Board of Zoning Appeals
Regular MeetingFalls Church, VA · January 14, 2016
Minutes
1 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
2 City Council Chambers
3 300 Park Avenue
4 Falls Church, Virginia 22046
5 January 14, 2016
6 7:30 p.m.
7
8 1. CALL TO ORDER
9
10 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: I would like to call to order the
11 January 14, 2016, meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
12 I'd like to ask for a roll call please.
13
14 2. ROLL CALL
15
16 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
17 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Here.
18 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
19 MR. KRASNER: Here.
20 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
21 (No response.)
22 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
23 MR. HOWELL: Here.
24 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
25 MR. JONES: Here.
26 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
27
28 3. PETITIONS
29
30 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Next item of Business is Petitions.
31 Are there any Petitions here before us this evening?
32 Seeing none, we'll move into New Business.
33
34 4. NEW BUSINESS:
35 a. Election of officers
36
37 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: The first order of New Business is
38 the election of officers. We have three positions to elect. We
39 have the chairman, the vice chairman, and the secretary. So I think
40 we'll go in that order as well.
41 So if any of my Board members have a nomination for
42 the chair position.
43 MR. KRASNER: I would move that we nominate Darcy
44 Williamson as our Chair, continue as Chairman for the year 2016.
45 MR. HOWELL: I will second that.
46 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Is there any discussion among the
47 Board or shall we move to a vote?
48 (No response.)
49 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And let the record show that Mr.
50 Calabrese entered just a moment ago.
51 So I'd like to have a roll call vote on the nomination for
52 Darcy Williamson as Chairman of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
53 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
54 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
55 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
56 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
57 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
58 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
59 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
60 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
61 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
62 MR. JONES: Yes.
63 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Thank you.
64 The next position is the Vice Chairman of the Board of
65 Zoning Appeals and I'd like to open that up for any nominations.
66 And I would like to offer a nomination of Brent Krasner as
67 Vice Chairman of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
68 MR. HOWELL: I'll second that.
69 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Any discussion among the Board?
70 (No response.)
71 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Roll call vote please.
72 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
73 MR. JONES: Yes.
74 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
75 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
76 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
77 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
78 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
79 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
80 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
81 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
82
83 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Thank you.
84 And the third position is the secretary of the Board of
85 Zoning Appeals.
86 Does anyone have a nomination for that?
87 MR. HOWELL: I'd like to nominate Ms. Rouzi.
88 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Is there a second?
89 MR. CALABRESE: Second it.
90 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Is there any discussion among
91 the Board?
92 MR. BOYLE: We have to require her to bring in pictures of
93 her new twins.
94 MS. ROUZI: I will do that.
95 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Ms. Rouzi, please make it so.
96 As well as a roll call vote on that.
97 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
98 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
99 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
100 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
101 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
102 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
103 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
104 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
105 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
106 MR. JONES: Yes.
107 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. That completes the election of
108 officers for 2016.
109
110 b. Review and adoption of Rules of Procedure
111
112 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: The next order of New Business is the
113 review and adoption of Rules and Procedures. We all are familiar
114 with these and have received them in advance and are in possession of
115 them.
116 Does anybody have any discussion or proposed amendments to
117 the current Board of Zoning Appeals Rules of Procedure?
118 MR. KRASNER: I don't have any revisions to make tonight.
119 I think by and large the Rules of Procedure are adequate.
120 Again, I would just put out there that given some of the
121 changes to the State Code related to Variance law that came into
122 effect July of last year, you know, there were certain rules related
123 to ex parte communications and the amount of time applicants are
124 allotted to present their case that it might be a smart idea to
125 incorporate those into these Rules at some point.
126 I'm sure the City Attorney's aware of some of these changes
127 and there are probably parts of City Code that need to be updated to
128 reflect the new State Code. And whether it's going to be State Code
129 or whether it's going to be in the City Code or in these Rules, it
130 probably will be a good idea to memorialize those. I mean the State
131 Code governs regardless whether we put it in or not. I think just to
132 make sure everyone is on the same page it probably would be wise to
133 do that.
134 It's not something that has to happen immediately but
135 perhaps Ms. Rouzi in her spare time or Mr. Boyle could work with the
136 City Attorney. I would be happy to do some drafts too but I think
137 essentially lifting the State Code language and putting it into the
138 Rules might suffice.
139 MR. BOYLE: So on ex parte communications.
140 MR. KRASNER: Ex parte communications, correct. There are
141 Rules, we discussed this in the summer, and there are Rules about
142 essentially limiting ex parte communications on Variance cases with
143 City staff. So things like that. And there are Rules about making
144 sure the applicant has the same amount of time to present their case
145 as City staff.
146 Things like that, I think it might be a good idea to put
147 them into the Rules so everyone is aware of them and informed when
148 they come to make an application here.
149 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: I think it's a good idea.
150 Ms. Rouzi, could you make sure this is on our Agenda for
151 next month, where you can provide an update on progress toward
152 getting those consolidated and able for us to review them and
153 incorporate them into the Rules of Procedure.
154 MS. ROUZI: Yes.
155 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Any other discussion on the Rules
156 of Procedure?
157 (No response.)
158 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Would anyone like to make a motion to
159 adopt these Rules of Procedure for 2016?
160 MR. KRASNER: Sure. I'll move that we adopt the Rules of
161 Procedure as presented tonight for 2016.
162 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Is there a second?
163 MR. HOWELL: I second.
164 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Roll call vote.
165 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
166 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
167 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
168 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
169 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
170 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
171 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
172 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
173 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
174 MR. JONES: Yes.
175 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Thank you very much. They are
176 approved.
177
178 C. Approval of 2016 meeting calendar
179
180 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: The third piece of New Business is the
181 approval of the 2016 meeting calendar. We all have it in front of
182 here. I'd just like to ask each of you to take a look at it and see
183 if you have any questions or comments. Eleven meetings throughout
184 the year, there's no scheduled August meeting at this time and just
185 follows the typical schedule that we've had for any number of years
186 now.
187 MR. BOYLE: I'll say that from time to time we do conflict
188 with some of the religious holidays. This year it did not seem to
189 impact anything, so none of these dates fall out of the usual pattern
190 of the second Thursday after the first Monday. Probably next year
191 we'll have to adjust something but all of these were clear.
192 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Thank you.
193 Is there a motion to approve these?
194 MR. HOWELL: I move that we approve the meeting dates for
195 2016.
196 MR. KRASNER: Second.
197 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Roll call vote.
198 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
199 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
200 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
201 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
202 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
203 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
204 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
205 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
206 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
207 MR. JONES: Yes.
208 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
209 These will then be posted on the City's website?
210 MR. BOYLE: Yes.
211
212 d. Approval of the December 17, 2015, meeting minutes
213
214 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: The next order of business is the
215 approval of the December 17, 2015, meeting.
216 MR. BOYLE: An individual known to staff neglected to send
217 Ann the recording until late last week so when those are ready we
218 will get them to the Board.
219 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: So we will have those on the meeting
220 agenda for February 11th. We'll review those as part of that
221 meeting.
222 MR. BOYLE: Yes.
223 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Do we need to move to continue this
224 Agenda item to next month?
225 MR. BOYLE: I don't think so. In fact, if the Board
226 wishes, I'll send the electronic copies and they can be an Agenda
227 item or you can discuss it, an ex parte communication. I don't think
228 we need a motion.
229 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes, let's just handle it next month. I
230 think that's fine.
231 e. Discussion of policy for electronic, remote meeting
232 participation for members of the BZA
233
234 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And then the next item of New Business,
235 and for those in attendance, you can see it's a lot of administrative
236 work this evening, we have before us a policy that was primarily from
237 State Code and it's the approved altered version from the City
238 Attorney, on the policy for electronic remote meeting participation
239 for members of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
240 In the past you've had to be present for a meeting and this
241 policy from State Code, again amended by the City Attorney for our
242 use, is before us now.
243 So I'd like everybody to take a look at that and see if
244 there's any discussion among the Board.
245 MR. KRASNER: I'm familiar with this provision from some
246 other work I do professionally. It's a good policy in general. The
247 key for folks to keep in mind is that it still requires a physical
248 quorum to be assembled. And I work with some Boards and Commissions
249 in my day job, there was an idea that perhaps the Board didn't have
250 to have a quorum assembled, but no, you still need to physically have
251 the quorum. It's to allow above and beyond that quorum, folks have
252 a conflict or an issue, there's a way that they can participate
253 through the telephone.
254 Nowadays, we can just go to technology. I don't know if
255 we're so advanced, we can have them Skype in. So generally it does
256 provide flexibility but State Code does require that the Board adopt,
257 any Board that is going to utilize that provision, that they must
258 adopt this policy to make it clear what the rules are for electronic
259 participation.
260 So in general, first I think it's a good thing but it
261 doesn't give us a free pass to all participate from the couch at
262 home. Some of us still have to show up.
263 MR. CALABRESE: A question: It doesn't appear, I haven't
264 read it in a while, to require that the remote participant have
265 access to the meeting materials, does it? Verbal or oral
266 participation without being able to access the materials that the
267 plaintiff or petitioner would submit, might not render as accurate of
268 a decision I would think.
269 MR. BOYLE: That's a good point. I don't think it does.
270 The member who's attending remotely would have anything the Board
271 received in advance of the meeting, but if the applicant were to
272 arrive with additional information, we might as staff, we might in
273 communicating with the applicant leading up to the meeting, make sure
274 that they know that we need everything electronically and then we may
275 be able to actually send it at the time of the meeting.
276 MR. CALABRESE: Yeah, and is there a requirement that the
277 -- I guess I'm reading this now, one of us simply state within 15
278 minutes of the meeting or five minutes that we're not attending or
279 does it require a notice of any period of time?
280 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: It simply says on or before the day of
281 the meeting. Which, I think it actually points out that, if it's one
282 of you, you would notify me, due to an emergency or specific matter
283 and identify that with specificity. That can happen.
284 MR. KRASNER: I believe ultimately the Chair has some
285 discretion on whether or not to allow it.
286 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And the other thing I'll point out which
287 I think it's worth all of us just keeping in mind is that no member
288 can participate by electronic means more than two times in a calender
289 year so it's not meant to be a substitute for a meeting.
290 MR. KRASNER: Right. I see it more as being an insurance
291 policy on perhaps a day where we had something, someone had been
292 looking to participate in and something comes up or a case where we
293 were expecting a lot of discussion and the member wanted to
294 participate. I don't think it's something that we'll use often but I
295 don't see too much danger in having it as an option. In the event,
296 probably the unusual event that it comes up.
297 MR. CALABRESE: Well, if we wished to place additional
298 conditions, we could I suppose on this. This is being presented to
299 us as a proposal, is that correct?
300 MR. BOYLE: Yes. It's an option available to the Board.
301 The Planning Commission was very interested in this. They had a
302 situation where one of their very well-attended meetings where there
303 was a lot of discussion back and forth and one of the members was
304 unable to participate and it was raised either at the meeting or
305 thereafter that there was this option.
306 So the City Attorney researched it, packaged the language
307 for each Board to consider. It's not a requirement. It's an option
308 for this Board to adopt. The text comes from the State, the format
309 of what's in front of you was approved by the City Attorney and then
310 that's followed up with the motion that the City Attorney prepared to
311 make it part of your Rules or part of your Procedures anyway.
312 I'd suggest if you want to adopt this, just to give it a
313 place to reside, to put it in the Rules of Procedure or reference it
314 in the Rules of Procedure and take it from there.
315 I think historically the times we've had Board members not
316 be able to attend, it's because something happened, a car problem, a
317 family emergency just prior to a meeting. And in that case, they'll
318 be handling whatever the family crisis is and not be able to attend
319 electronically.
320 But it's an option for the Board in case you know you're
321 going to be elsewhere, we'll have to develop some ways of making it
322 as practical as possible. Mr. Calabrese pointed out, what if
323 additional materials arrive.
324 We'll have to discuss. Depending on the nature of the
325 case, there's been language in the past about if there's contention
326 between applicants, of the Board having the option not to accept
327 materials if the other side hasn't received it. The Board probably
328 has that option too, unless it's something that you think is going to
329 be helpful.
330 In that case, staff will just be diligent in making sure we
331 have electronic copies and we can probably send them to you live,
332 right from the meeting then.
333 But in general, this is an option for the Board and I don't
334 think we would have had too many opportunities to use this if it were
335 in place in the past, but the Planning Commission at least is
336 adopting it as part of theirs. I don't know if there's any other
337 Boards or Commissions that are going to do it.
338 MR. KRASNER: Well, certainly I can see a benefit. If
339 there's unusual circumstances, perhaps on a day where we have to have
340 everyone present, where we had an even number and was concerned about
341 it. I think the Planning Commission meeting you're referencing had a
342 split vote and they were even three to three on a case and if they
343 had their seventh member they would not have been deadlocked.
344 MR. CALABRESE: My only concern would be, as you mentioned
345 the example, a car breaking down. So let's say they were on the road
346 and they may or may not have access to the papers. They certainly
347 wouldn't have access to the materials presented at that moment and
348 then maybe or maybe not the materials previously provided. So then
349 we're asking them, yes, they would be present but I would think for
350 the petitioner, they're not getting the full benefit of the Board
351 member's attention, if they're not fully informed.
352 So that would be my only concern. You know, I think these
353 Rules are fine. I think formally the Chair would want to just make
354 sure that if they were to participate, they feel that they can,
355 because they have the requisite knowledge or the materials.
356 MR. KRASNER: The only reason I see it happening is if
357 somebody knows in advance they're going to be traveling on business,
358 out of town, for folks that travel.
359 MR. CALABRESE: Yes, that would be helpful.
360 MR. BOYLE: Right, your flight's canceled.
361 MR. HOWELL: I just have a practical question. We have the
362 technology presumably. Are we going to have a thing on the table for
363 an audio presence for somebody's that's not here? It can be set up
364 in the hour or two, it might be all we have in terms of notice.
365 MR. BOYLE: Yeah, the equipment I'm thinking of is not
366 complicated to set up. So we could on short notice get it up and
367 running.
368 One thing comes to mind. The applicants, when a member's
369 missing, the applicants have the option to continue. Perhaps we
370 offer that to them and say we have a member willing to attend
371 remotely and that member says they have none of the materials
372 available but they're confident, kind of how you address it if you're
373 going to recuse yourself. I'm going to identify the potential
374 conflict but I'm able to perform the duties and take the vote. State
375 that to the applicant that I'm in an airport, I do not have my
376 materials but I'm familiar with the case, comfortable to proceed, and
377 give them the option to go forward or not.
378 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And the other item I see here is the
379 Board of Zoning Appeals would vote to approve such participation.
380 That's 1 B.
381 MR. CALABRESE: That's a good point.
382 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: So if we were looking at a voluminous
383 stack of recently provided materials and someone did not have that,
384 we could use our judgment to make the determination that it didn't
385 fit; conversely we could use our judgment to determine that we would
386 be able to proceed.
387 So I think that actually provides additional, I was going
388 to say flexibility but it allows us to evaluate a particular
389 situation.
390 MR. CALABRESE: Yes, I agree.
391 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And I think having this as an option,
392 this is what it does. It presents it as an option, if we need it. I
393 think we're all committed to be here in person. It's just an option
394 that comes up.
395 MR. BOYLE: So essentially if something is received that
396 you all felt was a significant change and the member that's missing
397 would benefit by seeing it, then you could advise them this is
398 something that I think is important that you have time to study.
399 MR. HOWELL: But the option would be available in that
400 situation if we adopt it.
401 MR. BOYLE: Yeah.
402 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Well, that was a good discussion. I
403 know we have before us some language that could form the basis for a
404 motion if we chose to move forward with this, I think we all received
405 those in the records. So I'll just ask if anyone would like to make
406 a motion on the policy for remote meeting participation.
407 MR. CALABRESE: I'll make a motion to approve the remote --
408 the policy in participation of meetings through electronic means.
409 MR. HOWELL: I'll second.
410 MR. KRASNER: I'll propose a friendly amendment. I would
411 just say, amend the motion to say that we are moving to amend this
412 policy to our Rules of Procedure. And the best way to memorialize
413 these is to have them either as an attachment or actually the
414 document itself.
415 MR. BOYLE: If the Board agrees, staff can insert it as
416 Roman Numeral 7 in the Rules of Procedure.
417 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yeah.
418 MR. BOYLE: And we'll bring that to the next meeting.
419
420 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Mr. Calabrese, would you accept that?
421 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
422 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: And the second?
423 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
424 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Is there a roll call vote please.
425 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
426 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
427 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
428 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
429 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
430 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
431 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
432 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
433 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
434 MR. JONES: Yes.
435 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. The motion carries.
436 That completes the items of New Business that we have.
437
438 6. OTHER BUSINESS:
439 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Is there any Other Business?
440 MR. BOYLE: Maybe ask the Board to have our guests
441 introduce themselves. I believe we have citizens interested in the
442 alternate position for this Board. If they could rise.
443 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: This is the audience participation
444 portion of the evening.
445 That's a wonderful idea. Who's here and who's interested
446 in becoming an alternate?
447 MR. GATCH: My name is Thomas Gatch. I'm interested in
448 becoming an alternate. I worked with legislative government affairs,
449 with the Tennessee Society of Professional Engineers, obviously not
450 Virginia. Interested in rules, policy, procedures, things like that
451 so I thought this would be a good place to start out.
452 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Wonderful. Nice to meet you.
453 MR. SPROUSE: Patrick Sprouse. I've been in real estate
454 development and real estate corporation for a number of years. Went
455 down to Texas for a few years, moved back to Falls Church two years
456 ago. So it's nice to be home and just find hopefully some ways to
457 participate in the local community.
458 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Wonderful. Welcome back.
459 Any other alternates?
460 MR. THEOLOGIS: Theodore Theologis. I've been an owner in
461 the City for about ten years, although most of it I've been an
462 absentee owner, the landlord. I'm an attorney and a real estate
463 broker but I moved back to the City and was interested in
464 participating.
465 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Well, that's great.
466 Okay. Well, thanks for attending tonight. You'll have
467 either Mr. Krasner or myself will probably have a chance to meet all
468 of you a little more. I look forward to that, to have one other
469 member of the Board to move the process forward. That's very good.
470 Like I said, we usually have actual matters before us
471 beyond administrative activities.
472 Any Other Business?
473 (No response.)
474
475 7. OLD BUSINESS
476
477 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Okay. Any Old Business? I don't think
478 so.
479 (No response.)
480 8. ADJOURNMENT
481
482 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Is there a motion to adjourn?
483 MR. KRASNER: So moved.
484 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Is there a second?
485 MR. CALABRESE: Second.
486 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Roll call vote.
487 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Williamson.
488 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: Yes.
489 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Krasner.
490 MR. KRASNER: Yes.
491 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese.
492 MR. CALABRESE: Yes.
493 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Howell.
494 MR. HOWELL: Yes.
495 RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Jones.
496 MR. JONES: Yes.
497 CHAIR WILLIAMSON: We are adjourned. Have a good evening,
498 everybody.
Agenda
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
City Council Chambers
300 Park Avenue, Falls Church, VA 22046
January 14, 2016 7:30 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Petitions
4. New Business
a. Election of officers
b. Review and adoption of Rules of Procedure
c. Approval of 2016 meeting calendar
d. Approval of December 17, 2015 meeting minutes
e. Discussion of policy for electronic, remote meeting participation for members of the BZA
6 Other Business
7. Old Business
8. Adjournment
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