City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · April 20, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD FOUR
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. JASON N. GRAHAM, WARD ONE
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., WARD TWO
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
April 20, 2021
Fiscal Year 2022 Recommended Budget Discussions
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
April 20, 2021, beginning at 5:30 p.m. using electronic communication through GoToMeeting
pursuant to and in compliance with the City Council Ordinance 20-05, an ordinance to address
Continuity of City Government during the pendency of a pandemic disaster.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Vice-Mayor Charlie L.
Frye, Jr. Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Timothy P. Duffy, Jason N. Graham, Matthew J. Kelly and
William C. Withers, Jr.
Also Present. City Manager Timothy J. Baroody, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Budget Manager Brenna Erford, and Clerk of Council
Tonya B. Lacey.
Fiscal Year 2022 Recommended Budget Discussions. Councilor Duffy disclosed
that he was employed by the Fredericksburg Schools System as the Principal at James Monroe
High School but that he could participate fairly, objectively and in the public interest.
Vice-Mayor Frye disclosed that his wife was an employee of the Fredericksburg Schools
System but that he could participate fairly, objectively and in the public interest.
Budget Manager Erford presented a PowerPoint presentation and she discussed the
following: Work Session Operating Budget Propositions. See Attachment I for more
information.
Mayor Greenlaw included a proposition for the Virginia Food Connection she said this
was a new agency but she believed it was important for families in the amount of $5000.
Councilor Kelly listed several concerns with this budget; he did not like increasing
revenues in one area and spending it and calling it a positive in the budget, he was concerned
1
with going less than the advertised tax rate for this budget and finally he wanted some
conclusion of the school issue.
Councilor Withers said he was concerned the City was losing employees to jobs that
were paying more and he said he relies on staff to tell the Council what was best for retention
because it was cheaper than losing employees. He said this would be money well spent. Mayor
Greenlaw agreed that the raises were essential.
Councilor Graham agreed with the raises, he noted that the City was not only competing
with localities but the City was now a part of the DC metro area and the costs were real. He
was looking forward to the pay and comp study results. He said he was also in agreement with
the Virginia Food Connections because the pandemic had upset a lot of food security and he
thought this was a good organization to make an exception for.
Councilor Kelly said he did not disagree with the salaries for employees. He said the City
was a victim of its size. He said the City would have continuous discussions on salaries because
the surrounding counties would continue to increase their salaries for fire and police. He said
the City had not established its focus and priorities moving forward and until those are
established it would hinder the City’s ability to respond in future years.
Councilor Devine said the City would always be competing to other localities but it was
important to try and retain its valuable employees. She said, this year especially, the staff had
been working under very difficult conditions, helping the community and making sure they got
their vaccines and they had been going above and beyond and it was important they know the
Council supports them. She was in support of the Virginia Food Connection because there were
so much food insecurities.
Councilor Duffy was in support of the propositions because he said staff has never been
negligent when they bring things to Council. He agreed that there were some uncertainties on
the horizon but these were good decisions.
Mayor Greenlaw asked the Council for support of the propositions and all were in
support except Councilor Kelly.
CIP Propositions – Ms. Erford presented PowerPoint slides discussing the Work Session
CIP Propositions and Budget Calendar.
Councilor Kelly asked how staff had arrived at the $40 million estimate. Ms. Erford said
the amount was increased based on current trends because they do not have an engineering
2
estimate. This number was only a placeholder. Mr. Whitley noted that the $1 million would
help to define the estimated number. He said there were many factors to determine the cost of
the school such as size, whether it goes vertical and site. He said those questions would need to
be answered and that was the reason for assigning funds to the schools.
Councilor Kelly wanted to know how much input the Council would have in moving this
forward. Mayor Greenlaw said the City was supporting the school with the funds and they had
already hired and architectural firm for planning and this should allow them to come back with
good numbers. She agreed there needed to be collaboration on how this project moved
forward.
Councilor Devine said this was a working number and it was an estimate and the Council
and community would be working with the School Board to arrive at this number. She also
suggested that this would be a good opportunity for Councilor Kelly to be a part of the
committee if one was formed.
Councilor Withers said the City was simply approving money for planning in this year’s
budget and he was not opposed to going forward with the planning. Vice-Mayor Frye agreed.
Mayor Greenlaw asked Councilor Devine if she would suggest moving forward with a
taskforce and she agreed but said it should be a collaborative effort. She said the taskforce
should include Council, School Board and community members. She said the design of the
school should be so that areas are accessible by the community.
Mr. Baroody said the School Board and the Superintendent have shown a willingness to
partner with Council. He reminded the Council that there was an existing taskforce and he
suspected they would be willing to resurrect that taskforce.
Councilor Duffy said he agreed that there needed to be firmer number and the CIP
addresses the need.
Mayor Greenlaw said they do not want to hamstring decisions because there are many
options and in order to have good professional help this $1 million would help.
Councilor Kelly said he was in support of the $1 million. He said his concern was that in
all the other projects such as the previous schools the police department, the parking garage,
the City has made the argument of the cost but he said this was not the case this time.
3
Councilor Graham said he would like to bring forward a resolution to City Council to
bring schools forward not necessarily 2-3 years but he would like to get this school build as
soon as feasible.
Vice-Mayor Frye because of progress made to date shows how much work that has
been done and the work the Council had done with the School board shows them where the
City is financially and it allows everyone to have a better understanding of where everyone is.
Mayor Greenlaw said she was impressed with the apprentice programs and she noted
the City was progressing on several front. She said the City was doing an amazing amount of
work with a very limited staff and she said workforce development would not get lost.
Councilor Duffy said it was staggering the amount of initiatives staff was working on. He
said the needs of the school stacking up was a reason for proceeding with the school. He said
the needs were significant and letting many of these things go for so long was catching up with
the City. He said it was critical that the City gets this right.
Councilor Withers said he was supportive of the $1 million but he would not support a
resolution that locks the Council in until there were more discussions.
Councilor Devine said the need for English as a Second Language population, special
needs population were needs for a new school and speak to smaller class sizes and quality
space. In the past decade the City has seen a huge residential growth and it had been
addressed with Band-Aids. She said the City needed to move forward and with community
dialog and that has been happening. Councilor Devine noted that this one school would not
meet every need but it would give some creative breathing room and possibly make some
space for workforce development. The City would need to be creative with its workforce
development because the City was smaller than the counties it would not be as robust. She
said kids cannot be successful when they are crowded in classrooms.
Councilor Devine explained that the configuration of schools was the purview of the
schools and the Council should not have a say in that. She said the school needed to move
forward.
Mr. Whitley said the plan is to set aside $6 million cash balance to make a difference in
the debt that has to be issued.
Mr. Whitley explained that the proposition regarding traffic study included $200,000 in
Fiscal Year 2023 for north of downtown and the funding would come from the motor fuels tax.
4
Vice-Mayor Frye asked how the traffic study would work and he also asked about the concerns
from the Rising Sun Neighborhood.
Mr. Baroody explained that there had been lots of conversations on this matter and the
Planning Commission had been interested in one-way to two-way conversions in the
downtown. There were four one-way to two-way conversions. He said the City was committed
to converting Washington Avenue in 2023. Mr. Baroody said he would like to do the
engineering of all one-way to two-way conversions at the same time. He said it was important
to do the engineering of all them at the same time with the same consultant.
Mr. Baroody also said with Council’s concurrence he would like to address complaints
on the Caroline corridor. He said the consultant’s report did not see any significant speeding
issues but suggested traffic calming measures were appropriate (bump outs). Mr. Baroody said
they cost approximately $25,000 and he suggested taking it from the street paving money.
Councilor Kelly suggested if bump outs were going to be added to Caroline and Pitt
Streets he would like to see 45 degree curbs instead of hard curbs. He said the bump outs on
Stafford Avenue had to be removed because they caused so many issues. He said the City
needed to look at the engineering.
Councilor Graham asked if the safety of cyclist was considered and Mr. Baroody said he
would check into it.
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time. Mayor Greenlaw declared the session officially adjourned at 6:43 p.m.
______________________
Tonya B. Lacey
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
5
Get email alerts for Fredericksburg
A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.