City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · August 4, 2022
Minutes
APPROVED 12/1/2022
MINUTES
City Commission Workshop
5:00 PM - Thursday, August 4, 2022 - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: 5:02 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor
Emily Lee and Mayor Michael Holland
EXCUSED: Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith
1.0 WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION
1.0 Presentation of UCF Business Incubation Program
Tom Carrino, City Manager, announced that Economic Development Director
Al Latimer would provide a presentation to the Commission regarding the
proposed business incubation program which would be followed by a
presentation by UCF.
Al Latimer, Economic Development Director for the City of Eustis, introduced
the business incubation program concept as part of a comprehensive
economic development strategy. He discussed the opportunity to partner with
UCF to establish an incubator in Eustis. He stated that incubator programs rely
on partnerships to leverage resources, knowledge, and strengths, and they
also allow for sharing of costs and risks. He noted that UCF is nationally
recognized for its incubation program. He provided an overview of the
opportunity citing the reasons for starting a business incubator including the
following: 1) Providing a resource to entrepreneurs who want to start a
business; 2) Nurturing young businesses through the early growth stage; 3)
Beginning more businesses in targeted sectors; 4) Creating diversity in the
local economy; and 5) Creating jobs.
Mr. Latimer commented on the various funding models and possible reasons
for failure of an incubator. He discussed short-term and long-term performance
metrics with short-term results building towards a long-term platform. He
discussed how a feasibility study could answer key questions for entrepreneurs
and possible outcomes from the investment.
Rob Panepinto, Director of Strategy and Partnerships for the UCF Business
Incubation System, and Carol Ann Logue, Director of Programs and
Operations, presented the UCF Business Incubation Program "Unleashing
Potential Together". He noted that Mr. Latimer cited the strategic points that
are included in UCF's assessment which was completed prior to presenting a
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proposal to the City of Eustis. He stated their desire to implement the program
as a piece of a larger puzzle. He commented on the program support services
including mentorship, business development, business operations, capital,
leadership development, and specialized space. He explained how each of
those services benefit fledgling businesses.
Ms. Logue explained that the incubator does not subsidize low cost space.
She added that the businesses will not be able to ever graduate if they are not
used to paying market rate for their space.
Due to technical difficulties, the livestreaming started at approximately 5: 12
p.m.
Mr. Panepinto stated that UCF has eight incubators in either innovation districts
or regional business growth centers. He added his opinion that the City of
Eustis would fall into a regional business growth center. He commented on the
amount of intergovernmental cooperation in some of the incubators. He further
commented on how expertise from the existing programs can be used to assist
local businesses.
Ms. Logue commented on how the incubator would assist local businesses and
how some assistance could be provided virtually. She cited the need to assist
with financial management and legal issues pertaining to that. She explained
the amount of service provided to their "traction clients" and cited some specific
companies currently in one of their programs. She explained some companies
come to them after having some rapid growth and needing assistance with how
to move forward. She reviewed their Soft Landing program which focuses on
businesses located outside of Florida but that are considering opening
branches in Florida. She cited the differences with international companies
looking to relocate to Orlando.
Ms. Logue then explained they track metrics and performance for each quarter
from each of their client companies and cited some of the performance
standards tracked. She provided a list of some of their funding partners and
stated that for every public $1 invested there is an economic impact of over
$10. She added that the economic development professional association does
studies of the industry and consistently it has shown that incubation is the most
effective job creation and economic development approach. She emphasized
that a greater number of companies stay in the area that are supported by this
type of program. She commented on the number of companies that fail within
three to five years and emphasized how the incubation program reverses that
trend with 90% of the program graduates still in business after five years.
Mr. Panepinto provided an overview of the program proposed for Eustis
including the following: 1) One office to provide a dedicated resource to the
area; 2) Meeting space for up to 40 participants to be provided by the
City/Mega; 3) UCF full-time staff resource to engage with the community
leaders who will build program awareness, identify prospect companies, build
mentor and service provider networks and work with individual companies/
entrepreneurs; 4) Leverage existing SBDC Lake County resources and existing
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UCF resources; 5) Launch a virtual incubator to augment the fulltime staff; and
6) Host a minimum of two Business Bootcamp programs to support existing
small businesses. He explained what a Bootcamp would include.
Ms. Logue commented on the City of Kissimmee program and stated they have
already renewed and increased the number of companies they can serve
through that program. She cited a platform they utilize called Growthwheel and
explained how it is used by the participant companies.
Mr. Panepinto then commented on how a physical incubator space might
evolve into an incubator facility based on local needs and the types of industry.
He then cited the funding anticipated to be needed from the City with Ms.
Logue explaining how that funding level was determined based on the cost of
existing similar programs.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the fee for "traction" companies with Ms.
Logue responding it is $300 per month for all services with Mr. Panepinto
indicating that the traction program is typically for one year.
Commissioner Cobb cited the SBDC program in Lake County and noted issues
with that program. She asked what their involvement would be in the program
with Ms. Logue noting the SBDC has changed their program in the past two
years. She indicated that they do refer clients to the SBDC to avoid overlap of
services and cited specific services the SBDC offers. She also commented on
the SCORE program as another resource.
Commissioner Cobb confirmed that the Bootcamp is a stand-alone program
with Ms. Logue explaining it is typically $400 and is a ten-week program in 2.5-
hour sessions.
Discussion was held regarding what is included in the Bootcamp program, how
it may incorporate private sponsorships and use of funding from the cities and
counties.
Commissioner Hawkins inquired about how long it would take to get the
program running . Ms. Logue responded the main time constraint would be
locating the right person to run the program and locating the program space.
She explained the type of person that they would look for and how the search
would be conducted.
Commissioner Hawkins asked about the city and county partnerships and
confirmed those were created at the outset of each of those programs.
Ms. Logue noted that, throughout the history of their program, only three
incubators have been shut down and that was due to lack of sufficient funding.
She commented that the dynamics of city/county partnerships work best.
Mr. Panepinto explained that a city/county relationship does not mean the
county dictates what is done in the program.
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Ms. Logue commented on the need for long term commitment and building
infrastructure in order for companies to build and stay local.
Commissioner Hawkins asked if they have inquired into other Lake County
cities with Ms. Logue responding they haven't sought out but they did receive a
call from the city of Mount Dora and they are scheduled to meet with her
regarding the program.
Commissioner Hawkins asked if they would give the City time to consider the
program before they approach other cities with Mr. Panepinto and Ms. Logue
responding they are there because the City asked for their assistance and they
will assist any community that approaches them for assistance.
Vice Mayor Lee stated she is a member of the Lake Sumter State College
Board of Trustees and asked how they would connect with Lake Sumter and
Lake Tech.
Ms. Logue responded one of the metrics they track are how many of a
company's employees are students at the local educational facilities.
Vice Mayor Lee asked where the fees go that are charged for the traction
program and the Bootcamp program with Ms. Logue stating that they go to
support the cost of staff time, materials and, sometimes, additional professional
assistance. She commented on how someone appreciates the program more
if they have paid into it.
Vice Mayor Lee asked if they annually assess their program's success and do
more of their participants stay in the area rather than moving out of the area.
Ms. Logue responded they do regular assessment of the program and the
progress of the individual participants. She added that the participants tend to
be more likely to stay in the area. She also stated they meet regularly with the
participants.
Mr. Panepinto noted they would provide reports at least once or twice a year to
the Commission regarding the program's progress. He indicated they would
also advise the City on retaining those businesses.
Vice Mayor Lee commented on the City's efforts to figure out "who they are"
and asked if they could help the City with that and whether or not they could
also work with the high school students.
Ms. Logue indicated that they have had some interaction with high schools and
middle schools; however, that has been primarily where the School District has
some type of entrepreneur program. She noted their closest relationship has
been in Seminole County as part of their "pathways" program where they place
students in summer internships.
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Vice Mayor Lee reiterated her question regarding if they could assist with the
City's visioning process.
Ms. Logue stated they could contribute to that; however, their expertise is not
in that area but they could participate as a component.
Commissioner Hawkins confirmed they would work with the City Manager and
Economic Development Director to tailor the program to the City's needs.
Mayor Holland commented on the City's need to make a decision regarding the
downtown properties and how they will need assistance for the businesses that
will be in that area. He asked for a consensus for staff to work on the program
and look at what funding may be available.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to move
forward and bring it back for further consideration.
2.0 ADJOURNMENT: 6:05 P.M.
CHRISTINE HALLORAN
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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