City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · September 24, 2019
Minutes
Public Hearing 09/24/19
HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. JASON N. GRAHAM, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
September 24, 2019
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia, held a public hearing on
Tuesday, September 24, 2019, beginning at 7:33 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall.
City Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Vice-Mayor William
C. Withers, Jr., Council members Kerry P. Devine, Dr. Timothy P. Duffy, Charlie L. Frye,
Jr., Jason N. Graham and Matthew J. Kelly.
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, Assistant City Manager Doug Fawcett, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Director of
Community Planning & Building Services Charles Johnston, Senior Planner Michael Craig,
Community Development Planner Susanna Finn, Economic Development Director Bill
Freehling, Business Development Manager Angela Freeman and Clerk of Council Tonya B.
Lacey.
Notice of Public Hearings (D19-397 thru D19-401). The Clerk read the
notice of the public hearings as they appeared in the local newspaper, the purpose being to
solicit citizen input.
Granting an Amended Special Use Permit for an Expansion of the
M&M Auto Parts Recycling Facility with Outdoor Storage (D19-397 thru
D19-401). 10 speakers. Staff gave a PowerPoint presentation and he gave an overview of
the project, he discussed the existing site conditions, details of the property, how they would
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drain the vehicles, number of employees they would hire, estimated revenues, Economic
Analysis and conditions for approval. See D19-398 for more information.
Charlie Payne (D19-399), Hirschler Fleischer, representative for the applicant,
presented a PowerPoint presentation and he did an overview of the project, and discussed
the existing operations, comp plan, current surroundings of the area, and impacts to the
surrounding properties, current surrounding area, environmental and historical impact,
transportation and closing comments. See D19-399 for more information.
Mayor Greenlaw asked for clarification on the number of cars and if there was a
Stormwater plan. Mr. Payne said there would be approximately 3,000 cars and they would
rotate. He explained that there would be Stormwater testing, the same as the requirements
for the current site.
Councilor Devine ask if there would be a fence or a wall screening the vehicles and
whether the location in Stafford County would remain open. Mr. Payne said the property
would have a fence consistent to the current fence and that the lot in Stafford County would
remain open.
Council asked about the crusher, and the fluids in the vehicle and whether they
would be processing additional cars.
Rick Morrow, Owner, explained that the cars would be crushed in the crusher
which will be powered by a diesel engine. He said all fluids would be drained from the cars
and they would be processing more vehicles because it was a larger operation.
Hannah Fallon, 1813 Genther Lane, expressed her concern that Braehead Farms
would lose a significant part of its pumpkin and berry patches which she called a community
treasure. She said the Farm was such an important part of the community and important for
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the school children to go and see where their food comes from. Ms. Fallon said Braehead
was the only place in the City for kids to go and see this.
John J. Schwartz(D19-400), realtor, spoke on behalf of the owner of the 62+/-
acres, he explained that he met with the surrounding businesses to see if there was any
interest in the property, he met with Economic Development to understand the “rules of
engagement” for the development of the property. Mr. Schwartz said he tried to get a data
center to locate there but because of the site limitations, size, shape and maximum potential
results it did not work. He spoke of the many buyer contracts and other prospects that fell
through because of the site building capacity, site shape and wetland results that prevented
the deals from going through. Mr. Schwartz spoke in support of M&M Auto and he said he
believes they will do what is right to make this site work for all parties.
Mitzi Brown, 809 Charlotte Street, said there was some confusion with the
Chesapeake Bay Preservation act and whether it was a Resource Protection Area (RPA) or
Resource Management Area (RMA). She said it appeared to be an RMA when she looked it
up on the map and if according to the Act if any portion of the RMA touches the parcel the
entire parcel is in the RMA. She wanted to be sure that the wetlands are really protected.
Ms. Brown said this needed to be taken seriously.
Holly Clarke, 1504 Winchester Street, noted that a person is entitled to sell a
property but they were not entitled to a special use permit (SUP) and the only way to sell this
property was with an SUP they must not have been selling the property at fair market value.
Paul Vandetto, Kinloch Drive, asked several technical environmental questions and
he asked about the noise from the crushing machine. He was concerned with the runoff
into the park.
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Mr. Craig explained that the site was within a RMA which requires them to submit a
water quality assessment. He said there were no RPA’s being impacted and the wetlands that
have main streams were not being disturbed. Mr. Craig explained that there was one area
that was currently being farmed that was technically a wetland and it could be disturbed with
a permit from the Corps of Engineer.
Jon Gerlach, 809 Charlotte Street, questioned whether the storage racks would be
on both sides of the wetlands and Mr. Craig explained that the racks would be in the areas
that were not forested. He said those areas were not designated RPA because they did not
have perennial streams running through them. Mr. Gerlach reminded the Council that the
entire area was within the RMA.
Martin Miller, 216 Caroline Street, spoke in regards to the Janney Marshall
Building. He said that majority of the neighborhood were in support of the renovation of
the building but there were concerned about the parking. He said there was not enough
room on Frederick and Princess Anne Streets for parking. He asked the Council to weigh
the community’s interests as they weigh the developer’s interests.
Mayor Greenlaw reminded citizen that the public hearing was on the M&M special
use permit request.
Ed Foresman, 224 Braehead Drive, said Braehead Manor and Braehead Farms was
just around the corner and that it was in an industrial area surrounded by industrial use. He
said the current M&M facility was surrounded by a fenced area and this property would be
the same making it more of an industrial area. He said this would be a glorified junk yard
with decaying and rusting cars. Mr. Foresman was concerned they would buy up more
property in the area. He said this property could be better used for something else.
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George Snead (D19-401), 1130 Tyler Street, Owner of the Braehead Farms,
thanked the community for their outpouring support of the farm and the concerns with the
future of the farm. Mr. Snead explained that the family lost the 60 acres in 2010. In 2013, he
said he and his wife opened the farm to the public and they offer pick-your-own fruits
vegetables and flowers amongst other activities to include a rescue farm. He said they have
had over 25,000 paying guests generating $10,000 in admission tax revenue. Mr. Snead
explained that he currently leases back the 60 acres for crops and large events. He said the
large events keep them financially through the year. He said they realized that they would
not be able to lease the land forever. Mr. Snead said after learning M&M would be
purchasing the property they met and toured their facility and what they learned about the
operation eased their minds. He said he believes M&M was the best use of the land and
M&M was willing to work with them. See D19-401 for more information.
Vice-Mayor Withers asked if the road crosses the wetlands area and Mr. Craig said
no wetlands were affected.
Councilor Frye asked if any of the wetlands area could be farmed and Mr. Craig said
he was not sure but the land could legally be disturbed but they would have to go through a
formal process with DEQ.
Mr. Payne added that his applicant had been a good neighbor and he had
rehabilitated the area. He said having a resilient employer in the area helps to offset impacts
for services that the City has to pay. He said this property had been zoned industrial since
the 60’s. Mr. Payne said they contacted the National Park Service and there were no issues.
Mr. Payne said a good portion of the Industrial park was in an RMA as well as other areas in
the City but they were allowed to be developed. Mr. Payne said they would be required to
do onsite well monitoring to be sure nothing was getting into the ground.
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Mayor Greenlaw asked how long the cars were kept and Mr. Payne said the cars were
kept 12-18 months and then crushed and taken away. Mr. Payne also clarified that the land
that Councilor Frye asked whether it was farmable was used as the pasture for the cows.
Councilor Duffy stated that he had toured the M&M facility and it was run with
professionalism and it was well organized but the scale of this project gives him pause.
Councilor Devine said she shared Councilor Duffy’s concerns and she wanted to
know how mosquitos would be managed. She was concerned that the cars would collect
water and cause mosquitos. Mr. Morrow explained that the cars have drain plugs and they
were removed so that water could drain out of the cars. He said they do monitoring samples
once a quarter and the have not had any violations of high counts of any contents.
Mayor Greenlaw noted that if they denied the special use permit it does not save the
use for Braehead Farm and the Council had no way of assuring the use for the farm.
Councilor Kelly said he would like clarity on some of the questions asked and allow
staff time to put some information together on RMA so he moved to postpone action until
the October 8 meeting; motion was seconded by Vice-Mayor Withers and passed by the
following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye,
Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Adjourned. There being no more speakers to come before the Council at this
time, Vice-Mayor Withers declared the hearing officially adjourned at 8:44 p.m.
Mary Katherine Greenlaw
Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Mayor
Tonya B. Lacey
Tonya B. Lacey, Clerk of Council, CMC
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HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
CITY COUNCIL HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. JASON N. GRAHAM, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
September 24, 2019
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia, held a regular session on
Tuesday, September 24, 2019, beginning at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall.
City Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw. Vice-Mayor William C.
Withers, Jr., Council members Kerry P. Devine, Dr. Timothy P. Duffy, Charlie L. Frye, Jr.,
Jason N. Graham and Matthew J. Kelly.
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, Assistant City Manager Doug Fawcett, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Director of
Community Planning & Building Services Charles Johnston, Senior Planner Michael Craig,
Community Development Planner Susanna Finn, Economic Development Director Bill
Freehling, Business Development Manager Angela Freeman and Clerk of Council Tonya B.
Lacey.
Opening Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance. Council was led in prayer by
Councilor Matthew J. Kelly followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Mayor Mary
Katherine Greenlaw.
Officer Recognized. Mayor Greenlaw recognized the presence of Officer
Heather Miller, at this evening’s meeting.
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Public Hearings (D19-397 thru D19-401). The regular session was recessed
in order to conduct scheduled public hearings and immediately reconvened upon their
conclusion.
Citizen Comment. The following speakers participated in the citizen comment
portion of this evening’s meeting.
Rebecca Hanmer (D19-402), 138 Caroline Street, spoke about protecting the green-
space adjacent to the Janney Marshall building and the train station. She said she was part of
the coordinating committee to seek permanent protection of the greenspace as a city park
(Trestle Park). Ms. Hanmer stated that the neighborhood had presented a petition during the
Area 7 Small Area Plan meetings after some modifications she presented the formal petition
to Mayor Greenlaw and the Council as well as the City Manager.
Ms. Hanmer thanked the Planning staff for conditions minimizing disturbance of the
trees and shrubs to the green space and she asked that the Council consider their petition and
officially create Trestle Park.
Council Agenda Presented. The following items were presented to Council
for discussion.
7A. 2020 Census – Councilor Duffy
7B. Murder Free Fredericksburg – Councilor Frye
2020 Census. Councilor Duffy stated that he sat in on the Complete Count
Committee meeting for the 2020 Census for Fredericksburg and he said a Census Official
gave a great presentation. Councilor Duffy said Ms. Finn suggested that he join the Complete
Count Committee and as long as the Council had no issues, he would join the committee. He
also informed the public about how important it was to complete the census because the City
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receives thousands of dollars for each person counted in the City. He assured the public that
the Census Bureau could not share any information that goes to the Bureau.
Councilor Withers noted that the City loses $20,000 for each person not counted over
a ten year period.
Murder Free Fredericksburg. Councilor Frye noted that there was a
homicide in the City and he reminded people that there was a gun giveback program in the
City with no questions asked. He alerted the citizens if they have a weapon in their home that
they would like to get rid of that it could be turned in to the Police Department to help
prevent crimes in the future.
City Manager’s Consent Agenda Accepted for Transmittal as
Recommended (D19-403 thru D19-406). Councilor Kelly moved approval of the
City Manager’s consent agenda; motion was seconded by Councilor Devine and passed by the
following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye,
Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
• Resolution 19-79, Approved, Approving the 2018-2019 Consolidated Annual
Performance and Evaluation Report (D19-403).
• Resolution 19-77, Second Read Approved, Amending the Fiscal Year (FY) 2020
Budget by Creating the Stadium Fund (Fund 0217) (D19-404).
• Transmittal of Board and Commission Minutes.
o Economic Development Authority – August 12, 2019 (D19-405).
o Green Committee – August 13, 2018 (D19-406).
Adoption of Minutes (D19-407 thru D19-408). Councilor Graham moved
approval of the April 16 and April 23, 2019 Work Sessions and the September 10, 2019
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public hearing and regular session minutes; motion was seconded by Councilor Kelly and
passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine,
Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Appointment to the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee –
Joshua Brock (D19-409). Councilor Kelly made a motion to appoint Joshua Brock to
the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee; motion was seconded by Vice-Mayor
Withers and passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers,
Devine, Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Ordinance 19-31, Second Read Approved, Amending the City’s
Zoning Map to Remove Approximately 0.443 Acres of Land Associated
with the Janney-Marshall Building from the Railroad Station Overlay
District (D19-410). After staff presentation Vice-Mayor Withers made a motion to
approve Ordinance 19-31, on second read, amending the City’s Zoning Map to remove
approximately 0.443 acres of land associated with the Janney-Marshall Building from the
Railroad Station Overlay District; motion was seconded by Councilor Devine and passed by
the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye,
Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Ordinance 19-33, Second Read Approved, Granting John A. Janney
an Easement Across City Property Located at the Corner of Caroline and
Frederick Streets for Underground Gas and Electric Service Lines for the
Three Story Mixed Use Building at 401-409 Princess Anne Street (D19-
410). Vice-Mayor Withers made a motion to approve Ordinance 19-33, on second read,
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granting John A. Janney an easement across city property located at the corner of Caroline
and Frederick Streets for underground gas and electric service lines for the three story mixed
use building at 401-409 Princess Anne Street; motion was seconded by Councilor Devine and
passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine,
Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Resolution 19-80, Approved, Granting a Special Use Permit for
Increased Residential Density for the Janney-Marshall Building, a Mixed-
Use Project in the Commercial Downtown Zoning District (D19-410). In
reference to discussions at the public hearing on September 10 Councilor Duffy asked Mr.
John Janney the value of the tax credit with keeping the shed. Mr. Janney explained that he
would get a twenty percent federal tax credit and a twenty-five percent state tax credit of the
total renovation cost and the cost could be $2,000,000 which equals $900,000 in credit.
Mayor Greenlaw clarified that Mr. Janney could only get this credit if the shed was left
in place for five years.
Discussions were had regarding the lack of parking in the area and that a parking fund
needed to be created. Mr. Janney agreed and said the City needed to look at developing a
master plan for parking and as a developer he would be willing to pay for parking. He noted
that Frederick Street rarely had anyone parked on it and with the six spaces onsite he said he
could make it through until he could build the parking next to the building.
Vice-Mayor Withers made a motion to approve Resolution 19-80, granting a Special
Use Permit for increased residential density for the Janney-Marshall Building, a mixed-use
project in the Commercial Downtown Zoning District; motion was seconded by Councilor
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Graham and passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (6). Councilors Greenlaw,
Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye and Graham. Nays (1). Councilor Kelly.
Resolution 19-81, Approved, Granting a Special Exceptions for
Minimum Commercial Area for the Janney-Marshall Building on Princess
Anne Street (D19-410). Vice-Mayor Withers made a motion to approve Resolution 19-
81, granting a Special Exceptions for minimum commercial area for the Janney-Marshall
Building on Princess Anne Street; motion was seconded by Councilor Graham and passed by
the following recorded votes. Ayes (6). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye
and Graham. Nays (1). Councilor Kelly.
Resolution 19-82, Approved, Initiating an Amendment to the 2015
Comprehensive Plan Amend Chapter 11, “Planning Areas,” to Change the
Future Land Use of Planning Area 5B (D19-411 thru D19-412). After staff
presentation Councilor Duffy made a motion to approve Resolution 19-82, initiating an
amendment to the 2015 Comprehensive Plan Amend Chapter 11, “Planning Areas,” to
change the future land use of Planning Area 5B; motion was seconded by Councilor Devine
and passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine,
Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Resolution 19-83, First Read Approved, Amending the Fiscal Year
2020 Capital Budget for the Small Area Plan Project (D19-413). After staff
presentation Councilor Kelly made a motion to approve Resolution 19-83, on first read,
amending the Fiscal Year 2020 Capital Budget for the Small Area Plan project; motion was
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seconded by Councilor Devine and passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7).
Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
Resolution 19-84, Approved, Creating the City Council-City Schools
Joint Working Group, and Appointing the City Council Members (D19-
414). After staff presentation Councilor Devine made a motion to approve Resolution 19-84,
creating the City Council-City Schools Joint Working Group, and appointing the City Council
members; motion was seconded by Councilor Duffy and passed by the following recorded
votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly.
Nays (0).
Councilor Devine made a motion to appoint Mayor Greenlaw and Councilor Kelly as
the Council representatives for the Working Group; motion was seconded by Councilor
Duffy and passed by the following recorded votes. Ayes (7). Councilors Greenlaw, Withers,
Devine, Duffy, Frye, Graham and Kelly. Nays (0).
City Manager’s Report and Council Calendar (D19-415 thru D19-
416). City Manager Baroody directed Council’s attention to the Manager’s report and
Council Calendar. Activities highlighted on the report were as follows: Parks, Recreation and
Events Strategic Planning Survey, VML Innovation Award for Environmental Quality, New
Payment Portal for Utility Billing, Baseball Team Store New Hours, Parking Garage Now
Cashless, Census 2020, Save the Date for the Big Fall Clean UP!, Soggy Doggy Event,
Restrooms at Memorial Park Update, United Way Benefit Golf Tournament, City Public
Safety Staff Helps Make Child’s Birthday Party a Success, Food Access Open House at
Fredericksburg Farmers Market, Register now for the Fredericksburg Veterans Day
Procession! and Fred Focus.
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Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, Mayor Greenlaw declared the meeting officially adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Mary Katherine Greenlaw
Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Mayor
Tonya B. Lacey
Tonya B. Lacey, Clerk of Council, CMC
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