City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · October 3, 2017
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. BRADFORD C. ELLIS, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
October 3, 2017
Board and Commissions Interviews
Comprehensive Plan Amendments for the General Land Use Plan and Small Area Plan 3
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
October 3, 2017, beginning at 5:30 p.m. in the City Hall Conference Room.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Vice-Mayor William C.
Withers, Jr., Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Timothy P. Duffy, Bradford C. Ellis, and Matthew J. Kelly.
Council Absent. Charlie L. Frye, Jr. (emergency).
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, Assistant City Manager Mark Whitley,
City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Building & Development Services Director Charles Johnston,
Zoning Administrator Michael Craig, Community Development Planner Susanna Finn and Clerk of
Council Tonya B. Lacey.
Board and Commissions Interviews.
Stacy Horne – Economic Development Authority – said she was a lifelong resident of
Fredericksburg who attended the University of Mary Washington. She said she was invested in the
City and she has seen it go from a great place, to almost dead and now she would like to see more
people out and about in the City. She said she would like to see people who work in DC be able to
work from home and attract higher paying job to the City. She suggested this be done with more
technology jobs. Ms. Horne said she would also like to see Fredericksburg as a destination location
but the City would need more to draw people here.
Berkley Mitchell – Economic Development – said the EDA’s role was to promote
Economic Development. Mr. Mitchell said the EDA could get more involved in business attraction.
One of the ways he suggested attracting new businesses was to redo the incentives program. He was
asked how more money could be generated for the EDA and he said he had not looked into this but
one idea would be to follow Stafford’s lead and sell off surplus property. Mr. Mitchell was also
asked if he thought the City needed Class A office space and he said there was not much of it in the
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City but it was a weak market and he felt like the City had what it needed. He said many places were
going to leasing buildings. Mr. Mitchell was asked if he thought it would be beneficial for one group
to bring Economic Development to the area and Mr. Mitchell said he would hope the
Fredericksburg Regional Alliance would be in agreement to do that but he said there needed to be
someone with the City’s interest at hand. Mr. Mitchell said he lives in the downtown, he has worked
for three localities and he had a desire to serve again.
Thomas Worman – Planning Commission – said he was a developer who had been around
since 1984. Most of his work was in Spotsylvania, Stafford and King George Counties but he has
lived in the City for 13-14 years. He said he has been through the Planning Commission process
many times and he was familiar with plans for both commercial and residential. He said he would
like to see the City do well and because of his experience he thought he would be easier to deal with
and he would be an asset that could explain things to applicants. Mr. Worman said he liked the
direction the City was going in. He said the City should look at more mixed used projects because
there was not much land in the City. Mr. Worman said he would like to see the City stick with
historic buildings in the downtown because they were the charm of the City. He also said the new
small area plans would be easier for the developers.
Thomas Liles – Economic Development Authority – said he has lived in the City about a
year but he had lived in the area much longer. Mr. Liles was asked what he thought the EDA’s role
was and he said it seemed like the EDA put particular interest in grants and bringing more cultural
activities to the City. He said the top three things he would look for when incentivizing businesses
was whether the investment would be reinvested back into the City, if they would be fulfilling a
particular need in the City and whether the project was something that should receive help from the
City. He said the City should not incentivize something that does not contribute to the fabric of the
community. Mr. Liles said his background as an attorney would help the EDA when looking over
proposals. He said the City needed to attract businesses that could sustain families so that they
would not have to commute. He said if the EDA supported/promoted more cultural events it
would make the City more attractive to businesses.
Will Mackintosh – Economic Development Authority – said when the City issued its 2036
Vision statement it captured his attention and made him want to get involved. He said he has lived
in the City since 2010 and he loved it because it had its own unique since of place. Mr. Mackintosh
said he would like to see it remain a small urban place. He said he had seen the economic
development first hand because he was married to a business owner downtown. Mr. Mackintosh is
also a faculty member at the University of Mary Washington and he said he would like to bridge the
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gap between the college and the City. He suggested one way the City could attract more businesses
other than incentives was through media coverage. His vision for growth in the City would be
seeing infill as a good thing in the City, investing energy in parking garages and marketing downtown
more of an employment center. He stated that it made sense for the City and the EDA to work
together on projects like the bank project on George Street. Mr. Mackintosh was asked about things
outside of the downtown and he said he would like to see more apartments in Celebrate Virginia
with different price points.
Quarterly Priorities Update. Community Planner Finn presented a PowerPoint
presentation on the 2015 Comprehensive Plan Amendments. In the PowerPoint she discussed the
Transect Zone, Area 3 Challenges, Area 3 – Transect Zones, T-5C (Area Core), T-5W (Area core
Workplace), Area 3 – Other Elements and Area 3 – Implementation.
Council had a brief discussion on the types of project that should be allowed in Area 3 and
they had discussion on the Idlewild school site. Council was not in agreement with the school being
proposed for the Idlewild property.
Area 6. Director of Planning and Community Services Johnston updated the Council on
the Maker District meeting that was held. He said approximately 30 people attended. The City was
doing something cutting edge because Maker Districts are usually smaller scale than what the City
was looking at. Mr. Johnston said they would like to create a main street type program for the area
to help enable the corridor to come together and create more diversity. The private sector would
evolve this area not the government.
Floodplain Density. Zoning Administrator Craig passed out a map for Council’s review
of the flood plain density limitations before it comes to Council for action.
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this time.
Mayor Greenlaw declared the session officially adjourned at 7:52 p.m.
_ _Tonya B. Lacey ____
Tonya B. Lacey, CMC
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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