Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingFresno, CA · June 24, 2019
Minutes
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Minutes - Final
Monday, June 24, 2019
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
Fresno City Hall, Second Floor
Room 2165N (Conference Room A)
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair Patrick Boyd
Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD+C
Commissioners:
Robin Goldbeck; Paul Halajian, AIA; Ron McNary;
C. Kristina Roper, M.A.; Don Simmons, Ph.D.
Staff:
Daniel Zack, AICP Assistant Director; Laura van Onna, Historic
Preservation Specialist; Amber Piona, Planner II, Recording Secretary;
John Hastrup, Deputy City Attorney II
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chair Jason Hatwig at 6:03 PM.
Commissioners Present: Robin Goldbeck, Paul Halajian, Jason Hatwig,
Ron McNary, and Don Simmons
Staff Present: Laura Groves van Onna, John Hastrup (CAO), Amber Piona
and Dan Zack (late).
Present 5 - Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, Commissioner Don Simmons,
Commissioner Ron McNary, Commissioner Robin Goldbeck,
and Commissioner Paul Halajian
Absent 2 - Chair Patrick Boyd, and Commissioner C. Kristina Roper
II. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
A. ID19-1930 Approve Minutes for May 20, 2019.
Attachments: HPC_Minutes_May_20_2019
The minutes for May 20, 2019 were approved 5-0 with a motion by
Commissioner Simmons and a second by Commissioner Goldbeck.
III. APPROVE AGENDA
The agenda with was approved 5-0 with a motion by Commissioner Halajian
and a second by Commissioner Simmons.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. None.
V. CONTINUED MATTERS
A. None.
VI. COMMISSION ITEMS
A. ID19-1931 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS
AND OPTIONS FOR THE BELMONT AVENUE AND TRAFFIC
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CIRCLE INTERPRETIVE EXHIBIT FROM THE CALIFORNIA
HIGH-SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO FMC
12-1606(b)(6).
Attachments: HSR Belmont Interpretive Exhibit Attachments
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna presented the staff
report of the proposed locations and options for the Belmont Avenue and
Traffic Circle interpretive exhibit from the California High-Speed Rail
Authority. The High-Speed Rail Authority is proposing three potential
locations for the exhibit. Primary concerns for staff are the placement,
design, and materials of the exhibit. Location 1 is the preferred option. Staff
encourages discussion in pursuit of optimal design that enhances, and
minimizes any potential adverse effect to, the historic character of the
property. Staff recommends that a crosswalk be incorporated across
Belmont Avenue to provide safe pedestrian access to the exhibit.
Dan Zack arrives 6:07p.m.
Public Comment Opens
David Davenport (6158 N Miter): I’ve been here since August of 1990 and
am a retired history professor at Fresno City Cottage. With respect of the
signage, on the side we are looking at there is a four foot facing, I am
concerned about accessibility for folks in wheelchairs, it should be lower.
Secondly, I could be confused about High-Speed Rail; my understanding
was that much of what is being proposed may not be funded at all. It seems
to me to be premature to suggest to mitigation to explaining the
disappearance of the subway and traffic circle which may not disappear
because this project is dead. I understand that the High-Speed Rail people
are to continue to do things in anticipation of some kind of funding, but this
to me says that we’re in favor of getting rid of the subway and circle. I am
not in favor of that. The next part of this agenda, putting in a sound barrier
that looks to me to be suggest the complete elimination with the Golden
State Boulevard not in keeping with 2009 Chaffee Zoo and Roeding Park
Master Plan; this will destroy trees planted by George Roeding himself.
This is concerning because over the years it seems that the zoo has
encroached upon the public part of the park, and eliminating trees that have
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been there for more than a 100 years. Moreover the master plan says the
zoo entrance would be on Golden State Boulevard, which wouldn’t exist if
High-Speed Rail was funded to be funded at the level to fulfil somebody’s
dream. Both of these things seem to be tied together intimately; this is
premature for this body to be endorsing some proposals. The sound barrier
doesn’t need to be there until the tracks are laid. What High-Speed Rail has
turned into is maybe at best a diesel/electric locomotive that might do
35mph when it goes through Fresno which is similar to what the UP rail is
doing now. This is out of order, not from a Robert’s Rules of Order, but
rather chronologically. That is all I have to say. Thank you for your time.
Vice-Chair Jason Hatwig: Tonight we are just doing review and comment on
the item. No approvals moving forward, correct?
Deputy City Attorney John Hastrup: Correct.
Public Comment Closed
Commissioner Don Simmons: Regarding ADA compliance, could we get
some response regarding monuments such as this. The current design has
a height concern and also a visual concern for compliance with ADA.
Commissioner Robin Goldbeck: I would add that these designs are all
shown in a block format, which keeps wheelchairs from pulling up to the
display. The design would need more of a shelf so that chairs could pull up
to the display.
Simmons: If you are visually impaired, or old, it would be very hard to read
this. Also, it is only in English. There are a number of problems here.
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna: What is the actual
size of the panel?
Robert Ramirez, High-Speed Rail Authority (1111 H Street): Dimensions
were estimations because right now a builder hasn’t been identified. We
work with a contractor to pull together a mockup, when it needs to be built
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then we will identify a contractor.
Deputy City Engineer Jesus Avitia: These comments have been noted and
we will take them back with the design to our ADA Coordinator. With
regards to the size of the plaque, our interpretive display will be able to
accommodate the size of font needed for ADA. We’d be happy to come back
at your next meeting with answers to your questions.
Commissioner Paul Halajian: Please also consider folks with hearing
impairments.
Hatwig: As far as the materials, I am a fan of this particular material palette.
Avitia: To Commissioner Goldbeck’s comments, regarding wheelchairs
being to pull up to the display, do you have an idea of how that might
happen, perhaps as a tabletop?
Goldbeck: I am not sure how you want to design it, but a pillar that a
wheelchair could matriculate around. Is there a reason why it needs to be
one solid monument? Also keep information at one level.
Hatwig: Inset to the grass, potentially?
Goldbeck: That as well.
Hatwig: I agree with staff’s recommendation, I think it is the best for foot
traffic. I am partial to Location 1; the other ones seem either out of the way
or on the bridge and too close to becoming an obstacle.
Simmons: The bridge had some specific design features that aren’t reflected
here. It’s a pretty bridge, and this doesn’t call that to mind at all.
Halajian: Is there that it could be lit, so that at night it is more of a feature
rather than a place to hide behind? It would make it more useful and create
more of a sense of place.
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Goldbeck: I suspect that the grassy area might have lighting, but Paul’s
point is well taken.
Halajian: What does it look like on the back side? Is it monolithic? I support
Don’s comments about the lack of character in regards to the detailing.
Ramirez: If you maintain that overall monolithic look, as opposed to open it
up, we can reflect the look on the back.
Goldbeck: The point is that the relief that is on the existing bridge should
somehow be incorporated.
Groves van Onna: You would like to see the Gothic arches?
Hatwig: I think that would be nice. Having some of those characteristics
implemented would be nice.
Halajian: What about a QR code so that someone could download an app
and listen to a message? I know that would require more effort and
maintenance.
Hatwig: Like a storyland key? A QR is pretty advanced, but it could help.
Goldbeck: I prefer location 1 as well.
Halajian: I agree.
Hatwig: So Location 1, crosswalks, accessibility, and lighting.
Brett Rushing, High-Speed Rail Authority: We’re open to working with you
to find something that accommodates all, I think the QR code is a really
good idea and we’ll look into that. We’re most interested in the location right
now, options for design is something we can work with. We will do anything
we can.
Hatwig: Having it set on the grass so that it gets a person off the path of
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travel would help.
Meg Scantlebury, High-Speed Rail Authority: The text in the exhibit here is
also open for editing; it is initial text we’re proposing.
Item Closed
B. ID19-1932 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED DESIGN FOR
THE SOUND WALL ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF
ROEDING PARK FROM THE CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED RAIL
AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1606(b)(6).
Attachments: HSR Roeding Park Sound Wall Attachments
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna presented the staff
report on the proposed design for the sound wall along the eastern boundary
of Roeding Park by the California High-Speed Rail Authority. The plans for
the sound wall entail the construction of approximately 2,866-foot long,
14-foot high sound wall, constructed using pre-cast concrete panels with a
river rock texture on both sides, supported by posts. Plants would be
installed at regular intervals along the park side of the sound wall. Staff
encourages discussion in pursuit of optimal design that enhances, and
minimizes any potential adverse effects to, the historic character of the
property.
Commissioner Ron McNary: Where is the wall located?
Groves van Onna: Along the eastern boundary of Roeding Park.
McNary: So Golden State Boulevard will be gone?
Halajian: Yes, it would be the train trench.
Avitia: The entire section between Olive and Belmont will be vacated.
Hatwig: So this is for noise mitigation?
Avitia: Yes.
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Halajian: So the surface you’re proposing will occur on both sides of the
wall?
Julie Reith, TPZP: Yes.
Simmons: Was there an estimate of the number of trees that will be lost?
Patrick Tennant, ESA: EIR did not specify, but an arborist did an evaluation.
Hatwig: So if it can be relocated, it will be?
Tennant: If they can be relocated, then yes, otherwise replanting.
Avitia: Public Works has been working with the High-Speed Rail and we will
identify the trees, and our arborist together with the Authority will determine
what trees will be removed and the City will specify what trees we would
like to be replaced.
Halajian: On the elevation you showed, is that vines growing over the wall?
Jon Waggoner, ESA: The EIR specified aesthetic treatment in the form of
plantings, either bushes or attached planting vines. This mockup shows
vines, but it could be either. Aesthetic treatment is a part of this mitigation.
Goldbeck: Is this a painted surface? What about graffiti?
Waggoner: Colored concrete with graffiti protectant on it.
Goldbeck: Okay, it looks like a potential canvas to me.
Public Comment Open
Davenport: I think the zoo people should be signing off on this, period.
Chaffee zoo board should sign off this agreement.
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Public Comment Closed
Hatwig: I think that that was a good comment. I think it would be good that
the people who will be living with the wall on this side get a chance to
comment on the wall itself, has that been done?
Mike Murphy, High-Speed Rail Authority: We have been working with the
PARCS Department which oversees the zoo and the park about every other
month or so.
Simmons: Is there any consideration of wildlife movement?
Murphy: One of the issues with a sound wall is that if you have corridors it
breaks up the sound mitigation. Wildlife corridors along the rail have been
examined and there are other corridors for wildlife to cross.
Halajian: What is on the east side of the railway right-of-way? What’s
bordering the east side?
Avitia: the Union Pacific Railroad line.
Halajian: What’s the neighborhood bordering the right-of-way?
Avitia: It would be the existing Weber Avenue. No changes.
Halajian: Why do we need a sound wall from the zoo side to the rail but not
on the east side?
Murphy: There are noise standards for High-Speed Rail, on the park side
the train would be in excess of those standards which is why a sound wall is
required. These sound standards are related to distance; Weber is far
enough away that a sound wall is not required.
Halajian: Thank you.
Scantlebury: If you look closely, the diagram shows the extent of the
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easement; the number of trees that would be affected would be
comparatively small to the number of trees in the whole park. In addition to
having an arborist go out there, they will go through and trim what can be
trimmed to make sure that the optimum number of trees could be protected.
This is all written in the Finding of Effect and the arborist’s report.
Ramirez: The inset table gives you a breakdown of the potential number of
trees. It’s 20 and there will be others that will be trimmed.
Goldbeck: Am I seeing 15 feet easement in the upper right corner, coming
down to 5 feet and then 15 feet on the north side?
Ramirez: Correct. That distance allows finish work and the establishment of
irrigation lines.
Halajian: It doesn’t have broad cantilevered footing; it has piles and is
narrow. Is that the foundation system?
Ramirez: Yes.
Hatwig: I’ve had projects with narrow corridors and this method is the one
with the least impact.
Goldbeck: Is the 14 foot height the maximum height?
Murphy: Yes it is the maximum height; there is a mitigation of 2 dB per foot
to a maximum of 14 feet.
Davenport: Can someone point out the Japanese war memorial relative to
where the wall will be?
Scantlebury: The memorial is 15’3” away. There are protective measures in
place to keep the memorial protected during construction.
Davenport: Okay. I ask because I am kind of the local authority on Liberty
Cemetery and we had talked about moving that memorial to Liberty
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Cemetery if it were going to be in the way.
Reith: The memorial has been recorded photographically, to make sure that
it will be fine after construction.
Hatwig: I think our aesthetic comments are only that it’s graffiti coated, I
don’t know if I have any more concerns.
Halajian: Has the zoo been consulted?
Avitia: Yes, there are a few minor details in the design that we are working
out.
Hatwig: We’ll be seeing this again, eventually.
McNary: I would like to see the zoo involved in any kind of discussion.
Avitia: We work through the PARCS Department, we aren’t sure if there’s an
agreement between the zoo and PARCS that would give the zoo that
authority.
McNary: So Chaffee and PARCS work together?
Assistant Director Dan Zack: The PARCS Department is the landlord and
the zoo a tenant.
McNary: Oh, okay.
Item Closed.
VII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
VIII. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
None.
A. Members of the Commission
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None.
B. Staff
1. Mills Act
Mills Act: Staff informed the Commission about the 2019 Mills Act
application deadline is Friday June 28, 2019. The City has received four
applications so far.
McNary: You will have mine by the end of the week.
2. City Council Items
City Council items: Staff informed the Commission about the City Council
hearings on the Historic Property nominations that were approved by the
HPC in May; they were originally scheduled for last week, but have been
rescheduled for Thursday June 27th.
3. Training
Training: Staff plans to work on arranging commissioner training with the
Commission Assistance and Mentoring Program (CAMP). If the
Commission has thoughts, let staff know.
Hatwig: What is important when evaluating façades, where does the
flexibility lie?
4. Surveys
Surveys- Commissioner Halajian is working with Better Blackstone which
has received funding through the Design Challenge. Is it possible to move
the mid-century modernism survey up the priority list that the Commission
established?
Groves van Onna: It is possible, although survey work is very time
intensive. Chinatown survey is next on the list and is going to move forward
with that next month, because that is our most critical area. How does the
rest of the Commission feel?
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Halajian: What was even on there?
Simmons: Hitching posts, Chinatown, Blackstone, Yosemite Avenue.
Zack: Should we bring this item back next month for discussion?
Halajian: This isn’t something we need right away. I wouldn’t want to put it
before Chinatown, but if it were moved from say priority number 4 to 2, that
would be good.
Groves van Onna: Would you like to revisit this next time?
[All]: Yes.
Sierra Skypark: Staff informed the commission that a resident of the Sierra
Skypark neighborhood reached out wants to come to a Commission meeting
and is seeking help in preserving their neighborhood.
Hatwig: This is the neighborhood with homes with hangars attached?
Excellent.
Goldbeck: Are those 50 years old now?
Recording Secretary Amber Piona: Yes. 1946 was the subdivision.
Groves van Onna: Technically the airport is in city limits, but the
neighborhood is not, it’s in Fresno County. At the very least they could come
here and seek some guidance on how to protect their neighborhood.
Goldbeck: Do they have a neighborhood organization now?
Groves van Onna: I believe so, yes.
Hatwig: I wonder if it would be beneficial to connect them with some of the
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folks in the Huntington Boulevard district.
Simmons: I would recommend Wilson Island.
Zack: Apparently the airport was created in 1946 and the first 110 homes
were built in 1953.
Halajian: Their vision of the future didn’t exactly pan out. We’re not all flying
to work every day.
C. General Public
None.
IX. NEXT MEETING: July 22, 2019, 6 PM Conference Room A, City Hall.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Vice-Chair Hatwig adjourned the meeting at 6:53 PM.
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Agenda
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, June 24, 2019
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
Fresno City Hall, Second Floor
Room 2165N (Conference Room A)
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair Patrick Boyd
Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD+C
Commissioners:
Robin Goldbeck; Paul Halajian, AIA; Ron McNary;
C. Kristina Roper, M.A.; Don Simmons, Ph.D.
Staff:
Daniel Zack, AICP Assistant Director; Laura van Onna, Historic Preservation
Specialist; Amber Piona, Planner II, Recording Secretary; John Hastrup,
Deputy City Attorney II
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The Historic Preservation Commission welcomes you to Room 2165, located in City Hall,
2nd Floor, 2600 Fresno Street, Fresno, California 93721.
The City of Fresno’s goal is to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) in all
respects. The meeting room is physically accessible. If, as an attendee or participant at the
meeting, you need additional accommodations such as interpreters, signers, assistive
listening devices, or the services of a translator, please contact the Office of the City Clerk
at (559) 621-7650 or clerk@fresno.gov. To ensure availability, you are advised to make
your request at least 48 hours prior to the meeting. The agenda and related staff reports
are available at www.fresno.gov, as well as in the Office of the City Clerk.
La Comision de Preservacion Historica le da la bienvenida al cuarto de junta 2165 ubicado
en la Alcaldía (City Hall), 2do piso, 2600 Fresno Street, Fresno, California 93721.
El objetivo de la Ciudad de Fresno es cumplir con la Ley de Americanos con
Discapacidades (ADA) en todo aspecto. La cuarto para juntas es físicamente accesible. Si
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of the City Clerk.
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
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II. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
A. ID19-1930 Approve Minutes for May 20, 2019.
III. APPROVE AGENDA
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. None.
V. CONTINUED MATTERS
A. None.
VI. COMMISSION ITEMS
A. ID19-1931 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS AND
OPTIONS FOR THE BELMONT AVENUE AND TRAFFIC CIRCLE
INTERPRETIVE EXHIBIT FROM THE CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED
RAIL AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1606(b)(6).
B. ID19-1932 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED DESIGN FOR
THE SOUND WALL ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF
ROEDING PARK FROM THE CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED RAIL
AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1606(b)(6).
VII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
VIII. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
A. Members of the Commission
B. Staff
C. General Public
IX. NEXT MEETING: July 22, 2019, 6 PM Conference Room A, City Hall.
X. ADJOURNMENT
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