Public Cultural & Entertainment Facilities Cooperative District
Regular MeetingFoley, AL · November 2, 2015
Minutes
The City of Foley Public
City of Foley, AL Cultural & Entertainment
Facilities Cooperative
District
407 East Laurel Avenue
Meeting Minutes - Final Foley, AL 36535
Public Cultural & Entertainment Facilities Cooperative District
Monday, November 2, 2015 3:05 PM Conference Room
Call to Order
Acting Chairman Floyd Davis called the meeting to order at 3:55 p.m.
Roll Call
All members were present with the exception of Mr. Newton who had a
business conflict. Mr. Welytok is the new member who took Mr. Duane
Dickson's place.
Others present: Vickey Southern, Jeff Rouzie, Sue Steigerwald, Miranda Bell,
Rusty Russell, Don Staley, Bill Swanson, Heyward C. Hosch, Reid Cavnar, and
Mike Thompson.
Present: 4 - Floyd A. Davis,Charles Ebert III,J Koniar and Mark Welytok
Absent: 1 - Keith Newton
Present: 4 - Floyd A. Davis,Charles Ebert III,J Koniar and Mark Welytok
Absent: 1 - Keith Newton
Approval of the Minutes
15-0660 10-05-2015 Minutes
Attachments: 10-05-2015 PCEFCD MINUTES.pdf
The October 5, 2015 Minutes were approved on motion by Mr. Koniar and
seconded by Mr. Ebert. The vote passed unanimously.
New Business
15-0662 Election of Officers
Mr. Ebert made a motion to appoint Mr. Davis as Chairman, Mr. Newton as
Vice-Chairman and himself as Secretary/Treasurer. Mr. Koniar seconded the
motion and the vote passed unanimously.
Enactment No: 15-0013-PCEFCD
15-0673 Authorizing Certain Board Members to Sign on the Checking Account
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at Centennial Bank
Mr. Koniar made a motion to authorize Mr. Davis as Chair, Mr. Newton as
Vice-Chair, Mr. Ebert as Secretary/Treasurer, and add Mr. Welytok. Mr. Ebert
seconded the motion and the vote passed unanimously.
Enactment No: 15-0014-PCEFCD
15-0663 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING (1) THE ISSUANCE AND SALE
OF CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES REVENUE
BONDS, SERIES 2015, AND (2) THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY
OF FINANCING DOCUMENTS
Attachments: Foley Cultural 2015. Minutes of Cooperative District (03401916)
11-02-2015.pdf
Mr. Hosch reported this will need to be validated so that the Board and the City
will have the proper protections of the law. The resolution is one that the
Board has seen before that approves the financing for the cultural and
entertainment center and the appropriate documents. It authorizes the
Chairman to execute the documents and take the necessary actions. It also
approves the validation. The main reason to validate is to ensure Amendment
772 does apply to the City's funding agreement so that it will be exempt from
the debt limit. Amendment 750 does not authorize the incurrence of debt by
the City so it does not provide for a debt limit exemption. The documents
authorize the bonds in the traditional way providing the City will make the
payments at times to provide the debt service and in the proper amounts. The
officers of the District and the City are completely exempt from any
responsibility for this action.
Mr. Ebert asked the amount of the bonds. Mr. Thompson reported it would be
$16.1 but validating a maximum of $17 million. Mr. Hosch reported the notice
stated between $16 and $17 million. Mr. Ebert asked about the New Market Tax
Credits. Mr. Thompson reported this is off the table. Mr. Ebert asked if there
was a viable option for new market tax credits next year. Mr. Thompson
reported new market tax credits will be distributed to CDE's in the April/May
time frame and we could apply for those if the bond was structured as a
taxable bond; however, if we move forward with this tax exempt bond, which
will save the City money, then the new market tax credits will be off the table.
Mr. Ebert reported he was very uncomfortable with the issuance of bonds
since the new market tax credits were looked at being used and now they are
not. Mr. Koniar reported the new market tax credits were not included in the
feasibility study and the new market tax credit was a bonus. Mr. Thompson
reported at the time the two studies (the first was done in 2011) were done the
new market tax credit reduction in cost was part of our study. The original
study of 2011 did not include it. The tax credit deal that we were looking at to
close this year was not a full tax credit. It was to provide $1.2 million benefit to
the City; however, by doing it as a taxable bond there is additional costs to the
bond being taxable versus tax exempt that comes up to roughly $700,000. The
net effect was not as great as it initially viewed to be. The sales tax question
was raised by Sue Steigerwald last week.
Mr. Welytok asked if the new market tax credit was to sell to Capital One. Mr.
Thompson reported that deal is gone away. Mr. Koniar reported that was some
leftovers from a deal that fell threw but they had so much trouble trying to get
the MOU done it was just too late to close in a timely manner, which was by the
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end of December 2015. The CDE, Community Development Entity, on Friday
added some additional requirements that we could not accomplish by the end
of December and that is why the deal fell apart. Mr. Rouzie reported that Mr.
Hattier would actively continue to market the project for new market tax credits
but thinks that it needs to be looked at as a tax exempt basis as well saving on
materials on sales tax. The new market tax credits are nice as they offset some
costs but they are not an easy vehicle to try to manage and it puts a lot of
strain and stress on alot of people at the City of Foley (mainly the Finance
Division). If we could get the full allocation it would be beneficial.
Mr. Ebert asked if they do a tax exempt bond how it would relate with a new
market tax credit. Mr. Thompson reported you cannot do a new market tax
credit without it being a taxable bond. The decision will be made when you
decide if you go with a taxable or tax-exempt bond. If the City gets a full
allocation of tax credits, the full $16 million, then it would save the City
approximately $3 million. If you save $3 million then it is worth giving up
$600,000 of sales tax abatements and $750,000 worth of tax exempt savings for
a tax exempt bond. However, if you don't get a full allocation but only half or
quarter allocation like we were working on it's really a break even proposition.
So unless you are comfortable with getting a full allocation it makes sense to
go tax-exempt with this deal. In talking with Steven Hattier and
Muni-Strategies (CDE) who offered this partial portion of tax credits they
indicated the event center was not a real strong contender. The only reason
we got any portion at all was because they had fallen out and were searching
for a home to close quickly. It might be a pretty tough sell in May when we are
competing against higher quality projects. Mr. Hosch reported that he could
put alternative language in the documents for the validation. The validation
requires him to set the highest interest rate, which he does at 15%. This is
subject to the truth of what happens at the meeting after validation. If you say
we want the resolution to provide this and the alternative being taxable or
tax-exempt he can do that as well. If they want the validation to close this year
he needs to get the documents to the court by tomorrow or the next day. He
has set them up as taxable but can use taxable or tax-exempt in the
documents.
Mr. Koniar made a motion to move forward with the bonds to finance the
cultural and events center and Mr. Welytok seconded the motion. Mr. Ebert
voted nay and the vote passed by a majority vote.
Aye: 3- Chairman Davis,Member Koniar and Member Welytok
Nay: 1- Secretary/Treasurer Ebert III
Aye: 3- Chairman Davis,Member Koniar and Member Welytok
Nay: 1- Secretary/Treasurer Ebert III
Enactment No: 15-0015-PCEFCD
15-0661 Consider Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Foley;
PCEFCD; PASFCD; Foley Hotel One, LLC; Foley Hotel Two, LLC; BC
Foley, LLC; and Creek Indian Enterprises Development Authority
(CIEDA)
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Attachments: BC FOLEY MOU - New Page 7 Inserted old page 7 deleted
10-27-2015.pdf
Mr. Thompson explained that the two cooperative districts have certain
activities that they have to perform. For example, CIEDA has to build a hotel.
The PCEFCD has to build the event center. Previously when ya'll had a
meeting with the PASFCD, their group has agreed to complete the fields that
are under construction. So each party has a certain responsiblity.
A motion was made by Member Koniar, seconded by Member Welytok, that this
Resolution be adopted as previously explained. The motion carried by the
following vote:
Aye: 3- Chairman Davis,Member Koniar and Member Welytok
Nay: 1- Secretary/Treasurer Ebert III
Aye: 3- Chairman Davis,Member Koniar and Member Welytok
Nay: 1- Secretary/Treasurer Ebert III
Enactment No: 15-0016-PCEFCD
15-0675 Consider hiring an architect for the Cultural & Entertainment Center
Attachments: SITE PLANS.pdf
GOODWYN MILLS CAYWOOD PROPOSAL.pdf
GOODWYN MILLS & CAWOOD AIA CONTRACT.pdf
Appears both contracts for Architect and HPM overlap. Need further
review/explanations.
Mr. Rouzie reported they gave Infinity Architecture the opportunity to look at
the design for the multi-use indoor facility and they were purchased by
Goodwyn Mills and Cawood. Mr. Cowart is still the architect that will be
working with Goodwyn Mills and Cawood. Mr. Welytok asked if they were the
only firm they requested to look at the project. Mr. Rouzie reported they
looked at others but the reason they went with them is because Mr. Cowart
was a specialist in the design of indoor sports facilities and did Auburn's
facilities, Clemson's facilities as well as some other major facilities. He already
had a prototype based on the square footage the City was looking at that
reduced the cost of the overall building. They already have some schematics
and layouts. This will be modified somewhat on the ceiling heights for volley
ball and to make sure that it meets NCA standards but basically it is the same
structure they used in the past. They actually have three prototypes. They
have a 50, 80 and 100 so the majority of what they have done they plug it into
CAD. Mr. Ebert asked if this firm was capable of doing the inspections and
oversight while the job is being done. Mr. Rouzie reported that needs to be
done by a third party and it would be his opinion to have HPM oversee it. Mr.
Thompson reported Goodwyn Mills and Cawood would be the engineer of
record and they would verify the design is built to their specs. Mr. Welytok
asked why we have a construction management firm proposal and an architect
proposal. It seems as though they are doing the same job. Mr. Ebert asked if
Goodwyn Mills and Cawood's proposal includes construction review and
oversight or if they exempted it from their proposal. Mr. Welytok reported that
on page 15 of their proposal 25% of the proposal fee was for both construction
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review and oversight and felt there were some items that overlapped.
Mr. Thompson made a clarification that HPM was contracted because at the
point of the new market tax credit the CDE required a detailed cost estimate for
the event center project. HPM had to be contracted because of that
requirement but since the new market tax credit deal went away we are not
under a quick timeline to get them under contract as they once were with the
new market tax credit deal. Mr. Rouzie reported HPM is the owner's (City's)
representative on the project so they are watching out for our interests.
A motion was made by Secretary/Treasurer Charles Ebert, III, seconded by
Member Mark Welytok, that this Resolution be carried over until the item has
been vetted. The motion carried by an unanimous vote.
Enactment No: 15-0017-PCEFCD
15-0677 Consider approving HPM Admendment #5 relating to Cultural &
Entertainment Center
Attachments: HPM Contract Amendment #5 11-02-2015 3502_001.pdf
It appears both contracts (architect and HPM) overlap. Carried over for further
review/explanation.
A motion was made by Member J Koniar, seconded by Secretary/Treasurer
Charles Ebert, III, that this Resolution be carried over until the item has been
vetted. The motion carried by an unanimous vote.
Enactment No: 15-0018-PCEFCD
Visitor Comments
There were no comments to report.
Adjourn
A motion was made by Secretary/Treasurer Charles Ebert, III, seconded by
Member J Koniar, that this meeting be adjourned. The motion carried by an
unanimous vote and adjourned at 4:19 p.m.
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Agenda
The City of Foley Public
City of Foley, AL Cultural & Entertainment
Facilities Cooperative
District
407 East Laurel Avenue
Meeting Agenda - Final Foley, AL 36535
Public Cultural & Entertainment Facilities Cooperative District
Monday, November 2, 2015 3:05 PM Conference Room
Call to Order
Roll Call
Approval of the Minutes
15-0660 10-05-2015 Minutes
Attachments: 10-05-2015 PCEFCD MINUTES.pdf
New Busiiness
New Business
15-0662 Election of Officers
15-0673 Authorizing Certain Board Members to Sign on the Checking Account at
Centennial Bank
15-0663 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING (1) THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF
CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES REVENUE
BONDS, SERIES 2015, AND (2) THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY
OF FINANCING DOCUMENTS
Attachments: Foley Cultural 2015. Minutes of Cooperative District (03401916) 11-02-2015.pdf
15-0661 Consider Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Foley;
PCEFCD; PASFCD; Foley Hotel One, LLC; Foley Hotel Two, LLC; BC
Foley, LLC; and Creek Indian Enterprises Development Authority
(CIEDA)
Attachments: BC FOLEY MOU - New Page 7 Inserted old page 7 deleted 10-27-2015.pdf
15-0675 Consider hiring an architect for the Cultural & Entertainment Center
Attachments: SITE PLANS.pdf
GOODWYN MILLS CAYWOOD PROPOSAL.pdf
GOODWYN MILLS & CAWOOD AIA CONTRACT.pdf
15-0677 Consider approving HPM Admendment #5 relating to Cultural &
Entertainment Center
Attachments: HPM Contract Amendment #5 11-02-2015 3502_001.pdf
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Visitor Comments
Adjourn
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