Everett Salary Commission
Regular MeetingEverett, WA · March 9, 2017
Minutes
EVERETT SALARY REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING
March 9, 2017, 4:00 PM
Mayor’s Conference Room
Those present:
Commission Members:
Chris Adams
Tony Anthonissen
John Dickson
Angie Sievers
Kevin Sylvester
Bobby Thompson
Art Thomson
City Staff:
Bob Bolerjack, Executive Director
Sharon DeHaan, Labor Relations/Human Resources Director
Joni Siewert, Labor Relations/Human Resources Department, minutes
Christina Wiersma, City Attorney’s Office
Guest: Ramsey Ramerman, City Attorney’s Office
The meeting commenced 4:00 PM.
New Commission Members
Commission Chair Angie Sievers began the meeting by asking all to introduce themselves for the
benefit of the Commission’s two new members, Tony Anthonissen and Kevin Sylvester.
Angie Sievers called for a motion to appoint Tony Anthonissen to the Commission. Chris
Adams so moved, John Dickson seconded. The motion carried.
Angie Sievers called for a motion to appoint Kevin Sylvester to the Commission. Bobby
Thompson so moved, John Dickson seconded. The motion carried.
March 2, 2017 Minutes
Angie Sievers called for a motion to approve the March 2, 2017 minutes. Chris Adams so
moved, Bobby Thompson seconded. The motion carried.
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Future Meetings
Angie Sievers reviewed the Commission’s timeline. All meetings will be on Thursdays at 4:00
with the exception of April 11, which is a Tuesday. Public hearings will be held after the
meetings, at 5:00, March 16 and April 20. Christina Wiersma said she has publication set for the
public hearings in Saturday’s newspaper, and the information is on the website.
Angie Sievers requested that if a Commission member cannot attend a meeting to let her know.
Bob Bolerjack added that if a member misses two meetings in a row and is unexcused it can be
considered relinquishing the appointment to the Commission. John Dickson had stated in last
week’s meeting he cannot attend the April 20 session, and reiterated his offer to telephone in if
needed.
Public Records Act and Open Public Meetings Act
Ramsey Ramerman gave a Powerpoint presentation, prefacing his comments by saying that in
their role on the Salary Commission, both Acts apply to the Commission members. Beginning
with the Public Records Act, points he emphasized include:
A public record entails any writing relating to conduct regarding the performance of any
government function prepared, owned, used, or retained by a public agency
Everything is a writing, including texts, e-mails, electronic files, notes, something a
member writes on a handout
Avoid mixing e-mails, perhaps set up a separate account just for Salary Review business
Copy Christina Wiersma on any e-mails the Commission members send
o Christina Wiersma will maintain the record and the Commission members will
delete whatever copies they have
If there is a pending public disclosure request, don’t delete anything
There is a temporary exemption for information used in the deliberative process, which
goes away when the decision is made
Ramsey Ramerman next discussed the Open Public Meetings Act.
All meetings of the Salary Review Commission are subject to the Open Public Meetings
Act
A meeting occurs whenever a majority of the committee takes action, including
discussion
Serial meetings are always illegal
There was extensive discussion on what serial meetings are, and their consequences. They are a
series of meetings or communications that involve individuals only. Individually they don’t
involve the majority, but together they do. He gave the example of a mayor having a one-on-one
meeting with each council member. An entity can be fined for conducting serial meetings.
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John Dickson asked about fines, will the City pay? Ramsey Ramerman clarified that as long as
the Commission member does not have motivation to not comply s/he will not be subject to fine.
It is only if the member knows s/he violated the law. It is the City that will be fined.
Ramsey Ramerman continued with a discussion on collective intent. A member has to know and
intend to engage in an illegal meeting. There is not collective intent if one member goes to every
member one-on-one and they don’t know it’s happening with the other members.
There being no further questions, Ramsey Ramerman left the meeting.
Salary Information
Sharon DeHaan distributed information sheets on the history of the elected officials’ salaries, and
comparison to salaries in other jurisdictions. Points she highlighted include:
The City Council President is paid 30% higher than other Council members due to
additional duties
The City follows a strong full-time mayor and weak council model
Seattle is listed for information only, as it is generally not considered to be a comparable
In the past one of the Salary Commission’s concerns has been should Staff make more
money than the Mayor
o The past few Commissions decided they want the Mayor to be paid higher than
the highest paid staff person
John Dickson asked why the Tacoma mayor’s salary seems low. Sharon DeHaan pointed out
information at the bottom of the sheet about Tacoma also having a city manager.
Sharon DeHaan added she didn’t include medical benefits information because the Commission
is not tasked with determining benefits. Tony Anthonissen asked if benefits should be included
as they are part of the total package. Sharon DeHaan replied if the Commission wants to it can
consider it. She added Staff is working on it, not all cities have responded yet.
Tony Anthonissen asked that additional information be gathered about if any of the jurisdictions
have a minimum number of meetings to attend. Sharon DeHaan gave the information that the
City of Everett pays a monthly salary, does not pay by the meeting.
Sharon DeHaan distributed a sheet of Council assignments, as prepared by the City Council
office. John Dickson asked why some were printed in bold, Sharon DeHaan replied it designates
the Council member is chair or otherwise a member of the committee.
Tony Anthonissen asked about the dates given, do they designate minimum meetings? Sharon
DeHaan replied they designate when the neighborhood meeting is held, for example the 4th
Tuesday of each month.
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Tony Anthonissen disclosed one Council member on the list was a tenant of his, but the lease
ended close to a year ago.
Sharon DeHaan discussed Municipal Court Judges. Historically their salaries have been tied to
that of State District Court Judges, who receive their raises in September. Everyone else in the
City receives their raises in January. Last September the Judges received 2%, as proposed by the
State Salary Commission. This cycle they propose 4% in 2017, and in 2018 a 2% increase. The
City has two Municipal Court Judges. Judge Wynne is filling a vacant position while the City
waits for the next election.
John Dickson asked when the State Salary Commission’s work will be done. Sharon DeHaan
replied May, so it will not be done by the time this Commission makes its decision. She
distributed a sheet showing what the State Salary Commission is proposing. She added the State
is looking at 2017 and 2018, while the City’s Commission is looking at 2018 and 2019.
Sharon DeHaan distributed a chart on comparison of medical premium cost sharing in other
cities. Staff asked for the most popular plan, as most entities have more than one plan. She
emphasized not every medical plan is equal. A City of Everett elected official pays just over
$2,000 per year for family coverage. Art Thomson asked if the Bellingham figure is an error,
99.7% is the employee’s share of family coverage. Sharon DeHaan will investigate.
John Dickson observed that his employer pays toward his coverage, but doesn’t pay toward his
family’s. Sharon DeHaan pointed out that in the public sector salary has been historically lower
but also the benefits have been historically better. Also, the City has unions whose benefits have
to be individually negotiated.
Tony Anthonissen said politicians raise funds from outside to run for public office, so they
should be regarded differently.
Future Meetings
Sharon DeHaan asked if further information was wanted for next time. Nothing was
immediately requested. Angie Sievers asked that questions be e-mailed to her and Christina
Wiersma to help guide further discussion.
Angie Sievers asked if the Commission members want to invite other speakers, such as elected
officials. Tony Anthonissen said the Commission’s job is to go through raw data, deal with pure
math, he is not interested in having them talk and introduce bias. The other new Commission
member, Kevin Sylvester, said he would like to hear from them. Angie Sievers explained the
elected officials don’t have job descriptions, so speaking to the Commission allows them to
explain the jobs they do. Tony Anthonissen countered they ran for office and made public
statements about what they would do with the job.
Chris Adams said in the Charter the Commission has the duty to get information. Art Thomson
added that when he was a new Commission member it was beneficial to hear the presentations,
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but he recommended they be limited and focused. Angie Sievers asked Christina Wiersma for
scheduling assistance, no more than two per session. Christina Wiersma shared that next week
elected officials will not be available due to the National League of Cities conference in
Washington DC.
Christina Wiersma announced that Susy Haugen, Finance Manager/Treasurer, is on the schedule
for a budget discussion next Thursday. The meeting will be at 4:00, with the public hearing at
5:00.
John Dickson asked Sharon DeHaan if she can give 2017 information on pay increases for the
union contracts. She replied the cost of living for 2017 was 1.8%, which is based on the June to
June consumer price index for Seattle/Bremerton/Tacoma. Police management received 1.8% in
2017. Transit has a two year contract, 2017 2.2%, 2018 2.5%. Fire received 2.5% in 2017. All
others are in negotiation.
Tony Anthonissen asked if cost of living for 2017 is 1.8%, what will it be for 2018 and 2019?
Sharon DeHaan replied that won’t be known until the end of July for 2018.
The meeting adjourned 5:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Joni Siewert
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Agenda
AGENDA
Everett Citizens Commission on Salaries of Elected Officials
Thursday, March 9, 2017
4 p.m.
th
10 Floor Mayor’s Conference Room
Wall Street Building
2930 Wetmore Ave, Everett
1. Introductions, announcements, and appointment of nominated
members
2. Review and approval of minutes from March 2, 2017 meeting
3. Review timeline and tentative public hearing dates
4. Open Public Meetings Act/Public Records Act, Ramsey Ramerman,
Assistant City Attorney
5. Salary Information and Discussion
6. Next meeting date and public hearing:
Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 4 pm followed by the 1st Public Hearing
7. Adjourn
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