City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · February 22, 2011
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. THOMAS J. TOMZAK, MAYOR
HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, VICE MAYOR
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. BRADFORD C. ELLIS, WARD ONE
HON. GEORGE C. SOLLEY, WARD TWO
HON. FREDERIC N. HOWE, III, WARD THREE
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street HON. BEATRICE R. PAOLUCCI, WARD FOUR
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
February 22, 2011
Architectural Review Board and Economic Development Authority Applicant Interviews
Closed Session on Pending Litigation
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
February 22, 2011, beginning at 5:30p.m. in City Hall Conference Room.
Council Present. Mayor Thomas J. Tomzak, presiding. Vice-Mayor Mary
Katherine Greenlaw. Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Bradford C. Ellis, Frederic N. Howe, III,
Beatrice R. Paolucci and George C. Solley.
Also Present. City Manager Beverly Cameron, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Economic Development Director Karen Hedelt and
Clerk of Council Tonya B. Lacey.
Interviews – Council interviewed the following applicants for possible appointment
to the Architectural Review Board (ARB) and the Economic Development Authority (EDA).
Robert Carter – When asked what role the EDA played in the City’s Comprehensive
Plan, Mr. Carter said he was familiar with the City’s Comprehensive Plan and the EDA’s
Strategic plan and they work well together. He said EDA should be supportive to the Council
and it would be a great opportunity for them to work together. He said in Stafford the board
and the EDA worked well together with the grants. When asked of his opinion on the support
of Libertytown by the EDA and their action and role in the development of the arts, he said the
arts define the City and makes the City different from other cities and counties. He said if the
arts were active and vibrant they would attract people to move and work here. The support of
Libertytown with performance measures is important and if they could meet all the
benchmarks, the City would benefit from it. Mr. Carter said the City needed to do what was
going to work well for the City; such as, incentives he gave an example that if you have 100
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restaurants already, then incentivizing restaurant 101 might not be beneficial. He said he
would like to see incentives for sustainable businesses. He said supporting retail and
restaurants was not his favorite, because they could be here today gone tomorrow. He said in
Stafford they would try to give incentives that were sustainable and would help in the long
term, such as road improvements. When asked what he would do to bring businesses to
Fredericksburg, he said he would first move the post office out of town. The EDA has done
fairly well with a limited budget by keeping Mary Washington Hospital in the City; this was a
bold step and a lot of work went into doing that. He said the City would be alright as long as it
kept the hospital and the University of Mary Washington. When asked how he would
differentiate Central Park and bring more businesses there, he said he would make it more
pedestrian friendly and the traffic patterns easier. He said if you could get more attorneys’
offices and after dark entertainment they would help. Mr. Carter was asked his thoughts on the
Main Street Program and, he said he didn’t know a lot about it, but he said when the City had
the program before it was needed because there were many vacant buildings downtown. It was
his understanding that it would need a lot of buy in from the business owners, but he felt in
order for the program to be successful the property owners needed to the weigh in as well. He
was concerned because he said there was more than one main street within the City. He
thought there were other things that could be done other than a Main Street Program. He was
asked if he supported the concept of the Riverwalk, and he said it has a lot of potential. He
said the concept was great if it was made to be user friendly for events. He suggested having a
series of event to get people used to coming downtown.
Mr. Carter said he has been a City resident all his life and he has enjoyed working with
the Recreation Committee in getting the pool and he felt he had a lot of expertise to bring to the
City.
Jon Van Zandt – Mr. Van Zandt was asked if he thought he would have any conflicts
with the Historic Fredericksburg Foundation, Inc. if he was appointed to ARB and he said he
didn’t see any immediate conflict, but if there were any conflicts he would step down from one
of the boards. He said he wanted to serve on the ARB because he grew up in Fredericksburg
and had a strong background in Fredericksburg and he wanted to see it preserved, he wanted to
see it grow in a managed way and the ARB plays a role in that. When asked his hopeful goals
or vision for the ARB he said he hoped to bring a practical perspective to the board. He said he
worked in the material daily and he believed he could help the ARB and the applicant with
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material and new methods and how to blend them to tie it back to the history. When asked
about his thoughts on expanding the historic district beyond the 40 blocks and whether ARB
would play a role in preserving neighborhoods because of the mcmansion issues, he said he
thought it would need to be studied and carefully looked into. He said there are some areas
that could easily be expanded into, but there were other areas that it would not be so easy. He
suggested looking at areas that were already being preserved instead of just opening the circle
wider, he said it would be worth looking into. As far as the mcmansions he said ARB could
play a role in it, but he thought the City ordinance would be the best way to manage those
issues. He said he would not want to see all of the downtown in the historic district because it
would be difficult to attract businesses because of the expense and that wouldn’t be good for
the growth of the community. When asked if sustainable features could be used in the historic
district with the constraints of the district, he said there are great ways to be energy efficient
and not be wasteful. He said the best way not to be wasteful is to use what you already have
and use the historic materials and fabrics within them and add modern efficiencies to the
structures. He was asked if he perceived any obstacles to the work of the ARB as it functions,
and he said he could only speak to his dealings within the last 4 or 5 years and the board was
very open-minded, but he had heard of times when it was hard to get things approved because
they were not open-minded about new materials. He said he would like to see some sort of
guidelines to guide along preservation path, but he would not like to see rule that would limit
the ARB or the growth of the City.
Chuck Reiche – Mr. Reiche said he wanted to serve on the EDA because he recently
retired from the Marine Corp. He said he served his country for a long time and now he
wanted to serve his community. The EDA interested him as a citizen; he was interested in
where the community was going. He said the City had something special as a small City it has
a large educated community and he wanted to participate. When asked about his thought on
the support of the EDA to the Arts such as Libertytown, he said he felt the EDA should support
the arts. He said in all his favorite cities he has lived in drew him there because they had arts.
They help to develop the area. On incentives he would like to see them used on businesses that
draw significant employment and agriculture to the City. When he was asked about the
direction he would like to see the City go, he said he loved the waterfront. He said the river is
an untapped resource, but he understood the balance between preserving the natural beauty of
it. When asked about the loss of Shopper’s Food in Central Park and whether he thought EDA
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played a role in incentivizing it to bring businesses, he said EDA does play a role and that he
would like to see some sort of evening entertainment there like Dave & Buster’s and places for
adults to go. On the Main Street Program, Mr. Reiche was not familiar with it. When asked if
he had any ideas on how the EDA could help the City maintain an income stream he stated that
defense contractors would be great, but many will not go pass Route 610. If the City had an
office park and could get those contractors to come here it would be great for the City.
Susan Pates – When asked what she thought could be done to make it easier for
applicants going before ARB, she said she would like to know that the applicants project has
been looked at objectively. She would also like to hear the Board say thanks to the applicant
for living in the historic district, because in this market they have a lot of choices. When asked
what her unique qualifications were, she said she was a history major and she taught herself
about architecture because of her profession. She said this is something she likes to do in her
spare time as well. When asked what her goals would be for the ARB, she said she would keep
things as they are to protect and preserve properties. She said in preserving the properties
sometimes other materials could be used, it should not be required to use pure materials all the
time. When asked whether she would like to see the historic district expanded beyond the 40
blocks to preserve properties and whether the ARB should create oversight for neighborhood,
she said she would like to see it expanded. She stated that she would like to see the
Washington Avenue homes included. On the oversight, she said that the neighborhood
associations were much more rigid than the ARB. She said neighborhoods needed to speak up
more about additions, and teardowns and how they make changes to a neighborhood. On the
topic of whether there should be a standard list to go by when approving project in the historic
district or if the interpretation of the Secretary of Interior Standards should be left up to the
ARB to interpret, she said she as a member of ARB you judge what a person is proposing and
it could be sensitive, because sometimes it’s a matter of taste. She said members must be
diplomatic and handle with sensitivity and give the applicants reasons and understanding why a
decision was made. She was asked if she perceived any changes that needed to be made to the
ARB and she said the only comments she had heard was that there needed to be better
communication between the ARB and the applicants. When asked about infill lots, she felt the
mass and scaling needed to be addressed.
Closed Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Paolucci, seconded
by Councilor Devine and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes, Council
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approved a closed meeting under the Virginia Freedom of Information Act, Code Section 2.2-
3711(A)(7) for consultation with legal counsel and briefings by staff members pertaining to
litigation pending in the Fredericksburg Circuit Court: City of Fredericksburg v. Dowling and
Geslois, regarding acquisition of right of way for the Rappahannock Regional Heritage Trail.
Ayes (7). Councilors Tomzak, Greenlaw, Devine, Ellis, Howe, Paolucci and Solley. Nays (0).
None.
Return to Open Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Paolucci,
seconded by the Councilor Devine and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes,
Council approved a return to an open meeting. Ayes (7). Councilors Tomzak, Greenlaw,
Devine, Ellis, Howe, Paolucci and Solley. Nays (0). None.
Resolution 11-13, Approved Certifying Closed Meeting. Upon the motion
of Councilor Paolucci, seconded by Councilor Devine and passed by the following
unanimously recorded votes, Council approved Resolution 10-85 certifying their closed
meeting. Ayes (7). Councilors Tomzak, Greenlaw, Devine, Ellis, Howe, Paolucci and Solley.
Nays (0). None.
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, the meeting was declared officially adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
___Tonya B. Lacey__
Tonya B. Lacey
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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Agenda
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
MEETING NOTICE
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
5:30 p.m.
City Hall, 715 Princess Anne Street
Second Floor, Conference Room 218
CALL TO ORDER
TOPIC
• Interviews for Economic Development Authority and Architectural
Review Board
• Closed Session
o Closed Session Under the Virginia Freedom of Information
Act, VA Code §2.2-3711 (A)(7) for consultation with legal
counsel and briefings by staff members pertaining to litigation
pending in the Fredericksburg Circuit Court: City of
Fredericksburg v. Dowling and Geslois, regarding acquisition
of right of way for the Rappahannock Regional Heritage Trail.
o Resolution 11-__, Approving Certification of Closed Meeting
ADJOURNMENT
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