City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · November 7, 2013
Minutes
APPROVED: 11/19/2013
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Minutes - Final*
City Commission Workshop
Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:00PM City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Muenzmay- 7:05
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
Present: 5 - Linda Bob; Albert Eckian; Michael Holland; Karen LeHeup-Smith; and Kress Muenzmay
I. Workshop Item #1
13255 Review of Commission Rules of Order
Commissioner Eckian commented on previous revisions to the Rules of Order and stated that he had
discussed his concerns with Ms. Kramer and asked her to review those issues.
II. Commission Discussion
Ms. Kramer referred to paragraph 7 regarding closed meetings and recommended that
subparagraph (b) restricting discussion by the Commissioners after the meeting be eliminated.
The Commission confirmed that the subparagraph is not required by law and the fact that much of
what is discussed in the closed sessions is already in the public domain.
Mr. Schroth stated that the Commission does not have the authority to restrict what the
Commissioners discuss after a meeting, only a judge has the authority to issue a "gag order''. He
noted that paragraph 19 (c) asserts that the Rules of Order are guidelines only and do not carry the
force and effect of law.
Ms. Kramer then reviewed paragraph 8, subparagraph (3), and recommended wording to clarify the
handling of motions that died for lack of a second.
Ms. Kramer then reviewed paragraph 10, subparagraph (c), regarding adding an item to an agenda
with the following additional wording: ''An item may be added to the agenda at a meeting if the
majority of the Commission approves, but such items should generally be of a ministerial nature."
She provided examples of items that might be added.
Ms. Kramer reviewed paragraph 10, subparagraph (d), with the following recommended additional
wording: "If the Commission agrees to remove an item from the agenda, the Presiding Officer shall
first give the public an opportunity to speak on the item."
The Commission discussed whether that is necessary in light of the new state law regarding public
input with Mr. Schroth noting that the wording would be helpful in the event that an item was
determined to be tabled after the ''Audience to be Heard" portion of the meeting.
Ms. Kramer reviewed paragraph 11, subparagraph (5), with the following wording to be added under
Agenda Update: "by the City Manager; (Generally limited to items removed or tabled and additions of
a ministerial nature)".
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It was a consensus to omit that wording as it is clear under the charter that the agenda is under the
purview of the City Manager.
Ms. Kramer reviewed paragraph 14 - General Procedures with the same changes regarding
sequence as proposed under paragraph 8 (3) .
Ms. Kramer then reviewed paragraph 17 - Disruption of Meetings with the following additional
wording: ·~ny Commissioner may request that the City Manager provide a uniformed law
enforcement officer for any regular or special meeting or study session of the Commission."
lll. Public Input- None
IV. Commission Direction
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for the proposed revisions to be brought back
for approval with the exception of the proposed change to paragraph 11 (5) regarding the Agenda
Update.
V. Workshop Item #2
13256 Fire Station #2 on the North End of the City
Fire Chief Rex Winn explained the need for a north side fire station to reduce response times to the
northern end of the City. He explained the proposed location for the station on City-owned property
off of Hicks Ditch Road. He further explained why the mulch plant would not be conducive due to the
amount of roadwork that would have been required. He presented the proposal for use of a modular
building with an estimated cost of $392,463. He noted that the building could later be moved or sold
if the City decided to build something else.
VI. Commission Discussion
The Commission asked about the impact in relation to the previously discussed fire district with Chief
Winn stating that it would help with the areas that Mount Dora was requesting assistance with. He
added it would not be as close as Station #27 that was discussed as part of the fire district. He
noted that the other cities involved in the discussion both have two fire stations and this would make
Eustis equal with the other cities.
The Commission discussed the need for improved northern response and including Phase II and
Phase Ill with Phase I due to the low additional cost.
Ms. Kramer thanked Chief Winn for his work on the project. She noted that the majority of the funds
would come from Fire Impact Fees that the City already has but approximately $100,000 would need
to be identified. She indicated that there are other issues in the Capita/Improvement budget that
need to be discussed and staff would bring that back for consideration.
VII. Public Input
Mayor Muenzmay opened public comment at 7:35p.m.
B. E. Pace, 3002 Linmont Lane, 29 Diedrich St. , 2733 Maywood St. , noted he was told that mutual
aid was only for confirmed fires and not medical calls. He questioned why that is. He noted that the
County has a station immediately across from Park Place and, yet, they would not respond for a
medical call.
Chief Winn explained that the City's interlocal agreement is with Lake County Fire for structural fires
and fire alarms. He stated that Station #27 is called if there is a major medical call. He noted that
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the only time the County has refused is when they were out of the station. He explained that if the
City had to respond automatically to all of the County's medical calls, they would spend all of their
time responding to County calls. He added that Lake EMS responds to all of the medical calls;
however, the City's unit usually arrives first.
Mr. Pace questioned why the County doesn't respond dually to all medical calls.
Mr. Muenzmay stated the City does not have the resources available to respond dually to all calls.
He added that all of the City's staff are advanced medically trained but not all of the County staff are.
He noted that the new station will reduce response times to Park Place by 3. 5 minutes.
Commissioner Holland commented on how the County units may be dispatched anywhere else in
the County and not be in station.
Jerry Cobb, 1255 E CR44, expressed support for the proposed fire station noting that any growth in
the City will be to the north and offered his assistance. He thanked the Commission for utilizing the
City's tax dollars on such a worthwhile project.
There being no further public comment, public input was closed at 7:44p.m.
VTII. Commission Direction
CONSENSUS: It was the consensus of the Commission for staff to move forward with the plans for
the fire station with all three phases to be done simultaneously.
IX. Adjournment-7:45p.m.
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Agenda
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Agenda
City Commission Workshop
Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:00 PM City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Muenzmay
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
I. Workshop Item #1
13255 Review of Commission Rules of Order
II. Commission Discussion
III. Public Input
IV. Commission Direction
V. Workshop Item #2
13256 Fire Station #2 on the North End of the City
VI. Commission Discussion
VII. Public Input
VIII. Commission Direction
IX. Adjournment
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