showing the locations of the
annexed properties.
Ms. Barnes then stated that the program will expire April 4, 2021 and indicated it
would need to be approved for continuation prior to expiration and asked for
direction from the Commission .
CONSENSUS : It was a consensus of the Commission for the program to be
continued .
Mr. Neibert cited properties north of 44 and to the northwest of the City. He
commented on the ability of the City to force annexation of some of the properties
under existing developer agreements. He asked if the Commission was willing to
proceed.
Ms. Barnes reviewed which subdivisions are ripe for annexation and Mr. Neibert
suggested that, if the Commission is willing to proceed , staff could prepare
information on the financial impact on the City.
The Commission discussed the need to focus on the annexation of enclaves and
then proceed with the other annexations and the effect on fire service.
CONSENSUS: It was consensus of the Commission for staff to prepare the
financial impact information .
Ms. Barnes explained that, in the past, staff has provided information to the
enclave property owners regarding the benefits of annexation . She noted state
statute does have a provision for enclaves of less than 11 O acres to be annexed
under an interlocal agreement with the county. She noted that Lake County had
previously suggested the City concentrate on annexation of the enclaves;
however, when staff approached them about the interlocal agreement they were
rebuffed .
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Ms. Barnes suggested that, when the City proceeds with any annexations, that the
residents be provided prior notice before proceeding.
Commissioners Cobb and LeHeup-Smith suggested holding community meetings.
Mr. Neibert noted that those whose homes are valued at more than $150,000 will
see a net increase; however, they will also realize an improvement in their
insurance rates due to a higher ISO rating for the City's fire service.
Mayor Holland commented on a meeting held some years ago with the County
where cities were told they needed to do infill annexation to make the public safety
systems function efficiently.
1.3 Review of Strategic Plan and City Charter
Mr. Neibert explained the need to review the Strategic Plan and City Charter.
The Commission discussed increasing the City's candidate application fee with
City Clerk Mary Montez suggesting she determine what other cities are charging
and Mr. Neibert suggesting staff research and see where the City would rank at
$150.
The Commission then discussed amending the Charter to allow the swearing in of
Commissioners right after the election with Mr. Neibert explaining it would require
a referendum and asking if there would be a primary in 2022.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to have the City Clerk
research the minutes for previous discussion with the possibility of a referendum
on the primary so any amendment would be effective for the November 2022
election.
Review of Strategic Plan
Mr. Neibert noted the date on the plan stating that the goals are still relevant. He
explained the Capital Improvement Plan is based on projects to accomplish the
goals of the strategic plan. He asked if they would like a workshop to fully review
the plan. He cited Goal #3, Actions (k) with the goal of staff compensation being in
the top quartile. He explained the inability of the City to meet that goal. He
indicated he did not intend to get into a deep discussion and asked if they have
comments. He commented on the possibility of holding a workshop and then
updating the plan. He indicated a number of the actions have been accomplished.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus to hold a workshop to conduct a thorough
review of the Strategic Plan.
1.4 Discussion regarding Comprehensive Plan amendments
Mr. Neibert explained Ms. Barnes would be presenting various amendments that
staff is recommending due to regulations that were enacted in the past to limit
growth .
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Ms. Barnes stated she was presenting some comprehensive plan amendments
that staff feels are necessary to help the City move forward. She explained that
the purpose of the future land use element and adopted future land use map
series discusses strategies to build long-term community value, discourage urban
sprawl and insure that public facilities and services are provided in the most cost
effective and efficient manner. She cited the 19 maps in the future land use map
series and stated that Maps #1 (future land use map) and #19 are the only maps
designated as regulatory in nature with the others being strictly for reference
purposes.
Ms. Barnes cited areas on the future land use map circled in blue which
represented properties with non-conforming uses or non-conforming lot sizes.
She reported staff has reviewed the industrial land use areas and determined the
City is deficient in adequate industrial land use properties. She cited properties
that were developed as industrial and historically used as industrial; however, at
some time, probably during the 2008 comprehensive plan update, were somehow
assigned a Suburban Residential designation. She explained this results in
nonconforming uses with the property owners not able to put any other use on the
site. She explained the form-based code is designed to allow for mixed use and
explained the relevant area on the map.
CONSENSUS: The Commission discussed the problem with a consensus for staff
to review the nonconforming uses with the intent of resolving the issues.
Ms. Barnes then discussed issues with non-conforming lot sizes. She explained
there are pre-platted areas with properties as narrow as 33 feet wide. She stated
those are designated as Suburban Residential which has a minimum lot width
requirement of 55 feet. She acknowledged that there is a provision that, if the lot
was platted prior to 2008, they can use any lot type designation regardless of lot
size. She recommended that specific lot types be designated for those smaller
lots which will make it clear it is a buildable lot. She reviewed what lot types would
be usable.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to bring back a
plan amendment to address the issue.
Ms. Barnes then discussed the Urban Residential Land use. She commented on
the need to revise the definition which currently states it is intended for higher
densities near the downtown core or to change the designations for properties
outside the downtown area designated Urban Residential. She indicated they
could be changed to Mixed Use Residential for those non-downtown areas
currently designated Urban Residential. She recommended changing the
definition. She stated that where there is existing commercial or mixed use are
perfect areas to have a higher density residential.
CONSENSUS: Following discussion, it was a consensus of the Commission for
staff to proceed with the definition change.
Ms. Barnes then discussed the Agricultural future land use definition. She
explained the use of the designation and cited areas within the City with that
designation . She stated that those properties do not meet the definition of
agricultural and are nonconforming . She explained that the City is not intended to
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be agricultural but is intended to be urban. She stated Eustis is the only city with
an agricultural zoning or land use designation. She commented on how the
designation is handled in other area cities. She stated staff does not believe there
is a good reason to maintain the Agricultural designation and noted two green
areas on the land use map that are designated Conservation.
Mr. Neibert indicated that changing the land use would not change the property
owners' agricultural exemption with Ms. Barnes indicating that is based on the
actual agricultural use not on the land use designation. She explained how the
agricultural exemption is granted through the Property Appraiser's office.
Tom Carrino, Economic Development Director, cited the City's property that is
designated Mixed Commercial/Residential; however, the City has an agricultural
exemption due to the property being used for cattle.
The Commission asked how the City would address property use changes with
Ms. Barnes explaining that for any map designation staff could individually notify
any affected property owners or the City could hold a community meeting.
CONSENSUS: Following discussion, it was a consensus of the Commission to
eliminate the agricultural land use designation.
Ms. Barnes then identified properties designated as Rural Residential at one
dwelling unit per acre. She reviewed the description and use of the Rural
Residential designation and cited areas specified in the definition. She
commented on the East Crooked Lake area noting that many of the properties are
not one acre although designated Rural Residential. She explained that the
comprehensive plan states that the Suburban Residential accommodates the
majority of the residential development in the City at up to 5 du/acre. She
indicated that if a developer wants to develop at one unit per acre they may do so
under Suburban Residential; however, the comprehensive plan also talks about
assigning densities that provide for the provision of cost effective services. She
presented an email she sent to Tim McClendon at Lake County when they were
discussing an ISBA. She commented on the different densities that are
appropriate for cities versus counties. She stated that the American Planning
Association recommends that where water and sewer is lacking should be limited
to four units per acre. If there is no water or sewer but have a well and septic, you
need to have an acre. However, if you have City water but no sewer, you can go
from 1 unit per half acre to 4 units per acre dependent on the characteristics of the
site such as proximity to a water body. She emphasized that the principles of good
planning require that greater density is warranted/necessary for cost effective
provision of public services where both water and sewer are provided. She stated
that when the du/acre falls the cost per capita increases. She stated that the Rural
Residential designation is not appropriate within a municipality. She cited other
limitations within the City's code that would adequately protect the natural
resources. She indicated that if a developer wants a one unit per acre
development they can do that under SR. She stated that the Rural Residential
designation is not appropriate within the City.
Mr. Neibert commented on the unsuitability particularly in areas which are
surrounded by commercial use.
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The Commission discussed the various areas that still retain a Rural Residential
designation that are located in the City with Mr. Neibert stating it creates conflict
when the City tries to move forward with suburban growth.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to remove the Rural
Residential designation.
Recess: 12:00 p.m. Reconvene: 12:44 p.m .
Ms. Barnes reminded the Commission that the only maps that are regulatory in
nature are the joint planning area and future land use maps. She indicated that
the future land use element discusses how the City shall continue to coordinate
with Lake County regarding annexation and land use issues and shall rely upon
the joint planning area (Map #19) or its successor agreement as describing the
appropriate transition between the City's urban core and the County's rural areas.
She then presented the proposed 2025 future land use area map, included in the
comprehensive plan. She stated a prior Commission adopted a draft plan as part
of the normal planning document.
Ms. Barnes cited the yellow areas as allowing for residential development of up to
2.5 dwelling units per acre and the beige areas, which are the County's rural
transitional land use designation limit development with a planned unit
development to one unit per acre with 50% open space. She explained the
orange areas are Urban Low which, under the County's regulations, are a
maximum of four dwelling units per acre. She then stated the JPA is an agreed
upon area where public services should be provided and where the City may
annex. She explained that the County classifies much of the undeveloped,
unincorporated land in the JPA as Urban Low with an R-1 zoning (1 unit per acre)
or Rural Transition (1 unit/acre via a PUD with 50% open space). She further
stated the County defines R-1 as providing a transition between agricultural and
conservation areas and the more urban residential communities. She noted that
all of the periphery boundaries are limited to one unit per acre. She expressed
concern regarding the width of the periphery and stated the joint planning area
map does not provide opportunities for the City to grow. She cited the Florida
Statutes which state the intent to discourage the proliferation of urban sprawl and
directing density to the municipalities to reduce sprawl and protect true rural and
agricultural lands. She explained that the staff reports provided when the City
does a comprehensive plan amendment specifically address the eight indicators in
the Florida Statutes that show an amendment discourages sprawl, as well as the
12 indicators that reflect if an amendment does not discourage the proliferation of
sprawl.
Mr. Neibert explained that the word sprawl is frequently used incorrectly and
stated that low density residential developments are what are urban sprawl and
what the County is trying to encourage is sprawl.
Ms. Barnes reviewed a definition of urban sprawl and noted that the state statute
that addresses sprawl questions where is the location of utility services. She
noted the email to Tim McClendon provided to the Commission and stated that the
information being provided by the County is misleading to the public.
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The Commission questioned why the former Lake County Commission Chair
made a comment as to whether or not the City's JPA is even legal with Ms. Barnes
explaining that changes in the County's planning staff resulted in a loss of
knowledge . She stated the City knows the JPA was adopted legally and can
prove it. She further commented on the misleading information being provided to
the public.
Ms. Barnes then explained Map #19 needs to be removed from the
Comprehensive Plan and stated that there is nothing in the joint planning area
agreement that requires the maintenance of a JPA map nor in Chapter 163 of the
Florida Statutes. She provided the following alternatives: 1) Leave it as is; 2)
Remove it; 3) Prepare a Eustis visionary future land use map for the
unincorporated areas in our boundary; or 4) Negotiate with the County for a new
joint planning area map designating appropriate land uses within our joint planning
area. She recommended that the references to joint planning area be deleted
along with Map #19 and, at the Commission's direction, staff could prepare a new
visionary future land use planning area map.
The Commission discussed whether or not removing the map would help the
County with Ms. Barnes indicating omission of the map would actually help the
City. She explained that the City Commission can change its regulations at its
discretion provided they follow the required statutory notices of law and provide
consistency with the comprehensive plan .
The Commission questioned what would happen if someone asks for the JPA map
with Ms. Barnes stating the City will have its City limits map and future land use
map which shows the joint planning area boundary and shows the unincorporated
areas outside the City limits with no designations. She confirmed that removing
the map would not change the joint planning area but only removes the visionary
designations.
Mr. Neibert explained that the County is stating that the map indicates that those
areas should be low density. If the map is removed, there would no longer be that
argument. He indicated staff is not recommending actually changing the joint
planning area agreement.
Ms. Barnes stated that the future land use map would include the boundaries of
the JPA but would not show any proposed densities for properties not already in
the City. She added that the City could create a visionary map; however, the City
would not be tied to it as it would be nonregulatory.
Mr. Neibert indicated he doesn't have a problem with a visionary map as long as it
shows the City's vision not someone else's.
CONSENSUS: Discussion was held regarding eliminating the joint planning area
map with a consensus of the Commission for the JPA map to be eliminated.
Ms . Barnes noted she also has some minor language changes she would like to
include in any comprehensive plan amendment as well as some technical changes
that would be highlighted during the presentation at the Commission meeting.
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1.5 Discussion regarding funding/revenue options
Mr. Neibert stated that the City has previously discussed financial issues including
elimination of the police dispatch and implementation of a fire assessment fee. He
explained what is a fire assessment and stated it is not a tax. He indicated that it
can be included on the tax bill or it could be added to the utility bill. He explained
the differences between an assessment and a tax and explained it would
constitute a non-ad valorem revenue source, would be dependent on the cost of
services, not be based on taxable value and would broaden the tax base of those
paying for fire protection services. He further explained the methodology for
determining the amount of the assessment. He reviewed the schedule for
implementation which would require the City adopt a resolution of intent by March
1, 2021, and adoption of other required legislation so that the assessment could
be included on the November 2021 tax bill.
Mr. Neibert then commented on whether or not to charge tax exempt properties
including the possibility of charging a reduced rate. He provided a sample of other
cities' assessment programs including Fruitland Park, Leesburg, Minneola,
Montverde, Mount Dora, and Umatilla. He reviewed staff's recommendation
including $100 for residential property and 0.16 per sq. ft. for commercial property.
He stated it would generate approximately $1,000,000. He stated all of the
assessment revenue would go to the Fire Department; however, $500,000 of
general fund revenue would then be diverted to the Police/General Fund . He
indicated the Fire Dept. would realize six new paramedics and reactivate the
rescue truck for a total annual cost of $504,000. He explained it would provide
$100,000 to be applied to the pay inequities.
The Commission asked if there is an intent to lower the millage rate with Mr.
Neibert responding negatively. He indicated the City still would have a lower
functional millage rate than the other cities due to not transferring large amounts of
utility funds to underwrite the General Fund .
Further discussion was held with Mr. Neibert indicating the only way to balance the
budget is to either generate new revenues or cut expenses which results in
lowering City services. He emphasized that to do what needs to be done,
additional revenues are needed. He indicated that the end result will be six new
firefighters and higher salaries for the police department.
Discussion was held regarding increasing the millage rate versus implementing
the fire assessment fee .
The Commission asked what the cost savings would be if police dispatch was
eliminated with Mr. Neibert responding approximately $200,000.
Discussion was held regarding how much the millage rate would have to be raised
to realize another $1 million with additional discussion regarding how to sell the
concept with Mr. Neibert indicating it would provide six new firefighters and free up
$500,000 to improve salaries for the Police Department.
The Commission discussed the issue with the following comments: 1) Looking at
the elimination of the dispatch due to duplication of services; 2) Using the cost
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savings to reduce the millage rate; 3) Issues that arose during previous discussion
about eliminating dispatch; and 4) Impact of Covid 19 on sales tax revenues.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to bring the issue of
the fire assessment fee back to the Commission for consideration with
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith expressing opposition and Commissioner Cobb and
Vice Mayor Lee also expressing concern .
Further discussion was held regarding the possible elimination of dispatch with Mr.
Neibert indicating they already have a draft agreement with the Sheriff. He asked
if the Commission wanted him to go ahead and approach the Sheriff. He indicated
the savings last time was going to be about $250,000; however, the Sheriffs rate
would probably go up so savings would probably be about $200,000. He then
asked that if they are not 100% sold on the issue that they not move forward.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to leave dispatch in place
and for staff to move forward with the initiating process for implementation of the
fire assessment fee.
1.6 Discussion regarding Community Center and Fairgrounds
Mr. Neibert reviewed the history of the donation of the fairgrounds property to Lake
County for use of the fair. He stated that the Property Appraiser currently has the
property valued at $1.4 million. He reviewed the various buildings on the property.
Mayor Holland noted the County Commissioners are aware of the City's interest in
getting the property back.
Mr. Neibert asked what would the Commission be willing to pay for the property
and how would it be used. He stated that he didn't think the City should pay more
than $900,000.
Discussion was held regarding the Fair Board with Commissioner Cobb indicating
they think it is too small because they think a larger facility will increase the
amount they earn off the fair; however, that is not the case. She commented on
how the City could utilize the venue with Mayor Holland noting that the County
employees are not even allowed to market the property.
Discussion was held regarding funding that would be needed to improve the
facility and how it could be marketed by the City with Mr. Neibert noting it could
also be an alternate location for Georgefest once the three blocks downtown are
redeveloped.
Discussion was held regarding how soon the City would need to renovate the
facilities and how much benefit the City gets from the fair.
Mr. Neibert noted they would begin negotiating with the County and the
Commission could schedule tours of the facility.
Carver Park Recreation Facility Expansion and Community Center Projects
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Mr. Neibert cited the previous discussion regarding expansion of the Carver Park
facility and the lakefront community building and reviewed the basic plans for both
projects. He discussed needed repairs to the current community building and
commented on limitations to the public access to Lake Eustis. He reviewed the
benefits of a new community/conference/sailing center and stated the estimated
project costs are $1.4 million for the Carver Park recreation facility expansion and
$16.35 million for the community/conference/sailing center. He stated that, if they
wanted to remove the sailing component, they could probably reduce the total cost
by $4 million .
Mr. Neibert then reviewed the proposed project funding and noted that he received
a phone call from a resident who has pledged $1 million to the community building
project.
Discussion was held regarding including the sailing component but not marketing it
for that with Commissioner Lee expressing opposition to the City paying for it and
Commissioner Hawkins indicating he did not feel the Sailing Club was as
committed to the project as the City.
Further discussion was held regarding the sailing component with Mr. Neibert
indicating it could be left out for now and added at a later date if they wanted.
Mayor Holland commented on the lack of unity between the various sailing entities
previously.
Stephanie Carder, Chamber of Commerce, commented on their efforts to market
the project and cited the difficulty in working with the various sailing entities. She
stated that, of the $10,000 the Chamber raised, only about $700 came from sailing
members.
Mr. Neibert indicated that if they omit the sailing component they will still have a
world-class, state of the art, community building/conference center.
Commissioner Cobb stated her belief that the City will not receive the $3.5 million
from the Tourism Development Council (TDC). She commented on the possibility
of improving the fairgrounds property instead .
Further discussion was held regarding whether the existing community building
could be expanded with Mr. Neibert indicating the plans were for a building on the
same footprint to retain land for parking. He indicated the City will receive $1 .75
million from the sale of the sprayfield and that could be used for improvements at
the fairgrounds.
Discussion was held regarding relocating the Carver Park recreation building to
the fairgrounds and the number of children participating in the program.
Discussion was held regarding how the community center could be expanded with
Rick Gierok estimating the sitework only would be approximately $1,000,000
without any renovations to the building . He noted it already is estimated to cost
$250,000 to repair the roof.
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Tom Carrino, Economic Development Director, stated the sailing component was
a significant portion of the City's application to the TDC so the City would probably
not get any funding from them.
Discussion was held regarding the following: 1) Whether or not the debt
referendum would pass; 2) the possibility of improving and expanding the existing
community center; 3) the possibility of selling the Woman's Club facility; and 4)
whether to patch or replace the commun ity center roof.
CONSENSUS : It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to look at
improving or replacing on a smaller scale the existing community center and to
proceed with patching the roof.
Recess: 2:59 p.m . Reconvene: 3:15 p.m .
1.7 Consideration of any other topics that may be requested by the Commission
Development Incentive Water & Sewer Impact Fee Waiver Program
Mr. Neibert provided an update on the development incentive for the water and
sewer impact fee waiver program . He explained the impact fees have to be paid
and were paid by transferring the funds from the water & sewer operations fund.
He stated that the program will expire April 4, 2021 and asked for direction from
the Commission regarding renewal of the program . He stated staffs
recommendation for renewal.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to bring back the
renewal for approval.
Lien Release and Reductions - delegation of authority to City Manager in certain
circumstances
Ms. Barnes reviewed the City's current policy for reduction or partial releases of
recorded code liens and noted those situations where the City is precluded from
foreclosing on a lien . She stated that, when that occurs, the City still needs to
release the lien in order to clear the title. She stated there is an Attorney General's
opinion that a Commission could delegate to a collection agency the ability to
reduce or compromise a lien. She inferred that would also extend to the
Commission providing that ability to staff such as the Development Services
Director, Code Enforcement Supervisor or City Manager to release those liens.
Ms. Barnes then reviewed those conditions where staff has brought to the
Commission cases where a property owner has agreed to pay hard costs in order
to have the lien released. She stated that any situations involving a property
needing to be brought into compliance or to meet certain conditions prior to a
release would be brought before the Commission . She stated that approval of the
delegation of authority would not require a code change.
Commissioner Hawkins confirmed that the delegation to the City Manager would
not involve sale of property.
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Code Enforcement Board vs. Special Magistrate
Ms. Barnes reviewed the current Code Enforcement structure and explained that
her department is continually looking for ways to streamline the City's processes.
She noted that Lake County and all of the other area cities use a special
magistrate for code enforcement purposes. She reviewed how the process would
work under a special magistrate as follows: 1) Code Board Attorney would serve
as the special magistrate; 2) Monthly meetings but would not have to determine a
quorum; 3) Increased consistency in application of the code; 4) Increased
efficiency/streamline presentation and consideration of violations; and 5) Decrease
in costs. She commented on the cost savings related to advertising vacancies and
conducting background checks.
Commissioner Hawkins confirmed that the special magistrate would solely make
the decisions with Ms. Barnes explaining it would be based on application of the
law alone.
Commissioner Hawkins confirmed the amount of annual savings would be
approximately $2,000. He commented on, as a former Code Board member, his
preference for having community members make the decisions.
Mayor Holland, as also a former Code Board member, concurred. He questioned
why it takes so long to get applicants appointed.
Ms. Barnes commented on delays due to Covid and indicated they have recently
asked Human Resources to move forward with processing applicants.
Commissioner Cobb and Vice Mayor Lee concurred with the need to retain the
Board .
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith expressed support for the magistrate due to removal
of the personal feelings .
Board and Committee Appointments
Ms. Montez explained the intent to have the Commissioners review the list of
boards and committee prior to the appointing resolution being on the next agenda.
The Commissioners volunteered for the various positions as follows : 1) Audit
Committee and Lake County League of Cities - Mayor Holland with Vice Mayor
Lee as alternate; 2) Lake Sumter Metropolitan Planning Organization -
Commissioner Hawkins; 3) Arts & Cultural Alliance - Commissioner Cobb as
primary; 4) Upper Ocklawaha Basin Working Group - Commissioner Hawkins; 5)
Lake Community Action Agency - Commissioner Hawkins with Commissioner
LeHeup-Smith as alternate; and 6) Lake County Educational Concurrency
Committee - Commissioner Hawkins.
Commissioner Cobb expressed interest in appointing Kelly Batson Howard as the
alternate to the Arts and Cultural Alliance with Ms. Montez explaining she would
have to submit an application prior to her appointment being considered.
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Other Topics by Commissioners
Vice Mayor Lee commented on the need to increase opportunities to improve the
community's workforce. She suggested partnering with Lake Tech and Lake
Sumter State College to help provide resources for the City's workforce. She cited
the need for the City to better market City properties when they are for sale. She
then expressed support for utilizing the Resource Center for the purpose it was
intended. She commented on the improvements the City has made to Palmetto
Park and how it has been used for illegal activities. She expressed concern
regarding issues with the Mai Yung Sun store and emphasized the need for
surveillance and bicycle patrols. She asked for the Police Department to look at
new strategies to discourage illegal activities and for the City to get businesses
and faith-based organizations involved in that effort. She stated that City offices
need to be more user friendly and expressed concern regarding the housing rehab
program . She stated that if it is not working, then the City should take the funds
and put it into improvements to the community.
Mayor Holland agreed with the need to redirect the housing rehab funding. He
concurred with putting funds into education and then can look at housing.
Vice Mayor Lee stated the City has to look at the quality of life and expressed
concern about the children lagging behind.
Mayor Holland commented on issues with the Lake County education system.
Vice Mayor Lee indicated she would like to see the Community Garden re-
activated.
Mayor Holland asked Ms. Lee to speak with Dr. Culpepper to request a meeting.
Commissioner Hawkins cited the need to improve the City's footprint and
emphasized the need to improve the entrances to the City. He expressed concern
regarding how well the City markets itself and commented on the historical
museum noting he had only seen it open once.
Discussion was held regarding structural issues with the building and roofing
issues with Erin Bailey indicating they just re-opened and currently they are open
only on the weekends.
Commissioner Hawkins stated the downtown businesses don't feel the City
supports them. He expressed their concerns regarding street closures and
feedback he had received from them.
Discussion was held regarding the street closures and parking issues with Mr.
Neibert reporting that staff is scheduling a meeting with the downtown businesses
to discuss whether or not to continue holding events downtown and whether or not
to close the streets.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the lack of water fountains in Ferran Park
and the limited hours at the swimming pool
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Mr. Neibert explained the City has had issues finding lifeguards so they can keep
the pool open longer.
Commissioner Hawkins asked about possibly building another pool with
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith commenting on the high cost to keep the pool
functioning and Mr. Neibert indicating the pool heater has not been repaired due to
the high cost and the low number of people using the pool.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the City library and stated local students
are not aware of all the programs available. He suggested having a booth at First
Friday.
Ann Ivey, Library Director, stated she would prefer to have after hours events to
bring people into the library. She stated that, prior to Covid, she was considering
establishing a youth advisory board to find out how to attract young people.
Commissioner Hawkins questioned how often the library goes into the schools
with Ms. Ivey responding that at the beginning of the year they offer tours. She
added that, when she has reached out to the schools, they have not responded.
Further discussion was held with Mr. Neibert suggesting they could add a youth
member to the Library Advisory Board.
Commissioner Hawkins then asked about Sharp's Mobile Home Park with Mr.
Neibert responding that the property was sold; however, the new owner wants to
continue to operate as a mobile home park. He cited issues with the park and
stated they will be testing the legality of replacing the mobile homes. He
commented on efforts the City has made with enforcement.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the need for the City to get good press and
then cited issues with the homeless population and Open Door. He commented on
problems with people hanging out at the parking garage.
Mr. Neibert reported that the Police Dept. has increased foot patrols. He
explained that if someone is caught doing wrong, then they are trespassed from all
City properties. He explained the City cannot trespass from sidewalks and streets
only from actual City property.
Commissioner Hawkins asked about the crime rate in the City with Bill Howe, HR
Director, distributing a report based on the Uniform Crime Reports. He noted that
the 2019 crime rate was lower than most of the years since 1995. He asked if City
officers have been directed to limit the number of arrests with Chief Calhoun
responding, that due to Covid, they have been told to limit contacts on minor traffic
infractions not on crimes. He then provided a report comparing the crime rate
between the City and the cities of Leesburg, Mount Dora and Tavares. He added
that drug crimes and trespass are not reported nationwide.
The Commission expressed concern regarding the number of drug related crimes
and questioned what is going to be done.
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Chief Calhoun indicated that, as soon as they are aware of an issue, they respond
and curtail it.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed concern regarding lack of police presence in
the Bates Avenue area.
The Commission discussed the possibility of putting a substation in the area.
Chief Calhoun noted that the department does have an officer assigned to the
County drug task force. He was unsure how much time the task force works in
Eustis.
Mayor Holland questioned whether or not cameras were ever put in the park with
Mr. Neibert responding negatively.
Commissioner Cobb commented on the history of the Palmetto Park
improvements with Mr. Neibert noting the City received a $750,000 grant towards
the project.
Commissioner Hawkins concurred with the need to re-open the Resource Center.
He then asked about the mow-to-own program with Mr. Neibert explaining there
needs to be sufficient lots available to make it worthwhile.
Ms. Barnes noted there are a number of lots that she wants to get demolished.
She said by fall they should be doing another program.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the Headstart program and their needs.
Suggestions were made that they provide a presentation to the Commission and
the Chamber. He then asked about the City offering internships to high school
students. He commented on the benefits to the students.
Mr. Howe noted that the City has had students intern in various departments .
Vice Mayor Lee commented on a partnership the City previously had between the
culinary arts program and the community garden.
Mr. Neibert noted that the City has used the high school culinary arts department
for the food at the health fair.
Commissioner Cobb commented on the need for City facilities to be better
maintained . She cited the fence at the disk golf park needing repair. She
commented on the gateway grant program and offered to go out to the businesses
with brochures. She suggested holding a meeting at the community building to
provide information to the businesses and asked about issues with the intersection
at Bay Street and McDonald.
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, explained that will be part of a current DOT
project. He offered to give her a copy of a presentation that shows all of the
projects in process.
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Commissioner Cobb commented on the need for additional code enforcement with
Ms. Barnes citing the large number of cases processed in the past year. She
reviewed the process utilized and explained how long it takes to complete a case.
Discussion was held regarding compressing the timeframe and eliminating the
initial courtesy notice.
Ms. Barnes indicated she would review the timeframe with the Code Enforcement
Board with Mr. Neibert indicating the Commission indicated their preference for
sending one notice and then taking offenders to the Code Enforcement Board.
Following further discussion regarding the process, it was a consensus of the
Commission to leave the process as is.
Commissioner Cobb noted that Dallas Meringolo from Lake County 4-H would be
providing a presentation at the next Commission meeting regarding the
Community Garden. She then noted the City does not have an art center and
suggested putting an art center at the Lake Community Action Agency (LCAA)
building since that rent agreement expired December 31st.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith commented on the lack of foot traffic at the former
Arts Center.
Mr. Neibert suggested she form an ad hoc committee to consider options.
The Commission discussed LCAA with Mr. Neibert commenting on their request
for the City to lower the rent ever since they lost Headstart.
Commissioner Hawkins questioned what benefit the LCAA provides to the City
with Mr. Neibert explaining that they do weatherization and similar programs.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the Cemetery maintenance with Mayor Holland
indicating he would be discussing the cemetery with a local funeral director who
was interested in purchasing it.
Mr. Neibert indicated the City subsidizes the cemetery with $100,000 of general
fund monies.
Mayor Holland noted that another alternative would be to bring in a third party
manager. He noted that the Cemetery sexton and assistant are both about to
retire. He commented on the uptick in cremations in the state.
Commissioner Cobb expressed concern regarding the active panhandling
particularly near the Gate Station.
Chief Calhoun confirmed that if they are standing in traffic they can be arrested .
The Commission discussed other locations with panhandling with Mr. Neibert
explaining the issues with addressing that problem.
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Commissioner Cobb asked for not-for-profits be required to provide a presentation
along with financial reports and proof of performance before being considered for
a grant.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for the community grant
applications to be presented to the Commission directly during a workshop.
Discussion was held regarding the Bay Street Theater.
Mayor Holland expressed concern regarding the cleanliness of the City and
emphasized the downtown and entryways need to be kept up. He also
commented on the need for lighting on Hwy. 441 . He expressed support for
Commissioners requesting workshops.
Vice Mayor Lee commented on the need for entranceway signs with Mayor
Holland noting there are entrance signs but they have solar lighting. He cited the
need to have improved lighting and landscaping .
Commissioner Cobb stated the medians looked better when City staff maintained
them.
2. ADJOURNMENT: 5:07 P.M.
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MICHAEL L. HOLLAND
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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