City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · December 6, 2016
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. BRADFORD C. ELLIS, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
December 6, 2016
Comprehensive Plan and Unified Development Ordinance Amendment
Articles 1 & 2 of the Unified Development Ordinance Amendment
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
December 6, 2016, beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the City Hall Conference Room.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Councilors William
C. Withers, Jr., Kerry P. Devine, Timothy P. Duffy, Charlie L. Frye, Jr. (7:10) and Matthew J.
Kelly.
Council Absent. Councilor Bradford C. Ellis.
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley,
Director of Planning and Community Development Charles Johnston, Zoning Administrator
Michael Craig, Development Administrator Marne Sherman and Clerk of Council Tonya B.
Lacey.
Comprehensive Plan and Unified Development Ordinance Amendment.
Mr. Johnston presented a PowerPoint that discussed: Why the amendments were being
considered, specific measures for revitalization, mass transit, mixed use, 3.0 FAR: UDO
amendments, pros of approving the amendments, cons of approving the amendments and small
area plans. (See Attachment II for more information).
Councilor Duffy asked if the State addressed the proffer legislation and gave more room
what would the Council be allowed to do. Mr. Johnston explained they would have to go
through the same process by sending it to the Planning Commission and then bring it back to the
Council for approval.
Mayor Greenlaw asked if the proposed changes were the best changes for the future of
the development of the City and Mr. Johnston said it was important to have the criteria and the
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City must be responsible when the City have projects come forward. He said it would behoove
the City to put things in order to allow the best proffers for the City.
Vice-Mayor Withers expressed his concern with the 3.0 FAR and the Commercial
Shopping Center (CSC) zoning and the Commercial-Highway (C-H) Zoning. He said the CSC
and the C-H zonings back up to residential neighborhoods and the commercial went from a .5 to
a 3.0. Vice-Mayor Withers said there was a reason for the current FAR and he would like to set
some sort of guidelines where commercial back up to residential.
Councilor Kelly said he asked what the rational was for the 3.0 FAR and no one could
tell him. He said the problem he was having with the 3.0 was that it did not make sense for the
City.
Mr. Baroody said the City could stand down on the matter and he explained that the City
did not make up the 3.0 it was handed down through the General Assembly. He said the only
thing not taking action would jeopardize was any future projects that the City may like.
Mr. Craig explained two technical elements. The first being the areas where they plan
transition of 3.0 FAR may be needed and the other was the list of impacts they check for special
use permits and the list of typical conditions.
Mayor Greenlaw said there were areas where the 3.0 made sense and she said if those
areas were identified to make the flexibility to make them special use projects. Vice-Mayor
asked why the City wouldn’t designate those areas upfront so that developers would know that
the 3.0 FAR would not be allowed everywhere.
Mr. Johnston said if the concern was a buffer than they could incorporate it in the special
use criteria that says a structure should be setback twice there height from any single family
residential district. Vice-Mayor Withers suggested sending this back to the Planning
Commission for more review and discussion.
City Attorney Dooley explained that the 3.0 FAR made no sense because FAR was a
measurement of commercial density and they were talking about residential rezoning. She said
the Council must ask if this was a good guidance statement for the City and whether it was what
they wanted to tell developers. She said one way to accomplish what the Council wanted was to
put in the future land use each of the areas where the City believes the 3.0 was appropriate and
say whatever was appropriate in the vision.
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Councilor Duffy stated that when you look at subdivision such as Altoona and what it
backs up against it is not ideal and he noted that it was not always the FAR, it was the quality of
the development in some sense.
Councilor Kelly added that when looking at the density and the level of by-right
development that was allowed it had caused Route 3 to be a mess. Mr. Johnston explained that
he did not think meeting a special use standard would be easy to do because a project of this
scale and magnitude would not be able to sail through because of the intensity and level of
density.
Mayor Greenlaw said the City needed the flexibility and she also explained that a 3.0
FAR does not always mean a 50,000 square foot building it depended on the size of the lot. She
said using a special use permit puts the burden on the staff before it gets to the Council.
Councilor Devine said the her issue was that the projects that have been coming to
Council have been questionable and there were areas where the City knew they don’t want
certain large projects and she wanted to find a way to let that be known upfront.
Councilor Kelly asked if there was a way to say that the City did not want 3.0 FAR in
certain areas and City Attorney Dooley said the Comprehensive Plan was where the City stated
its vision for the community and developers could use the Comprehensive Plan to see the type of
development the City would like to see. Councilor Kelly stated that no one would look at the
Comprehensive Plan and said he would like to see a single sheet with the regulations on it. City
Attorney Dooley explained that the Comprehensive Plan was a legal document and had legal
status and they were golden when it came to judicial review.
Vice-Mayor Withers said he was concerned enough with the 3.0 FAR that he would like
to see it go back to the Planning Commission for review.
Councilor Duffy said because the 3.0 was in pockets he was fine with moving forward.
He said language could be put in the Comprehensive Plan that the City would take serious any
projects that go up against residential neighborhoods.
Councilor Frye asked if there were any developers coming forward with project and was
that the reason for this topic and Mr. Craig said there were some residential rezonings being
considered.
Mr. Johnston said he was comfortable doing what the City Attorney suggested by talking
about where the 3.0 FAR was possible and putting the text in the Comprehensive Plan before the
January 10 meeting.
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Articles 1 & 2 of the Unified Development Ordinance Amendment.
Mayor Greenlaw noted that with regards to Article 2 over the years the question had been asked
who had final approval over minor subdivisions (50 lots or less). The staff approves 1 to 9 lots
and anything above that go to Planning Commission and City Council. She noted that most
everywhere in the state only major subdivision go to Council and as far as the State was
concerned minor subdivisions could be approved by the administrator. City Attorney Dooley
explained that the General Assembly amended legislation a couple years ago and Council
amended the UDO to conform to that legislation sating that a subdivision with less than 50 lots,
the locality, could not require preliminary plats but it did not say anything about who would
approve the plat. The Code of Virginia believes the Planning Commission or some other agent
of City Council has the plat approving authority for subdivisions, but she added that City Council
had not liked that and wanted to have final approval of subdivisions.
City Attorney Dooley said what they were suggesting was to eliminate Planning
Commission public hearing for subdivisions because there was a 60 day deadline and staff could
not get two public hearing in during that 60 days. Ms. Sherman clarified that the State Code
required action on any subdivision plat whether it be preliminary subdivision plat or final
subdivision plat. She said it was unrealistic to have staff review it and be able to give true
guidance whether it was consistent with the code and hold a public hearing at the Planning
Commission and City Council meeting with in a 60 day period. Ms. Sherman explained that
they were proposing to eliminate the public hearing at the Planning Commission level but still
have them review it and forward it to City Council for public hearing. The second tier, minor
subdivisions (10-50 lots), city council had chosen to either allow the developer to submit a
preliminary plat and go through that process or go straight to the final subdivision plat
application which Council would act on. There was also the administrative subdivisions (9 or
fewer lots) which staff is the only one who reviews and takes action on and it does not require
any type of public notification.
City Attorney Dooley explained that Article 1 was a general provision, such as
applicability and jurisdiction and Article 2 was administration, procedural regulations for all of
the types of land development permits. There were 3 themes that needed addressing and most of
the changes fit into one of the three themes. Ms. Dooley stated that Article 2 was complex
because they were combining subdivision and zoning provisions in one article. She proposed to
bring this back to the Council at the January meeting. (See Attachment III for more information).
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Ms. Sherman informed the Council that they may want to take a look at the 21 day
comment period for certain administrative actions because a couple of developers have found it
egregious. She stated that if Council felt that staff had the ability to review the guidelines and
make appropriate decisions then she suggested doing away with the 21 day comment period.
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time. Mayor Greenlaw declared the work session officially adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
____Tonya B Lacey______
Tonya B. Lacey
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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