Environmental Sustainability Council
Regular MeetingFalls Church, VA · July 18, 2013
Minutes
Falls Church Environmental Services Council
Thursday July 18, 2013 - 7:30 - 9:30 pm
Dogwood Room, G Corridor
DRAFT
Minutes - Prepared by Suzanne Updike
1. Call to Order
Members present: Suzanne Updike, Sarah Bayldon, Peter Oppenheimer, Bill
Schellstede and Tim Stevens (Chair)
City Staff present: Allison Lohrenz, Jason Widstrom, Paul Stoddard
2. Public Comments - none
3. New Business –Two presentations
David Smith, Technical Director of the Interlocking Concrete Pavement Institute
presented information on the increasing use of pervious pavers for storm water
management. Pavers are suitable for locations with local traffic volume. Pavers rest on
three layers of bedding rock, with or without an impervious liner and underdrain.
Locations with favorable conditions (e.g., pervious soil) can sometimes avoid separate
SW pipes. In other cases, the paving system only detains a portion of the runoff. He said
bedding layer has a 35-40% storage capacity. He cited a range of percentages for
possible reductions of runoff volume (25-99%) TN (30-60%), TP (23-50%), TSS (60-
80%), and metals (12-70%). He expressed support for city to provide maximum credit
possible in storm water utility fee program to promote the use of pervious pavers.
Brief ESC discussion with city engineer, Jason Widstrom following presentation included
issues related to the size and application of potential utility fee credits, limitation to use of
wider use pervious pavers in FC including cost, slope, underlying soil, maintenance.
Peter Stoddard, City Transportation Planner, provided an update on planning efforts
related to walking, biking and transit.
Walking – The common distance sited for the average walking commute is under half a
mile. Mentioned “walk appeal” – people will walk longer distances when surrounding
areas are pleasant. http://www.originalgreen.org/blog/walk-appeal.html
Discussed shared parking issue. Last study was done in late 90’s. Need
funding/manpower to update parking numbers. No formal agreements exist between
commercial properties to share parking at this time.
Biking – He presented ideas for improving specific locations on the W&OD trail,
including trail entrances to FCC. City is developing plans to improve the western
entrance first (site of existing storage shed). He is seeking funding from EDA to fund
wayfinding signs to direct cyclists to various city locations. Would like sherrow
markings on streets to alert drivers to share road, no funding exists for this right now.
Discussion of possible ways to allow public to request bike racks. Discussion WABA’s
work supporting the DC bike rack program, Capital Bike Share.
Transit – 1,400 trips start in FCC daily. There are 40 stops, only five with shelters.
Looking at possibly consolidating bus stops, possible new/shifted shelter locations.
4. Old business
ESC has a chance to comment on the South Washington Street small area plan. We will
discuss at September meeting, as comments are due the end of September.
Storm water. Jason Widstorm, City Engineer, discussed progress of the City’s draft
storm water ordinance. It contains new language and incorporates existing code language
-- both Chesapeake Bay regulations (pulled from Zoning) and erosion and sediment
control. The city council’s second reading of the new ordinance should happen in
October.
Jason is seeking a member of the ESC to serve on a citizen panel as the City develops its
policy regarding BMP credits as part of the planned storm water utility.
6. Discussion Items
Annual letter to City Council recommending legislation for the 2014 State General
Assembly. ESC members expressed support for the draft letter.
Approval of Minutes (May 2013) -- approved.
7. Next meeting: September (Minutes: Adriance)
8. Adjournment - at 9:00
Agenda
Environmental Services Council Agenda
Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:30 - 9:30 pm Dogwood Room, G Corridor
1. Call to Order
2. Public Comments
3. Approval of Minutes (June 2013)
4. New Business (Presentations)
David Smith- Technical Director
o Interlocking Concrete Pavement Institute
Paul Stoddard- Planner
o Transportation policy update
5. Old Business
6. Discussion items
Draft descriptions for legislative letter
7. Informational Items
Misc.
8. Other Business
9. Set Next Meeting
September 19, 2013
10. Adjournment
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Falls Church Environmental Services Council
Thursday July 18, 2013 - 7:30 - 9:30 pm
Dogwood Room, G Corridor
DRAFT
Minutes - Prepared by Suzanne Updike
1. Call to Order
Members present: Suzanne Updike, Sarah Bayldon, Peter Oppenheimer, Bill
Schellstede and Tim Stevens (Chair)
City Staff present: Allison Lohrenz, Jason Widstrom, Paul Stoddard
2. Public Comments - none
3. New Business –Two presentations
• David Smith, Technical Director of the Interlocking Concrete Pavement Institute
presented information on the increasing use of pervious pavers for storm water
management. Pavers are suitable for locations with local traffic volume. Pavers rest on
three layers of bedding rock, with or without an impervious liner and underdrain.
Locations with favorable conditions (e.g., pervious soil) can sometimes avoid separate
SW pipes. In other cases, the paving system only detains a portion of the runoff. He said
bedding layer has a 35-40% storage capacity. He cited a range of percentages for
possible reductions of runoff volume (25-99%) TN (30-60%), TP (23-50%), TSS (60-
80%), and metals (12-70%). He expressed support for city to provide maximum credit
possible in storm water utility fee program to promote the use of pervious pavers.
Brief ESC discussion with city engineer, Jason Widstrom following presentation included
issues related to the size and application of potential utility fee credits, limitation to use of
wider use pervious pavers in FC including cost, slope, underlying soil, maintenance.
• Peter Stoddard, City Transportation Planner, provided an update on planning efforts
related to walking, biking and transit.
Walking – The common distance sited for the average walking commute is under half a
mile. Mentioned “walk appeal” – people will walk longer distances when surrounding
areas are pleasant. http://www.originalgreen.org/blog/walk-appeal.html
Discussed shared parking issue. Last study was done in late 90’s. Need
funding/manpower to update parking numbers. No formal agreements exist between
commercial properties to share parking at this time.
Biking – He presented ideas for improving specific locations on the W&OD trail,
including trail entrances to FCC. City is developing plans to improve the western
entrance first (site of existing storage shed). He is seeking funding from EDA to fund
wayfinding signs to direct cyclists to various city locations. Would like sherrow
markings on streets to alert drivers to share road, no funding exists for this right now.
Discussion of possible ways to allow public to request bike racks. Discussion WABA’s
work supporting the DC bike rack program, Capital Bike Share.
Transit – 1,400 trips start in FCC daily. There are 40 stops, only five with shelters.
Looking at possibly consolidating bus stops, possible new/shifted shelter locations.
4. Old business
• ESC has a chance to comment on the South Washington Street small area plan. We will
discuss at September meeting, as comments are due the end of September.
• Storm water. Jason Widstorm, City Engineer, discussed progress of the City’s draft
storm water ordinance. It contains new language and incorporates existing code language
-- both Chesapeake Bay regulations (pulled from Zoning) and erosion and sediment
control. The city council’s second reading of the new ordinance should happen in
October.
• Jason is seeking a member of the ESC to serve on a citizen panel as the City develops its
policy regarding BMP credits as part of the planned storm water utility.
6. Discussion Items
• Annual letter to City Council recommending legislation for the 2014 State General
Assembly. ESC members expressed support for the draft letter.
• Approval of Minutes (May 2013) -- approved.
7. Next meeting: September (Minutes: Adriance)
8. Adjournment - at 9:00
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