City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · June 18, 2020
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. JASON N. GRAHAM, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Special Work Session
June 18, 2020
Next Steps Related to Civil Unrest
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a special work session on
Thursday, June 18, 2020, beginning at 5:30 p.m. using electronic communication through
GoToMeeting pursuant to and in compliance with the City Council Ordinance 20-05, an ordinance
to address Continuity of City Government during the pendency of a pandemic disaster.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Vice-Mayor William C.
Withers, Jr., Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Timothy P. Duffy, Charlie L. Frye, Jr., Jason N. Graham
and Matthew J. Kelly.
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, City Attorney Kathleen A. Dooley,
Police Chief Brian Layton and Clerk of Council Tonya B. Lacey.
Next Steps Related to Civil Unrest. City Manager Baroody gave an update on the
actions of the past week. He recognized the anger and outrage that has been going on locally and
nationally. He accepted responsibility for any part he contributed to this anger locally by directing
the Chief of Police to treat protesters as city sponsored. He explained that the police were being
staged a block or so behind the protester to divert traffic accordingly. He said he spoke to many
property and business owners regarding this. He said they had been meeting with protesters all
week and he hoped the evenings have been much quieter. Mr. Baroody noted that deescalating
techniques would continue to be used but would need to be reciprocated by all. He was appreciative
of the patience from the police officers, residents, business owner and protesters.
Mr. Baroody walked through the draft response and recovery plan which the immediate
phase would play out over the next three to six weeks. (See Attachment I).
Councilor Graham said one important goal was reform measures but he said it would be
important to recognize the proper role of police officers. He said they have been asked to take on
roles such as psychologist, social worker, life coach, etc. He said the right personnel needed to be
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present. Councilor Graham said it was unfair to ask the officers to do this and he would like to
make this an explicit goal.
Councilor Devine stated that our Police department was partnered with many local groups
that support social services. She also suggested including someone from Social Services on the
Incident Management Team.
Councilor Devine asked City Manager Baroody to let people know what script they would
hear if they call 911 regarding protesters. City Manager Baroody read the statement that would be
read to the public if they encounter protesters.
Councilor Devine asked the role of the Citizen Advisory Panel (CAP) and Chief Layton gave
a brief history of how they were formed. He said the Panel was created in 2015 by Chief Nye, it
included six professional members who live in the City. The role has been up to this point was two
way, they met quarterly and it was the police’s job to teach them what the department was all about.
They would review department directives, use of force incidents, specialty teams, input in creating
policy. They could also bring ideas, problems or suggestions to the Police Department that they see
in the community and offer criticism or ways to improve. The panel was a huge step in the right
direction and they will be sharing the after action report of the incidents of May 31 and June 2.
Councilor Frye stated that there was a request to have some younger members added to the
CAP in order to help with communications. He would like to see a voice of the younger kids but he
was not sure the legalities of this.
City Attorney Dooley stated that the CAP was involved in close review of their mission and
membership. She said they were open to expanding the membership and bringing younger voices
on the board. She said they were also looking at other CAP’s within the Commonwealth to see what
their memberships look like, and to see how they define their missions. She plans to bring this
information to the City’s CAP so they can determine how to shape their vision and membership
proposals.
Councilor Frye also noted that the Incident Management Team does not have an African
American on it and he believe it is important to have someone from the African American
community.
Councilor Kelly said bringing in an outside group to look at the technical issues of law
enforcement would not be a bad idea. He agreed there must be community involvement. He said
their needed to be community discussion and he suggested going to the neighborhoods to discuss.
He also suggested that the Council retreat not include this topic but to have an additional meeting to
discuss this topic only.
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Councilor Kelly thanked Mayor Greenlaw, Councilor Devine, staff and the leaders of the
protest for meeting and he spoke of how he appreciated Dr. Catlett talking to the protesters and
telling them about her experiences. He expressed his concern with the protesters blocking traffic
downtown and blocking/hitting cars and yelling at drivers. He said he fears there being an
altercation by passion and fears. He wanted to be sure that when the Police are called they would
respond. He added that there were some demands that were no brainers, but there were others that
required discussions.
Vice-Mayor Wither agreed that the focus should be on reforms but suggested maybe the
retreat should be extended from two days to three days in order to discuss all the issues. He asked
Mayor Greenlaw if she could give an overview of the discussions with protesters.
Mayor said they sat down with the protest leaders and three of the demands were to have the
charges expunged for the 51 who were out past curfew, give the identification of who issued the tear
gas command, and a formal apology. The mutual concern of taking a look at the City’s polices and a
full report of what happened May 31 through the first full week of June. Mayor Greenlaw noted
that the Council could not dictate what the Commonwealth Attorney does but they were speaking
with her. She said this was a great opportunity to get young people engaged.
Vice-Mayor Withers said he was hopeful the City could find a way to calm people and find a
way to communicate with them.
Councilor Duffy noted that the protester and their supporter have many questions and
demands and he appreciate the way Council and staff has engaged them. He was hopeful that
progress could be made with them. He hoped the City could remain focused on the issue of racial
injustice and not be overcome by the other events. Councilor Duffy was thankful for City Manager
Baroody moving forward on some of these things. He also wanted to make note that the CAP was
an initiative of the Police Department. He said it was not imposed on them by right thinking
people, they did it on their own. Councilor Duffy noted that the City has a forward thinking Police
Department that would be moving forward with the City to a more racial justice society. He said
there needed to be continued discussion that were educational for everyone and part of those
discussions need to include what white privilege is as well as racial disparities.
Councilor Frye said he would like to be sure the Council sticks to the issues of racial
disparities and injustices after the City deals with the protesters. He said the City had already opened
the door and was already working on telling the story. He said the City had already been working on
racial issues when it tackled the slave auction block.
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Councilor Graham stated that the City’s Police Department has worked hard to build trust
over the decades and they have nothing to hide and they were willing to be open to the community.
Vice-Mayor Withers suggested everyone wait to see what the report had to say before going
with a third party and Councilor Graham said actions speak louder than words.
City Attorney Dooley said this would be a challenge the City would have to meet and she
would work with the Council to develop a review process that would meet the community’s
expectation as well as the Council and the Police Department.
Mayor Greenlaw added that the City had been hearing from a lot of people and they
appreciate the sincerity of all the messages from everyone. She said it was mutual concern that
everyone was contacting the Council and they want to address all racial inequality and discrimination
in all forms. She asked the entire community to join in and participate in the Community wide
meetings. She said with the help of the entire community they would like to write the next chapter
of this community.
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this time.
Mayor Greenlaw declared the session officially adjourned at 6:39 p.m.
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Tonya B. Lacey, MMC
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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