City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · November 14, 2018
Minutes
APPROVED:12/6/2018
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Minutes- Final*
City Commission Workshop
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:00PM Woman's Club, 227 N. Center St.
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Morin - 5:01 p.m.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
Present: 5 - Marie Aliberti; Linda Bob; Carla Gnann-Thompsen; Michael Holland; and Robert Morin
Also present: Lake County Commissioner Leslie Campione, County Manager Jeff Cole, Lake
Sumter MPO Director Michael Woods and Eustis City Manager Ronald Neibert
I. Workshop Items - Each item to include Commission discussion
18-0277 Update on Redevelopment of Pine Meadows Tennis Complex
Leslie Campione, County Commissioner for District 4, commented on individuals thinking that she is
not in support of Eustis' success. She indicated her belief that they are just looking at this issue
from different perspectives and seeing different ways of achieving success. She stated her goal is
to try to be a resource for the City as its County Commissioner and help facilitate. She noted that
Mayor Morin had recently attended a County Commission meeting and expressed concern that
Eustis is not mentioned on any of the 429 exit signage. She reported that she had contacted the
Expressway Authority and their Executive Director is going to make sure that Eustis is added to the
sign that currently says "Tavares". She stated it should be in place by the end of January.
Commissioner Campione then provided an update on the Pine Meadows Tennis Complex. She
explained the donor has granted Lake County a long-term easement in exchange for the County
refurbishing the tennis courts, clay courts, basketball and pickleball courts. She indicated that the
speed of the project will depend on what the County finds when they begin to refurbish. She stated
there is lighting already in place and the goal is to redo what's already there. She added they will
also restripe and redo the parking lot.
18-0278 Update on Dedication of Trail from CR44A to Pine Meadows Conservation
Area
Commissioner Campione reported on the planned dedication of a trail from CR44A to the Pine
Meadows Conservation Area. She explained this would allow people to access Hicks Ditch to reach
the trail system with the plan being to eventually extend the trail to Lake May. She explained they
are continuing to work on the connecting pieces. She suggested the City of Eustis could create a
trailhead on the property the City owns so that people could park on the north side of 44A and not
have to cross the road to access the trail. She acknowledged that the Trout Lake Nature Center had
wanted the trail to begin on their property and that might be fine eventually but that it makes more
sense to have the trail begin on the north side of the road.
The Commission questioned how much land would be needed with Commissioner Campione
indicating it would depend on the number of parking places and whether or not bathrooms could be
included.
The Commission discussed the trail, the possibility of extending the trail through the downtown area,
and the need to discuss the City's plans for the property before making a decision.
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Ron Neibert, City Manager, suggested that the Public Works department could create a possible site
plan which could be reviewed by the Commission after the new Commissioners are seated in
January.
Commissioner Campione stated an alternative could be to take the trail down 44A and cross over to
the Nature Center, making it more family friendly
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for City staff to draft up a plan for future
review.
18-0279 Update on Umatilla to Astor "Ocala Forest" Trail
Commissioner Campione commented on the possible benefit to the City of Eustis from the Umatilla
to Astor trail and introduced Lake Sumter MPO Director Mike Wood to discuss the Black Bear Trail.
Mr. Wood explained the trail would be a 36 mile trail along State Road 40 and would connect to the
250 mile Heart of Florida loop trail. He stated that Lake County agreed in 2015 to work on the 36
mile trail to close the gap in the Heart of Florida trail. He explained that the project is currently in the
feasibility phase and they need to narrow down the location to one alternative before proceeding to
the next phase in 2020. He stated that no right-of-way would be needed as it would all be located
on federal/and. He added it would also connect to the Sea Trail in Volusia County.
Mr. Wood then reported on the plans for the North Lake Trail. He explained that the City of Umatilla
had partnered with Lake County to submit an application for the trail and obtain funding. He
indicated they are studying the old railroad bed and taking 445 to Astor Park. He stated that the
feasibility study will be used to select one of the paths. He then explained that the MPO is currently
accepting new project applications and suggested that the extension of the trail into Eustis and on to
Tavares might be a viable alternative. He further suggested that that Eustis submit an application
and explained that the corridor on the master plan starts the process.
Discussion was held regarding the costs for trails with Mr. Wood estimating a study and construction
at $1 million per mile. He explained that construction is not done with local dollars but with federal
and state dollars.
Mr. Neibert explained the report was just an update on the program as the master plan was just
recently adopted. He stated that the Commission could discuss submitting an application in the
spring.
Further discussion was held regarding utilizing the railroad bed for trails as well as other uses and
how the trail is proposed to run on the master plan.
18-0280 Update on Round Lake Road Extension and POE Study
Commissioner Campione provided an update on the hearings regarding the Round Lake Road
extension and PD&E study She stated the County is still evaluating all of the impacts and has not
selected an alternative. She noted traffic problems in the subject area and stated that an extension
to 44 is needed. She indicated it would provide a connection from Eustis to the parkway. She
explained the new steps would be after they receive the consultants' evaluation of the costs. She
stated that a cost needs to be determined for each of the alternates as well as the number of
residents that would be impacted for each. She stated they had been in contact with FOOT to
determine if a traffic light is warranted for the intersection of Britt Road and 44. She noted that a
property owner along Britt has not been willing to negotiate for an easement. She added that FDOT
has funding in 2020 for design of the road and it will require a 50% match from Lake County utilizing
impact fees.
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Commissioner Campione then reported that the County Commission had voted to increase the traffic
impact fee for the north region which goes along 441 to 448 and on up to Umatilla. She explained
that the district places Eustis, Umatilla, Tavares and Mount Dora into one impact fee district so they
will all have the same traffic impact fee. She stated that future increases have been phased in to
increase in February 2019, then again in August 2019 and again in the following year She reported
that the County has applied for a public infrastructure grant to build the Round Lake Road extension
which will include a trail on one side and a sidewalk on the other She suggested that, when Eustis
proceeds with development of its master trail plan, they may want to consider that as a way to
connect.
18-0283 Lake County Fairgrounds
Commissioner Campione announced that the Lake County Fair Board is proceeding with relocating
the fair in order to provide for more space and be more centrally located. She stated that Lake
County has appraised the property with the intent of selling the property and utilizing the funds to
construct facilities at the new site. She stated that the new site backs up to the County landfill
across from Lake ldamere and adjacent to the new animal shelter She explained that the relocation
would not require purchase of new property She noted that she had recently been informed that
there is an old document which requires the City and County to consult if the property is discontinued
for use as the fairgrounds.
Mr Neibert provided a review of the history of the City's donation of the property for the fairgrounds
and stated the property was deeded to Lake County in June 1967. He indicated that City staff could
not locate a copy of the agreement which formalized the details of the donation.
The Commission discussed the history of the donation with Commissioner Campione apologizing
that the information regarding the relocation was in the news prior to the City being made aware of
the situation. She stated the County is considering a couple of options for the property and want to
insure that the property receives the highest and best use. She suggested the comer parcel should
probably be designated as commercial.
Mr Neibert suggested that the Commission could discuss the property at their first meeting in
December
18-0281 Discussion regarding East Crooked Lake, Lake Joanne, enclaves and
similar unincorporated areas
Commissioner Campione acknowledged that, legally, the Commission could not discuss certain
aspects of the East Crooked Lake proposed project. She noted the current land use designation for
the property has a wide range of allowed density of one to five units per acre. She stated that can
be scary to the surrounding residents and commented on how developers can promise one thing but
don't always follow through. She suggested the City consider creating a new land use designation
with lower allowable densities which could help the development patterns remain in keeping with
what's already in place. She stated that, if the standards are set high, the developers will find a way
to make it work.
The Commission discussed the possibility of changing land use designations in order to protect
some areas with Mr Neibert reporting that there have been some staff discussions regarding a
similar proposal and that will be presented at a future date.
18-0282 Discussion regarding homelessness concerns throughout Lake County
Commissioner Campione commented on the effects of homelessness on the area's cities and cited
the pockets of homeless camps within the City. She noted how other areas have implemented
programs which causes the homeless individuals to migrate to other areas. She stated that the City
could become a magnet for homeless if they do not have a program in place. She reported on
various programs offered through HUD and noted that Lake County does not have a transitional or
overnight housing as well as no bridge housing which would provide housing for people waiting to
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qualify for housing vouchers. She stated her hope to find a place to create bridge housing and
noted that communities that don't want to allow overnight housing might be willing to allow
transitional housing for those individuals who actually want assistance and need a place to live until
their application is processed.
Commissioner Holland recommended having a workshop with all of the community partners before
moving forward with anything. He recommended inviting Commissioner Campione, Open Door and
Lifestream. He noted that, prior to Open Door, there was a homeless community that went back and
forth between Eustis and Leesburg.
Discussion was held regarding the need for a transitional shelter, the amount of special needs
students located at Eustis Heights Elementary and the probability that bringing in more homeless
people will increase those levels, and the losses in housing and mental health funding through the
legislature.
Mr. Neibert recommended having a standalone workshop, possibly in February. He also suggested
the Commission consider holding a weekend retreat to discuss a variety of goals and objectives.
Commissioner Campione reported they are looking at the possibility of working with the United Way
to do a point in time survey to better identify the pockets of homeless, what services are already
available, and what organizations could assist. She noted that the State has been utilizing SHIP
money for other purposes and stated that the County's legislative priorities include addressing that
issue with the legislature. She indicated that they need to lobby all of the legislators about leaving
the SHIP funding alone.
Commissioner Campione then noted she had provided to the Commissioners a copy of a
promotional booklet the County has developed to recruit new businesses and stated their desire to
update it.
Commissioner Gnann-Thompson asked about the location for the 429 signage for Eustis with
Commissioner Campione indicating that the federal government dictates the location of certain signs.
She stated that the sign closest the exit currently just say "Tavares" and that is where they are
working to add Eustis.
Mr. Neibert indicated that he had received an email confirming Eustis would be added to the sign
with Mayor Morin indicating they could possibly add Eustis to the southbound sign in Zone 5 as well.
II. Public Input
Mayor Morin opened the floor to public comment at 6: 11p.m.
Nan Cobb asked about the Pine Meadows project with Commissioner Campione responding they
have been given a 100-year lease but, once the improvements are completed, the owners may
convey the property to the County.
Eileen Johnson thanked the Commission for discussing the East Crooked Lake land use designation
issue. She questioned how the property on East Crooked Lake was presented to the Commission
with the recommendation for the higher density and asked for clarification of the Commission's
stance on the issue.
Commissioner Bob noted she had met with staff about the project and agreed that if the allowed
density is one to five, then the developers will try to get the maximum. She stated she asked staff to
look at changing the allowed densities noting that she will no longer be on the Commission after
December. She stated her belief that two homes per acre would be sufficient.
Ms. Johnson noted that there are approximately twenty homes in the area for sale.
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Commissioner Campione explained that the City Attorney is not present; however, he would be
cautioning them against discussing the issue at this time.
Mayor Morin explained the Commission could not provide an answer at that time. He noted the
amount of time the Commission allowed for public input at the meeting on the issue.
Ms. Johnson announced she would email to the Commission a show from National Public Radio
regarding how to resolve the homeless issues and providing training. She volunteered to help with
the homeless issue.
Mayor Morin noted that the show and program in question was in a Virginia city with over 400,000
people while the City of Eustis only has 20,000.
Erica Wilson, Open Door, commented on the homeless problem and explained the amount of funds
available to the homeless. She stated that housing for a night doesn't help and that what is needed
is transitional housing. She recommended bringing in people who work with the homeless when the
City holds it workshop. She noted that point in time counts are not completely accurate.
III. Commission Direction
No additional Commission direction was provided at that time.
IV. Adjournment - 6:25 p.m.
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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Agenda
City Hall
City of Eustis, Florida 10 North Grove Street
Post Office Drawer 68
Eustis, FL 32727-0068
Meeting Agenda
City Commission Workshop
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:00 PM Woman's Club, 227 N. Center St.
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Morin
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
I. Workshop Items - Each item to include Commission discussion
18-0277 Update on Redevelopment of Pine Meadows Tennis Complex
18-0278 Update on Dedication of Trail from CR44A to Pine Meadows
Conservation Area
18-0279 Update on Umatilla to Astor "Ocala Forest" Trail
18-0280 Update on Round Lake Road Extension and PDE Study
18-0283 Lake County Fairgrounds
18-0281 Discussion regarding East Crooked Lake, Lake Joanne, enclaves and
similar unincorporated areas
18-0282 Discussion regarding homelessness concerns throughout Lake County
II. Commission Discussion
III. Public Input
IV. Commission Direction
V. Adjournment
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