Municipal Affordable Housing Trust
Regular MeetingFranklin, MA · October 10, 2023
Minutes
Municipal Affordable Housing Trust
October 10, 2023
Meeting Minutes
Meeting called to order, members present: Maxine Kinhart, Susan Younis, Amy
Frigulietti, Kimberly Mu-Chow, Jaya Vijayaraghavan, Jamie Hellen, Chris V.
Member absent: Chris Feeley
Also present: Bryan Taberner
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes:
August 15, 2023 – need more information on the request for funds for a development
brought by Chris Feeley. No Vote taken.
2. Affordable Housing Update – Maxine is in talks with the daughter of the owner of 144
Grey Wolf Drive. She has indicated that she is ready to sell. The owner is deceased. The
condo has been vacant for 2 – 3 years.
3. Update: Community Intervention Team – Susan spoke with Danielle and had a
conversation of what can be done by the trust, what are the conversation points, what
are the talking points, what are the take away points and so forth. We kind of backed off
spearheading something like that as we understand that we cannot fund anything, but
we definitely want to be part of the conversation and to have a seat at that table and be
part of those conversations. Believe that there has been one meeting already.
Kim Mu-Chow stated that she has been member of that group for two years. It was
something that Maggie Gunderson started. She thinks Danielle’s vision is to change it
from that. She gave a lot of information to the group. The group of us has been helping
the homeless. Danielle talked about its time to do fuel assistance, stuff like that. She
thinks Danielle’s vision is to turn it into something else. We did have Danielle’s
component as part of it, but we also did other things and I think she wants to make it
more focused. I don’t think the group has met since Maggie left and that has been a
while.
Chris V. is pleased to hear about this group and affordable housing. We, as the Housing
Trust, have a longer term approach to affordable housing and housing solutions. There
is an immediate need and there are a bunch of groups that are addressing that
immediate need. Our situation is a little different than what those folks are addressing,
but we thought that there was some value in getting together. Kimberly, I am very
pleased you are a part of that. Is that through the Church? Yes, the New England Chapel
and also for the Milford Regional Medical Center. I’m on the sub-committee for
homelessness as part of their community benefits advisory group.
Amy added that Danielle did reach out to her last week about this team. A member of
the fire department is also coordinating with her and they are interested in meeting in
the next few weeks to kind of bring some internal stakeholders together first and then
broadening it out again just to get everyone up to speed. Jaime had asked her to bring
together some of our social service organizations along with some of our departments
and do a round table. It sounds like this is already being done but she doesn’t know
much about it. She wants to get more information from her to understand what the role
of the team is.
Jamie added that an intervention team cannot be made up of just the Senior Center, the
police department, the school district, or individual entities. A community is a
community, it's everybody. We’re trying to bring all those folks together. We already
have in a lot of ways with the migrant related issue, so we’re probably going to have an
extension of that. There is no housing available in Massachusetts anymore and there is
no emergency shelter space. I think everybody is familiar with the migrant issue. There
is no room, literally, no housing and that’s why the hotels are being filled at a pretty
high rate. State wide occupancy of hotel rooms is about 4-5 percent of hotel rooms. It is
thousands and thousands and thousands of rooms. This is an issue that is going to go on
for a while. It’s clear that our local governments are going to be expected to deliver a
certain set of something. The problem is going to get worse before it gets better. We
will include the Trust in that broader effort. The Community Intervention Team was not
the whole community; it was just a few people who were getting together that cared
about social services. The problems that we are facing today are well beyond what that
initial model tried to be and it’s too much for Danielle and the staff to handle somehow
on their own. We have two new mental health clinician case workers at the police
department. We’ve got a lot of things going on. Hopefully, in the next several months,
we’ll be able to roll out a larger profile and we will certainly let the trust know as things
move on.
Chris wanted to know what the current situation today is. Do we have folks in the hotels
in town? Jamie added we have one hotel, the Best Western. It’s about half full; about
150-160 people and about 40 school aged children. You have the normal routine
integration issues that you have school bus logistics, education needs logistics, state
reimbursement logistics other than those things the situation seems to be relatively
stable so far. We expect the second half of the hotel to be filled up later this year, this
month, or the fall. As Secretary Augustus and the Governor have clearly stated, there is
just no space. How that all gets dealt with is being dealt with at the state level. What
happens from here on out remains to be seen.
Question of where are they coming from and is this a long term situation? Many have
been coming from Haiti. Some of them have been here for quite some time. They’ve
been in New York or other states or other parts of Massachusetts. Some are from
Venezuela. We have had some from Massachusetts that are in need of housing
assistance or have been in other areas of the Commonwealth and are moving around
because they are part of the shelter system. The state has partnered with the hotel for a
year lease that began in July 1. So we know that it’s at least a year. Don’t know where
people are going to go. This is a question for the Governor. Once these people are on
their own and working and able to pay rent, where are they going to go because there is
such a shortage of housing for people.
Jamie added it’s a fragmented system between the federal government, the state level,
and the local level. At a manager’s conference last week in Austin, I got to go to a
session with the managers of El Paso TX, Brownsville TX, and a couple of cities in
California that deal with this every day. They said the most important thing to do is get a
migrant family connected to another family of the same ethnicity or the same country
of origin. That‘s the way to get people up on their feet quicker and gets them more
comfortable and acclimated to a community. It’s proven time and time again, if we
want to integrate individuals into society and paying taxes, getting jobs etc., we need to
find where their family, friends or folks from their country of origin are to be able to link
them up with grocery stores, and transit services. All these things are a piece of the
equation. There is a world of global unrest happening. People are moving and this is
going to continue for a while. State government and federal leaders need to figure out
a system where we can move people around easier and better and expedite
applications, whatever it is. New York City is busing people out of New York City to other
parts of New York. We’re probably going to see that happen at some point. It is going to
be a long term thing.
Chris V. wanted to know about meeting in person. Can we get together without it being
a meeting? Would it be an open meeting law? Jamie said yes you can, you just can’t
deliberate or take votes. You can post a meeting just to be safe. Chris asked if we
would have to offer zoom. Jamie said there is no requirement to offer zoom. He has
never met Susan, Kim, and Jaya. He would like to have an in-person at some point.
Jamie stated that we have the training room, room 205, or council chambers. Do we
have to have zoom meeting. There’s no requirement to offer Zoom.
Jaya offered to do things for the committee. She could do it offline and provide
information at the next meeting. Chris said that there is nothing at this point. Susan
kind of reported back about what she has learned about the community intervention
team. In the past we have had different properties that have come to market. We may
be asking you at some point.
Chris stated that it was good to see Bryan at the Harvest Fest. It’s always a good event
and thanked Bryan for his services. Bryan stated that a rain date causes stress, but this
year we had a lot of high school and Dean Collage volunteers.
Motion by Susan to Adjourn, Second by Jaime. Roll Call: Maxine-Yes, Susan-Yes, Kim-
Yes, Jaya-Yes, Jaime-Yes, Amy-Yes, Chris V.-Yes. Vote: 7-0-1
Submitted by Maxine Kinhart
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Municipal Affordable Housing Trust
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October 10, 2023
10:00 AM
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1. Approval of Meeting Minutes – August 15, 2023
2. Affordable Housing Update - Maxine
3. Update: Community Intervention Team - Susan
4. Future Agenda Items
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TOWN OF FRANKLIN
MUNICIPAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST
August 15, 2023
Meeting Minutes
Meeting called to order, members present: Chris Vericker, Susan Younis, Maxine Kinhart, Chris
Feeley, Jamie Hellen
Guests: Bryan Taberner
1. Swearing in of the members. Deputy Town Clerk Dyan Fitzgerald swore in the members of
the Trust. Members present and sworn in for the one year term of office were Susan Younis,
Maxine Kinhart, and Chris Vericker. Chris Feeley was sworn in prior to this meeting.
2. Election of Officers. Motion to approve the appointment of Chris Vericker as Chairman. Roll
Call vote: Susan Younis: Yes, Maxine Kinhart: Yes, Chris Feeley: Yes, Chris Vericker: Yes.
Vote: 5-0-0. Motion to approve the appointment of Susan Younis as Vice Chairman. Roll Call
Vote: Maxine Kinhart: Yes, Chris Feeley: Yes, Chris Vericker: Yes, Susan Younis: Yes. Vote:
5-0-0. Motion to approve the appointment of Maxine Kinhart as Clerk. Roll Call vote: Chris
Feeley: Yes, Susan Younis: Yes, Chris Vericker: Yes, Maxine Kinhart: Yes. Vote 5-0-0.
3. Approval of Minutes – August 15, 2023 – Motion by Susan to Approve the minutes, Second
by Maxine. Roll Call Vote: Maxine: Yes, Susan: Yes, Chris F.: Yes, Chris V: Yes, Jamie
Hellen: Yes. Vote: 5-0-0
4. Affordable Housing Update - Maxine
1. 67 Palomino Drive – Has closed and the new owner has moved in.
2. 90 Palomino Drive is scheduled to close on August 30.
3. 144 Grey Wolf Drive. Spoke with the owner’s daughter via email. She was interested in
what the condo would sell for. As of August 2, the value would be $250,824. This figure is
subject to change as the State is the entity that sets the sales price but it should be the same as
it is as a result of a calculation found in the Deed Rider. She also mentioned that she is
dealing with the state over a MassHealth Lien on the property and she is waiting for them to
contact her. Maxine wanted to update the members on something that was mentioned at the
last meeting. You cannot transfer the property via a will. The property will be sold via a
process established in the Deed Rider. Once sold, the proceeds will go to the heirs. The
property could be transferred to an heir but they would have to qualify under all the terms of
the Deed Rider. I don’t believe the daughter is considering this option.
5. Franklin Ridge Senior Housing – Bryan Taberner, Director Department of Planning &
Community Development
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Franklin Ridge is the senior housing project planned for Veteran’s Memorial Way behind
Eaton Place, the current senior housing. Bryan reported that the Department of Public Works
funded preliminary site studies while keeping grant money to be used for other purposes. The
Franklin Public School department donated an easement for the pump house to be located on
school property. Funding from the town includes a local match to the FY 21 HC Grant, a
commitment from the Trust for project engineering/project design for $30,000 and DPW
engineering consulting of $10,000, a FY 23 DHCD-ARPA funding contract with the state of
$280,000 and a FY 2023 MassWorks Grant of $3,200,000, and finally a commitment of
$500,000 from the Housing Trust and $320,000 from the CPA for a total current funding
amount of $4,556,235. Additionally, the Town has promised a 7.5 acre land donation for the
location and staff assistance from Administration, DPW, Engineering, and DPCD. Previously
unknown wetlands were discovered as a result of a site study. These wetlands will reduce the
property previously identified as buildable lots. The Town has spent funds in direct spending
and in-kind sums that will be helpful when seeking matching funds from the state. In addition
to the senior housing, an additional use for the property will include trails and existing
footpaths that are currently used as a shortcut to the high school and middle school by the Daily
Drive neighborhood students.
6. General Business: Chris Feeley noted that he had been approached by a local developer asking
for support from the Housing Trust for a small, non-affordable senior development. The sense
of the members was that this was not something the members would support.
MOTION by Maxine to Adjourn, SECOND by Susan Roll Call Vote: Maxine: Yes, Susan: Yes,
Chris F.: Yes, Chris V.: Yes, Jamie: Yes. Vote: 5-0-0.
Meeting Adjourned at 11:00 AM.
Minutes prepared by: Maxine Kinhart
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