Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingFresno, CA · December 16, 2019
Minutes
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Minutes - Final
Monday, December 16, 2019
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
Fresno City Hall, Second Floor
Room 2165N (Conference Room A)
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair Patrick Boyd
Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD+C
Commissioners:
Robin Goldbeck; Paul Halajian, AIA; Ron McNary;
C. Kristina Roper, M.A.; Don Simmons, Ph.D.
Staff:
Daniel Zack, AICP Assistant Director; Laura Groves van Onna, Historic
Preservation Specialist; Harkiran Kaur, Services Aide, Recording
Secretary; Rina Gonzales, Deputy City Attorney III
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Present 4 - Chair Patrick Boyd, Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, Commissioner
Robin Goldbeck, and Commissioner Don Simmons
Absent 3 - Commissioner Paul Halajian, Commissioner C. Kristina
Roper, and Commissioner Ron McNary
II. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
A. ID20-00011 Approve Minutes for October 28, 2019.
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Attachments: HPC_Minutes_Oct_28_2019.pdf
The minutes for October 28, 2019 were approved 4-0 with a motion by Chair
Boyd and a second by Vice Chair Hatwig.
III. APPROVE AGENDA
The agenda with was approved 4-0 with a motion by Commissioner
Goldbeck and a second by Chair Boyd.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. None.
V. CONTINUED MATTERS
A. None.
VI. COMMISSION ITEMS
A. ID20-00011 CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF REQUEST BY THE
3 PROPERTY OWNER TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY
COUNCIL THE DESIGNATION OF THE FOLLOWING
PROPERTY TO THE LOCAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC
RESOURCES AND ADOPTION OF FINDINGS NECESSARY
TO SUPPORT RECOMMENDATION PURSUANT TO FMC
12-1609:
1. The Ridge Electric Motor Company Building Located at 1235
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G Street.
Staff Recommendation: Approve and forward to the City Council
Attachments: Local Register nomination Attachment.pdf
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna introduced the new
City Attorney representative, Rina Gonzales and the new Recording
Secretary, Harkiran Kaur. She presented the staff report on the application
by the owner to put the Ridge Electric Motor Company Building, 1235 G St,
on the Local Register of Historic Resources. The property consists of a
one-story commercial building, constructed in the Free-form/Mid-Century
Modern architectural style in Downtown Fresno. It was constructed in 1968
of concrete masonry units clad in smooth stucco ornamented by an eclectic
array of sculptural shapes consisting of brilliant blue tiles. The property is
greater than 50 years of age and possesses integrity of location, design,
materials, workmanship, feeling, and association, and is significant under
Local Register Criterion iii because it represents the work of two masters,
architect Robin Gay McCline and ceramics sculptor Stan Bitters. Because
the Ridge Electric Motor Company Building appears to be eligible for the
Local Register of Historic Resources, staff recommends that the
Commission approve the request for designation and forward to City
Council.
Chair Patrick Boyd: Are we considering just the front façade … or is it the
whole building?
Groves van Onna: We are considering the whole building.
Boyd: Okay. Are there any comments from staff? The property owner? The
general public? Okay, let’s bring it back to commission.
Vice Chair Jason Hatwig: It’s nice to see something artistic here. This is
exactly what preservation is all about. It’s not just because something is old,
it’s got a lot of character and is a shining example. I’m all for this project and
the kind of unique…
Boyd: Love seeing a more modern…
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Commissioner Robin Goldbeck: Exciting.
Commissioner Don Simmons: I’m sure somewhere in the archives is an
interview with…
Goldbeck: Cool.
Boyd: I have not seen that.
No Public Comment
Staff recommendation was approved 4-0 on a motion by Vice Chair Hatwig
and a second by Commissioner Goldbeck.
B. ID20-00011 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED RELOCATION
4 PLAN FOR THE VAN NESS ENTRANCE GATE (CR; FCL; HP
#082) LOCATED AT 2208 S VAN NESS AVENUE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO
FMC 12-1606(b)(6).
Attachments: Van Ness Gate Relocation Attachments.pdf
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna introduced the item
regarding the proposed relocation plan for the Van Ness Entrance Gate (CR;
FCL; HP #082) located at 2208 S Van Ness Avenue from the California
High-Speed Rail Authority and the presenter for this item, Robert Ramirez of
the California High-Speed Rail Authority.
Boyd: Absolutely, come on up. For the record, please state your name and
address.
Robert Ramirez, High-Speed Rail Authority (1501 Fulton Avenue): Because
of this project [High-Speed Rail], this portion of Van Ness Avenue is going
to be cul-de-sac’d, … since it’s served as an entrance … part of our
mitigation is to relocate it.
Boyd: It’s been a while.
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Ramirez: Mariposa Street was the alternative for it. We’ve been working on
a plan from where it is now. We touched on it at the December 14, 2015
HPC meeting. What we will discuss here is the logistics behind the
relocation itself. Before we did anything with regard to any moving, we
retained the sign that’s … The results of the assessment is the existing
support columns didn’t have enough structural integrity to reuse at the new
location. That was the biggest issue that was noted in terms of conditions.
… The light fixtures at the top of the columns could be reused at …
Boyd: And when you talk about that, sorry, it’s just moving that because of
the columns’ age – it’s moving it that makes the integrity …
Ramirez: The integrity … would not survive.
Boyd: Mhm, gotcha.
Ramirez: What you’re looking at here is the red outline that is the part that
would likely not be able to be moved to the new location. The green,
depending on further assessment, may be able to be moved. The light
fixtures could be moved to the new location. The span itself would be cut
free and transported and then reinstalled. What you see spanning the
roadway, as far as we can tell at the moment, it does contain enough
integrity… And then it’s kind of what I just said here. It’s placed on a flatbed
and … that’s a pretty significant section. So in terms of the condition of the
existing structure, that’s what we’re looking at.
Boyd: Are there steel poles in the middle of those concrete columns? Is that
how it is?
Ramirez: It’s steel beams, right? (asking representatives of moving company
in audience)
Arlen Tanielian, CNI: Actually, those fluted columns are filled with concrete.
The belief is that the beams must go from the top. There’s really…
(inaudible)
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Ramirez: And then you have the base.
Jim Williams (1235 G Street): Are you going to leave the name on it?
Ramirez: That would be discussion between the City and High-Speed Rail,
in terms of signage that’s retained. Obviously, that would be a further point
of consultation as we get closer to the moving of this sign and the
reattachment of it at the new location. So, at the relocation site, again, prior
to the relocation, looking to build the columns prior to the installation of the
actual archway and whatever logical work in footing work will occur at the
location. Obviously, the City will obtain the proper permits.
Boyd: Sure.
Ramirez: General estimate is that it will take four full working days to
accomplish this. Any issue that may come up with structural integrity … If
work does … In order to get it to meet whatever requirements with whatever
the city has in regards to structures. And a point of further discussion would
be just maintenance issues. Our mitigation measures did not specifically
discuss restoration or anything like that. Our mitigations just discussed the
relocation of it. I’m just following the guidelines with regards to mitigation.
But overall, that’s what I wanted to present to you all so that you’re aware of
the logistics behind the move. The [High-Speed Rail] Authority is aware of
the possible realignment of the street. I don’t know if that’s still in the off … I
know Randall Morrison [Assistant Director of Public Works] would like to
see the sign …
Boyd: Mhm.
Ramirez: So if you have your own redevelopment schedule, then we can
work within the …
Boyd: Um, because we’re essentially scratching the post completely, I
would assume that while the look will be as close as we can get it to the
original, the structural technique and structural abilities will be different. …
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Have you…
Ramirez: Yeah, that’s what we would work with CNI is the fabric
replacement of it. … Is this a specific type you can find off the shelf? Would
you be able to find at least something as close as possible to what already
exists?
Williams: Is the street that’s existing pretty close?
Ramirez: Any proposed realignment…
Boyd: Realignment is out of our league …
Assistant Director Dan Zack: I can speak to that a little bit. The long-term …
when that stretch of Mariposa Mall was opened, … it’s probably going to
stay on a little.
Ramirez: (inaudible)
Goldbeck: And to that point, I had a question. Is there a footprint…
Hatwig: Right-of-way width.
Zack: Yeah, the rights-of-way ought to both be the standard 80-foot
rights-of-way … Now in terms of the curb-to-curb width, … I think there are
parking lanes in that…
Goldbeck: Mhm.
Boyd: (inaudible)
Goldbeck: I guess I’m just wondering if that span …
Zack: You’re clearing two lanes of traffic here.
Julie Reith, TPZP: And we had surveyed that area of the … They also
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brought the diagrams from the meeting that Robert was referencing and it
talks about the current Mariposa.
Goldbeck: Thank you.
Boyd: Any changes to the height?
Ramirez: We would basically be able to … I don’t think there’s even a light
post. We should be in a good place in terms of maintaining the same height.
Boyd: Laura, is this going to maintain … ?
Ramirez: We will remember to address them…
Jeff Long, CNI: One of our core values is the preservation of signage. As
collected signs and projects like this have occurred and we maintain them,
our shop is a beautiful example of this sign, so a concept for us to be able to
work on something like this is … We’ve now learned that something like this
is … We want it to look exactly the same. It would be a new material in the
columns, but our goal is to make it look the same.
Boyd: Awesome.
Hatwig: One question, … is going to be inclusive in that as well?
Long: There is no goal at this point to do any restoration work.
Hatwig: Mhm.
Long: But yeah, the goal is to pick up the thing, take it and drop it, right as it
is right now. I think that ultimately the goal is that we are taking valuable
resources…
Boyd: Mhm, so I would assume that with restoration in the back of your
mind, that when we put it there, electrical and all of that stuff, it’s ready to be
essentially restored and there’s no major redo stuff.
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Ramirez: Again, and that aspect of it will be between City of Fresno and
High-Speed Rail Authority, since our mitigation did not factor that in.
Monte Kim, High-Speed Rail Authority: Just to add, when the treatment plan
for this gate was established with the Authority back in 2015 or so, one of
the things we wanted to stress was that the moving and relocation would
follow the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards. In this case, the design
integrity of the structure is maintained. So with these gates, the fluted
columns, the shape of the base, the height, all of those things were
considered as part of the mitigation, and so our intent was to maintain the
design as closely as possible to the existing form and the materials we
know that there have been improvements in, like concrete and metal.
According to the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards, you can use like
materials, so if there’s a type of concrete that is stronger than the type used
in the 20s when this was created, that would be acceptable, and likewise
with metal. The other thing that the treatment plan called for was that once
the gate was moved, that there would be another conditional assessment.
So there would be a pre-conditional assessment before the gate was moved
and another once it was moved.
Boyd: Excellent, thank you very much.
Kim: All we have are photos; we don’t have any structure-like drawings.
Boyd: Would that be a part of the process?
Long: All the dimensions have been taken already.
Boyd: Beautiful, thank you. I’d like to open it up to the general public, if
there are any comments.
No Additional Public Comment
Goldbeck: Seems it’s still in process but they’re well on their way to paying
attention to the details …
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Hatwig: Looking forward to the finalized version.
Groves van Onna: Is there any guidance?
Hatwig: I think it’s been documented, agreeing with Patrick, making sure
there’s a record.
Goldbeck: Seeing that dimensions are taken…
Boyd: Actual final product’s going to be…
Groves van Onna: So far, so good. They’ll be returning to discuss the
proposed replacement of the columns.
Boyd: Very good, thank you. Appreciate it.
Item Closed
C. ID20-00011 REVIEW AND ADOPT CITY’S CLG 2018-2019 ANNUAL
5 REPORT PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1606(b)(16).
Attachments: CLG 2018-2019 Annual Report.pdf
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna presented the City
of Fresno’s 2018-2019 Certified Local Government (CLG) Annual Report.
Goldbeck: I was surprised to read, Laura, that we surveyed like 350
properties.
Groves van Onna: So that was actually in regard to reviews…
Goldbeck: Oh, okay.
Groves van Onna: So just any review that I did…
Goldbeck: I figured it was …
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Groves van Onna: Hopefully impressive nonetheless.
Simmons, Boyd, Hatwig: (laugh and agree)
Zack: Very impressive.
Groves van Onna: Thank you.
Boyd: Excellent. Any comments from the general public? Additional
comments, Council?
No Public Comment
The City of Fresno’s CLG 2018-2019 Annual Report was adopted 4-0 on a
motion by Vice Chair Hatwig and a second by Commissioner Simmons.
D. ID20-00011 ADOPT 2020 HPC MEETING SCHEDULE.
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Attachments: 2020 HPC MEETING SCHEDULE CALENDAR
Historic Preservation Specialist Laura Groves van Onna presented the
proposed 2020 HPC Meeting Schedule.
Boyd: Thank you, good call. Jot it in your calendars now.
No Public Comment
The 2020 HPC Meeting Schedule was approved 4-0 on a motion by
Commissioner Goldbeck and a second by Chair Boyd.
VII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
1. None.
VIII. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
A. Members of the Commission
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1. California Preservation Foundation (CPF) Workshop
Commissioner Simmons announced that the California Preservation
Foundation is holding an advanced topics workshop on January 31 from 9 to
3 on F St. The topic is adaptive reuse of historic properties and affordable
housing and it is a reprise workshop that they did in San Francisco last
year. This is the first workshop that they will offer with simultaneous
translation in Spanish as well. Here in Fresno we hope that some elected
officials or at least representatives of elected officials will attend … will talk
about some best practices that are available. That workshop information is
available on the California Preservation Foundation. They’re using the
tagline, “Because you can’t build your way out of the affordable housing
crisis.”
Boyd: Perfect, especially with the conservation that’s going on now.
Simmons: And by the way, I chair the higher education commission of the
CPF and so we’re looking to involve college students …
Boyd: Oh boy, here we go. Anything else?
2. New Security Measures at City Hall
Vice Chair Hatwig called attention to the important notice Laura handed out.
Groves van Onna: Oh, that’s just for commission members. But yes, City
Hall is undergoing some improvements security wise.
Boyd: Okay, staff – unscheduled items?
B. Staff
1. Economic Incentive Programs
Staff informed the Commission that contracts for the eight participants in the
2019 Mills Act Program had been recorded with the County and that
$35,000.00 in reimbursement grant awards was still available through the
Historic Preservation Mitigation Program.
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Deputy City Attorney Rina Gonzales: I was just kind of going to mention
what Laura said, that there is money available, so yes anyone …
Boyd: Are we looking at having people apply or are we in combination with
actually choosing projects, or is it all application based?
Groves van Onna: So it’s application based, goes through me, and it’s a
reimbursement grant program. So, once people’s projects have received
initial approval… upon project completion, they can receive a maximum of
$7500 or 40% of project costs, whichever is less…
Boyd: So we couldn’t use it for sign restoration?
Zack: Right, and it’s not – there’s no competitive process …
Boyd: Right.
Zack: Anyone who’s applied and is eligible …
Boyd: (inaudible)
Zack: Yeah, Laura and I are looking at working at promotional
opportunities… Right now it’s just been word of mouth. I’m looking at ways
to reach out to those folks and make them aware.
Boyd: Any unscheduled items from the general public?
C. General Public
1. None.
IX. NEXT MEETING: January 27, 2020, 6 PM Conference Room A, City Hall.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Boyd adjourned the meeting at 6:52 PM.
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Respectfully submitted:
Laura Groves van Onna,
Historic Preservation Specialist
Harkiran Kaur, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, December 16, 2019
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
Fresno City Hall, Second Floor
Room 2165N (Conference Room A)
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair Patrick Boyd
Vice Chair Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD+C
Commissioners:
Robin Goldbeck; Paul Halajian, AIA; Ron McNary;
C. Kristina Roper, M.A.; Don Simmons, Ph.D.
Staff:
Daniel Zack, AICP Assistant Director; Laura van Onna, Historic Preservation
Specialist; Amber Piona, Planner II, Recording Secretary; John Hastrup,
Deputy City Attorney II
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The Historic Preservation Commission welcomes you to Room 2165, located in City Hall,
2nd Floor, 2600 Fresno Street, Fresno, California 93721.
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
II. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
A. ID20-000112 Approve Minutes for October 28, 2019.
III. APPROVE AGENDA
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. None.
V. CONTINUED MATTERS
A. None.
VI. COMMISSION ITEMS
A. ID20-000113 CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF REQUEST BY THE
PROPERTY OWNER TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL
THE DESIGNATION OF THE FOLLOWING PROPERTY TO THE
LOCAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC RESOURCES AND ADOPTION
OF FINDINGS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT RECOMMENDATION
PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1609:
1. The Ridge Electric Motor Company Building Located at 1235 G
Street.
Staff Recommendation: Approve and forward to the City
Council
B. ID20-000114 REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED RELOCATION
PLAN FOR THE VAN NESS ENTRANCE GATE (CR; FCL; HP
#082) LOCATED AT 2208 S VAN NESS AVENUE FROM THE
CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO FMC
12-1606(b)(6).
C. ID20-000115 REVIEW AND ADOPT CITY’S CLG 2018-2019 ANNUAL REPORT
PURSUANT TO FMC 12-1606(b)(16).
D. ID20-000116 ADOPT 2020 HPC MEETING SCHEDULE.
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VII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
VIII. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
A. Members of the Commission
B. Staff
C. General Public
IX. NEXT MEETING: January 27, 2019, 6 PM Conference Room A, City Hall.
X. ADJOURNMENT
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