Board of Zoning Appeals
Regular MeetingFalls Church, VA · November 18, 2021
Minutes
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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING
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VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING
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Thursday, November 18, 2021
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7:30 p.m.
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1. CALL TO ORDER
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MR. BARTLETT: I'm going to call to order the
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November 18, 2021, Board of Zoning Appeals meeting and
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then we will proceed with a roll call.
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MS. ROUZI: All right. Thank you. Just so
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everybody is aware, the meeting is now being recorded.
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Good evening. This meeting will be held
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pursuant to and in compliance with the Virginia Freedom
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of Information Act, Section 2.2-3708.2 and state and
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local legislation adopted to allow for continued
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government operation during the COVID-19 declared
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emergency. All participating members will be present at
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this meeting through electronic means. All members of
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the public may view this electronic meeting via the
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meeting link listed above the Agenda or in the City's
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website calendar. Thank you.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you, Akida.
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At this time we will proceed with a roll call
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of members of the Board.
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2. ROLL CALL
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Calabrese, is
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absent.
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Mr. Bartlett.
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MR. BARTLETT: Here.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Kien. Mr. Kien is
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not here yet.
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Mr. Misleh.
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MR. MISLEH: Here.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Eppler.
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MR. EPPLER: Here.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Ms. Ward.
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MS. WARD: Here.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Thank you.
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3. PETITIONS
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you, Akida.
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At this time I will ask if there are any
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Petitions in front of the Board this evening?
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MR. BOYLE: No, sir.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you, Mr. Boyle.
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4. OLD BUSINESS
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a. Special Use Permit application U1623-21 by Lisa
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Wills, applicant, to allow a daycare use otherwise not
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permitted by right, on premises known as 128 South
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Spring Street, RPC #52-203-037 of the Falls Church Real
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Property Records, zoned R-1A (Low Density Residential).
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MR. BARTLETT: Item 4 on the Agenda is Old
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Business but I understand that that request has been
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postponed until further notice.
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And so we will go to New Business for the
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evening.
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I'm really looking forward to one variance
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application this evening. I will ad hoc here, I believe
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we were up to after 11 p.m. the last time we had a
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meeting so having this one application in front of us
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will be great.
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MR. BOYLE: That's correct. Plus it's one
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which the Board doesn't often see.
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Before we get going on it, how many Board
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members do we have? Are we down one?
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MR. BARTLETT: We have four tonight, John.
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MR. BOYLE: I think technically that's short
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one so we should give the applicant the option.
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MS. ROUZI: Just a quick update, everyone. I
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just got an email from Mr. Kien. He's trying to log on.
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He might be having some technical issues though so we'll
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probably see him soon.
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MR. BOYLE: Why don't we hold that thought for
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later.
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MR. BARTLETT: Akida, I'm going to ask a favor
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of you. Actually, we'll do this first.
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I'm just logged in as a guest this evening. I
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don't have the actual -- one second.
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So before we begin, Mr. Brobst -- how do you
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pronounce your name, sir?
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You're on mute so if you could just quickly
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unmute yourself, that would be great.
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MR. BROBST: Am I off mute now?
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MR. BARTLETT: Yes, you are. Thank you.
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MR. BROBST: So, yes, I'm Don Brobst.
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MR. BARTLETT: Okay. Don Brobst.
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As chair, I'm just going to swear you in.
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(Witness sworn.)
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MR. BARTLETT: Are there any other members of
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the public or related to this application that intend to
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speak tonight?
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(No response.)
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5. NEW BUSINESS
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A. Variance Application V1628-21 by Donald
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Brobst, applicant and owner, for a variance to Section
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48-1102(j)(1) to allow a generator in front yard along
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the Greenwich Street frontage on premises known as 601 N
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West Street, RPC #51-209-016 of the Falls Church real
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Property records, zoned R-1B, Medium Density
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Residential.
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MR. BARTLETT: Okay. Hearing none, I will
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just call Variance Application V1628-21 by Donald
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Brobst, applicant/owner, for a variance to Section
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48-1102(j)(1) to allow a generator in the front yard
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along the Greenwich Street frontage on premises known as
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601 North West Street.
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So usually what we do, Mr. Brobst, is we ask
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for staff from Falls Church City to provide us a summary
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of the scenario that we're facing, information about why
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a variance is required for this particular activity, a
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little bit about the zoning scenarios. And then once
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they give us a little bit of a background on the status
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of this application, then we'll move to you to describe
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your project --
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MR. BROBST: I noticed that one of my
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neighbors just logged on.
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MR. BARTLETT: Great. Thank you very much.
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At this time what we're going to do is we're
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going to have Mr. Boyle provide a short background
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statement on this zoning issue.
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MR. BOYLE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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And as you stated, it's a request to install a
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generator in a location that the Code prohibits without
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a variance and specifically corner lots have two front
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yards along the street frontages and then the two
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interior sides are sides, side setbacks, side yards.
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There is no rear yard.
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So in this particular case I think the best
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location for this piece of equipment happens to be in
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the yard abutting the street and very simply the Code
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does not allow staff to approve that and it requires the
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variance for the location from the Board of Zoning
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Appeals.
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I don't think we've seen a variance
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application for this particular request but the basic
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issue this Board sees very often with our corner lots
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and expansions to structures and what have you. So it's
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a commonly raised issue for corner properties but it's a
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new, in my experience I don't think we've had a request
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for a piece of equipment like a generator in a yard
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abutting the street.
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You have an application from the property
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owner and letters of support from the impacted neighbors
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and some technical specs for the equipment. All in all,
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a pretty complete package.
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So that's it in a nutshell and with that I
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will defer to Mr. Brobst for his presentation.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you very much, Mr. Boyle.
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MR. BROBST: The property I have, the back,
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the two sides as opposed to the front are severely
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impacted by flooding at times so it's a very swampy
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area. So the area along the Greenwich side of the house
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is probably the most stable and driest portion of the
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house area. It's also where the air conditioning unit
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is and the gas line and the electrical associated with
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the furnace and the hot water heater run down along the
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interior floor joists and don't break the integrity of
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the joists. For it to be put in the back of the yard,
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we would have to break the integrity of those joists and
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break up the finished portion of the basement.
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So the shortest run for the gas line is from
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the front left side of the house parallel with the
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joists and would be the shortest run for both the
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electrical and the gas lines.
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And like I said, I've talked to all the
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neighbors and none of the neighbors had any objections,
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particularly when I showed them the technical specs on
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the noise that was generated or would be generated. It
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turns out the normal gasoline-powered lawn mower
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actually generates more noise than this gas generator
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would do.
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I've also told them that, as needed, I would
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put bushes or fencing around there if they thought that
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it was still noisy but I don't think noise is going to
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be an issue.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you very much. I
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appreciate your information here.
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I see members of the public. I just ask, do
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you intend to speak this evening, if you are more than
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willing to.
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Hi, Rosemary.
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MS. ZISKIND: Hi.
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MR. BARTLETT: You don't have to talk. I was
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just asking if you were thinking about it.
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MS. ZISKIND: I will talk if it will support
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Don's request.
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MR. BARTLETT: We'll get to that. I was just
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making sure. I just see some faces, that's all.
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MS. ZISKIND: Okay.
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MR. BARTLETT: So now I'm just going to open
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it up to the Board of Zoning Appeals for any comments or
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questions they may have for the applicant at this time.
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MR. EPPLER: Hi, Mr. Brobst.
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MR. BROBST: Hi.
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MR. EPPLER: I'm sorry because I did not have
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a chance to review your file in advance but I see on
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here you have, you've got six neighbors on there and I
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just wondered if you've spoken with all of them. I know
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you said you had some letters and everybody was in favor
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of this? Or nobody had any objections.
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MR. BROBST: Yes. I've got actual letters
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from five of the six. The sixth one was really behind
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some bushes and didn't have a direct line to the
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generator. But each of the five was supportive of my
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petition.
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MR. EPPLER: Great. Thank you so much.
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MR. BARTLETT: I have a couple of questions.
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Mr. Boyle, can you explain to me when this
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particular or do you have any idea as to when this
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particular requirement for appliances or utilities to be
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located in rear yards or not in a front yard?
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MR. BOYLE: I believe there's been a provision
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for things like generators in the Code for decades. I'd
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have to look to confirm.
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What has changed over the years as the Board's
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heard, is that since about 1988, corner lots acquired
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two front yards along the street. It used to be the
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narrow portion of the property was the front and then
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the other street frontage was called a street side yard
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with a very generous setback. I believe it was one half
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of the neighbor's. So if it was a 30 foot setback on
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the neighbor's further up the street then his street
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side yard would only be 15 feet.
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Then in 1988 the Code was changed.
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So I think we've had Code for equipment like
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this for many, many years but the yard definitions
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changed.
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MR. BARTLETT: And I can imagine like if the
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neighbor towards the City I guess, on North West,
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towards your left, Mr. Brobst, if they wanted to install
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a generator they could install it on their side yard.
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MR. MISLEH: It appears they may already have
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one.
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MR. BROBST: Yeah. Two of the four corners of
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that intersection between Greenwich and North West
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currently have generators on the front side, if you
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will, and one of them -- I mean Rosemary has one and one
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that's -- it's not catty-corner, but it's kind of that
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irregular intersection there but on the side there's
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also a generator there. So two of the four already have
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generators on frontal property line.
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MR. BARTLETT: So it seems like at some point
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someone installed one that was either permitted or had
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some variance or didn't get a permit or didn't get
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variances, and here we are with you having to obtain a
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variance from us and we appreciate you going through the
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proper channels to do so.
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MR. BROBST: Thank you.
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MR. BARTLETT: I don't have any other
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questions.
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I feel like you have shown, you've reached out
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to your neighbors, you reached out to the City, you
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tried to do everything you're supposed to do, due to a
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variety of factors, including drainage, weather, water,
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utilities, costs, etcetera, and co-locating a generator
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near your AC where the equipment that's already located,
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it seems like there's -- I actually looked at the
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pictures and there's some visual cover already in
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existence there, with your AC on the Greenwich Street
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side.
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I don't necessarily see any problems with this
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but I just want to make sure the rest of the Board had
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any other input or questions to ask or issues to
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consider.
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MR. MISLEH: Mr. Bartlett, I agree. I don't
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see any issue with this request. I think where it's
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being requested to locate the equipment is the right
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place to install it as well. So I'm in favor of making
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a motion to approve this application.
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MR. BARTLETT: Great.
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So usually what we do, is we ask you, as the
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applicant, Mr. Brobst, do you have any other questions
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for us or any other comments you would like to make?
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MR. BROBST: The only comment I'd like to make
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is I'd like to call out the staff for helping me through
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this process.
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MR. BARTLETT: Yeah, we can put that on the
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record. They're fantastic. Both John and Akida and
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their staff are wonderful in explaining things and
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making sure that our fellow citizens are aware of what
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they need to do and how to go about doing it and being
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great customer service advocates. I agree with you.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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So if there are no other comments, we'll close
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deliberation or close comments from the applicant and
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then the Board will provide final deliberation and
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comment and then we'll make a motion on your
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application.
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As I stated already, I don't have any problem
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moving forward with this. I think it's the appropriate
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thing to do, considering the time, place, and extent of
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what you're trying to do and I'll just leave it to see
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if there's anybody else who wants to make a comment
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before we make a motion on your application.
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MR. EPPLER: I would just agree with what you
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said, John. It seems like he's done everything
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according to the book and he's picked the right location
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and this is how it's supposed to be.
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MS. WARD: I reviewed the application and felt
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the same with the comments that everyone's made so I'm
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in support of it as well.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you, Christine.
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Peter, were you able to log in? I see some
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initials "PK". I just want to make sure that's you.
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MR. KIEN: I am here. I apologize. I was
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struggling a bit on the up front.
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MR. BARTLETT: That's fine.
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So without any further Board comments or
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comments from the public, I would make a motion to
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approve variance application V1628-21 by Donald Brobst,
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applicant/owner, for a variance to Section 48-1102(j)(1)
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to allow a generator in the front yard along Greenwich
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Street frontage on premises known as 601 North West
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Street, RPC #51-209-016 of the Falls Church Real
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Property records, zoned R-1B, Medium Density
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Residential.
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MR. MISLEH: I'll second that.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you.
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So with a motion and a second, Akida, we can
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do a roll call vote.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Okay.
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Mr. Bartlett.
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MR. BARTLETT: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Kien.
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MR. KIEN: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Misleh.
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MR. MISLEH: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Eppler.
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MR. EPPLER: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Ms. Ward.
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MS. WARD: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Thank you.
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MR. BARTLETT: All right. Mr. Brobst, your
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variance is approved. Congratulations.
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MR. BROBST: Thank you for your time and
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consideration.
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b. (Withdrawn) Variance application V1629-21 by
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Insight Property Group LLC, applicant and owner, for
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variances to Section 48-933 to allow 1) compact spaces
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and 2) placement of columns less than three (3) feet
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from the drive aisle within a parking garage, for the
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purpose of constructing a parking garage and mixed-use
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building on premises known as 100 N. Washington Street,
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127 E. Broad Street, 131 E. Broad Street and Park Place,
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Parcel (RPC Numbers 53-104-051, 53-104-036, 53-104-050,
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and 53-104-015 of the Falls Church Real Property
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records) zoned B-2, Central Business.
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MR. BARTLETT: It looks like we had another
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variance application that was withdrawn. So we're done
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with New Business at this time.
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6. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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a. Approval of the September 16, 2021, Meeting Minutes
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MR. BARTLETT: At this point we will move to
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approval of the minutes of the September 16, 2021,
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marathon session.
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I would just ask members of the Board to take
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your time for three to five minutes, or if you finish
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then let me know and we can just review these to make
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sure we're all comfortable and then move to a vote.
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(Minutes reviewed.)
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MR. BARTLETT: Akida, are you there? I have a
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question for you.
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MS. ROUZI: I'm here.
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MR. BARTLETT: So I am actually through the
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Special Use Permit and then down through a bunch of
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documents that are pages and then we finish with the
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Special Use permit application and then we go to the
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variances and they just provide a summary and applicants
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provided a presentation and then we voted. And then the
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same thing for the last three variance applications. It
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doesn't provide the actual text.
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MS. ROUZI: Yes, that's correct. What
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happened was the recording file was corrupt so it
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abruptly stopped where it then picks up a summary from
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our written notes. That's why we don't have a verbatim
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synopsis of that portion because the recording died at
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that point. We tried to get IT to recover the file but
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they couldn't figure it out and that's why.
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MR. BARTLETT: So what we have here is a basic
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summary of the other three New Business variance
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applications and it captures what was requested and the
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discussion that was provided in the vote. And I just
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need to make sure that that's sufficient. I don't see
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why it wouldn't be because they were approved.
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The only thing I see is, to me the only thing
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that is of concern is the variance for the Hill
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residence on Poplar, in that we, I believe we revised
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the characterization of the variance application to not
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necessarily just allow the 21.3 feet along the entire
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Poplar Drive frontage but just a portion and then a 26
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or so front setback in a different section.
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MS. ROUZI: That's correct. We actually
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captured that in the Resolution. The Resolution is not
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here but we can maybe sort of update the minutes to
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reflect the Resolution.
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MR. BARTLETT: Is there a way we can just
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bring that Resolution to the Board's attention next week
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as part of a second provision or can we just table the
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approval of these minutes until we have those as part of
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the minutes?
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MS. ROUZI: We can do either but the next --
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well, I guess it makes sense to table this and then I'll
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bring the Resolutions next time and then we can look at
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it as a package.
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MR. BARTLETT: Okay. Thank you.
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MR. BOYLE: And if that actual verbatim
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portion is missing, that would be a great spot to just
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insert, "See text of Resolution" at that point. It
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would be in the record then.
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MR. BARTLETT: Thank you. That works for me.
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So at this point, does anyone else have any
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comments or questions regarding the minutes of the
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September 16, 2021, meeting of the Board of Zoning
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Appeals?
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MR. EPPLER: John, this is Dale. I'm just
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wondering if because the file was corrupted if we have
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to give any notice to the people who attended besides
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ourselves.
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MR. BOYLE: I don't believe so but we haven't
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had it happen before so let me look into that.
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The product of that request is going to be the
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Resolution, so that we know at least is good.
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If this ever went up on appeal or something,
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that might be an interesting question from the Circuit
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Court.
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MR. EPPLER: Well, that's why I would rather
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that they knew about it in advance rather than claim
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some problem afterwards, whatever, that this was invalid
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because it wasn't recorded properly or something so.
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MR. BOYLE: Okay. I'll find out. We can have
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that discussion at the next meeting.
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MR. EPPLER: Thank you.
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MR. BARTLETT: Procedurally, do I have to
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request a vote on tabling this until next meeting or can
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I just table it to the next meeting?
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MR. BOYLE: I suggest you move to table it and
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then ask if there's any objections.
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MR. BARTLETT: I'd like to make a motion to
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table the approval of the September 16, 2021, minutes
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until the December 2021 Board of Zoning Appeals meeting.
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Is there any objection?
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(No response.)
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MR. BARTLETT: None being heard, please note
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in the record that the approval of minutes is tabled
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until the December 2021 meeting.
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7. OTHER BUSINESS
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MR. BARTLETT: At this time is there any other
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business from the City for the Board tonight?
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MR. BOYLE: On a personal note, I think Akida
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knows this is coming, today is my 19th anniversary with
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the City. And rather than give two weeks notice, I've
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given them a year notice to find a replacement and end
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my career with the City on a nice even 20 years of
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service.
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So someone on this recording has expressed an
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interest in taking on those duties but it's been a good
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19 years and we're going to give it one more run and try
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to get all these projects built and then my wife and I
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are moving to West Virginia.
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MR. BARTLETT: Wonderful.
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MR. MISLEH: That's great.
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MR. BARTLETT: It's obviously not the last
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good-bye but thank you so much, John, for sharing that
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with us and all your service.
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MR. BOYLE: Yeah, I wasn't sure how to, as the
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sands start falling out of the hourglass, when do I
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raise it. I informed the City so I figured I'd inform
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the Board tonight.
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We've got a good solid year and I hope we're a
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little more busy and it seems like every meeting has an
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interesting question and it's wonderful that we have
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citizens willing to serve. And we've had lean years
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where we couldn't get a quorum and this has been a very
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good Board to work with.
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Folks are reinvesting in their businesses and
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in their residential properties and this Board is
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critical to that. So look forward to one more year of
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working with you.
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MR. BARTLETT: Great.
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8. ADJOURNMENT
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MR. BARTLETT: So at this point I will call to
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adjourn the meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals for
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Thursday, November 18, 2021.
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MR. EPPLER: Second your motion.
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MS. ROUZI: You want a roll call?
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MR. BARTLETT: Sure. Let's do it.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Okay.
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Mr. Bartlett.
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MR. BARTLETT: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Kien.
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MR. KIEN: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Misleh.
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MR. MISLEH: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Mr. Eppler.
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MR. EPPLER: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Ms. Ward.
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MS. WARD: Yes.
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RECORDING SECRETARY: Thank you. Have a good
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night, everyone.
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1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Petitions
4. Old Business
a. Special Use Permit application U1623-21 by Lisa Wills, applicant, to allow a daycare use
otherwise not permitted by right, on premises known as 128 South Spring Street, RPC
#52-203-037 of the Falls Church Real Property Records, zoned R-1A (Low Density
Residential)
5. New Business
a. Variance application V1628-21 by Donald Brobst, applicant and owner, for a variance to
Section 48-1102(j)(1), to allow a generator in front yard along the Greenwich Street
frontage on premises known as 601 N West Street, RPC #51-209-016 of the Falls Church
Real Property Records, zoned R-1B, Medium Density Residential
b. (Withdrawn) Variance application V1629-21 by Insight Property Group LLC, applicant
and owner, for variances to Section 48-933 to allow 1) compact spaces and 2) placement
of columns less than three (3) feet from the drive aisle within a parking garage, for the
purpose of constructing a parking garage and mixed-use building on premises known as
100 N. Washington Street, 127 E. Broad Street, 131 E. Broad Street and Park Place
Parcel (RPC Numbers 53-104-051, 53-104-036, 53-104-050 and 53-104-015 of the Falls
Church Real Property Records), zoned B-2, Central Business
6. Approval of Minutes
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To request a reasonable accommodation for any type of disability, call 703-248-5015 TTY711.
a. Approval of the September 16, 2021 Meeting Minutes
7. Other Business
8. Adjournment
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Akida Rouzi, arouzi@fallschurchva.gov
John Boyle, jboyle@fallschurchva.gov
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