Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingFresno, CA · July 24, 2023
Minutes
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Minutes - Final
Monday, July 24, 2023
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
In Person and/or Electronic
City Hall, Room 2165
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair - Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD
Vice Chair - James Sponsler
Commissioner - Christopher Rocha
Commissioner - Paul Halajian, AIA
Commissioner - Don Simmons, PhD. M.A.
Commissioner - Julie Federico M.A.
Commissioners - Elizabeth Laval
Staff:
Jennifer Clark, Director; Janice Monroe, M.A. II
Myrna Rivas, Administrative Clerk
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THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WELCOMES YOU TO ROOM
2165A, LOCATED IN CITY HALL, 2ND FLOOR, 2600 FRESNO STREET, FRESNO,
CALIFORNIA 93721.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION – Any interested person may appear at the public
hearing and present written testimony or speak in favor or against the matters
scheduled on the agenda. Public participation during Fresno City Historic
Preservation Commission meetings is always encouraged and can occur in one
of the two following ways:
1. Participate In Person: Room 2165, City Hall, 2nd Floor, 2600 Fresno Street,
Fresno, CA 93721
a. To speak during a Commission meeting in person: You may approach
the speaker podium upon the Chair’s call for public comment.
2. Participate Remotely via Zoom using the following link:
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_cAUGlBe2SYygn3isiCuy4w
a. The above link will allow you to register in advance for remote
participation in the meeting via the Zoom platform. After registering, you will
receive a confirmation email containing additional details about joining the
meeting.
b. To speak during a Commission meeting while attending remotely in the
Zoom application, click on the icon labeled “Participants” at the bottom of the
screen. Then select “Raise Hand” at the bottom of the Participants window. Your
digital hand will now be raised. You will be asked to “unmute” when your name
is called to speak. You will not be visible via video and there will be no
opportunity to share your screen.
All public speakers will have up to 3 minutes to address the Commission
pursuant to Rule No. 13 of the Historic Preservation Commission Bylaws of the
City of Fresno (available in the City Clerk’s Office).
VIEWING PLANNING MEETINGS (non-participatory) – For your convenience,
there are ways to view Historic Preservation Commission meetings live:
1. Community Media Access Collaborative website: https://cmac.tv/
2. Cable Television: Comcast Channel 96 and AT&T Channel 99
Should any of these viewing methods listed above experience technical
difficulties, the Commission meeting will continue uninterrupted. Commission
meetings will only be paused to address verifiable technical difficulties for all
users participating via Zoom or in the Chambers.
The City of Fresno’s goal is to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act
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(ADA). Anyone requiring reasonable ADA accommodations, including sign
language interpreters, or other reasonable accommodations such as language
translation, should contact the office of the City Clerk at (559) 621-7650 or
clerk@fresno.gov. To help ensure availability of these services, you are advised
to make your request a minimum of 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting.
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Hatwig called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m.
Also present: Jennifer Clark, Janice Monroe and Myrna Rivas.
Present 5 - Chair Jason Hatwig, Vice Chair James W Sponsler,
Commissioner Paul Halajian, Commissioner Julie Federico,
and Commissioner Elizabeth Laval
Absent 2 - Commissioner Christopher Rocha, and Commissioner Don
Simmons
II. PROCEDURES - PROCEDIMIENTOS - KEV SAB LAJ
6:02 P.M.
Chair Hatwig read aloud procedures.
III. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
III-A ID 23-1143 JUNE 26, 2023 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REGULAR
MEETING MINUTES.
6:03 P.M.
On motion of Vice Chair Sponsler, seconded by Commissioner
Laval,the above MINUTES were APPROVED. The motion carried by the
following vote:
Aye: 5 - Chair Hatwig, Vice Chair Sponsler, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Federico and Commissioner Laval
Absent: 2 - Commissioner Rocha and Commissioner Simmons
IV. APPROVE AGENDA
6:04 P.M.
On motion of Commissioner Halajian, seconded by Commissioner
Federico, that the Agenda be APPROVED. The motion carried by the
following vote:
Aye: 5 - Chair Hatwig, Vice Chair Sponsler, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Federico and Commissioner Laval
Absent: 2 - Commissioner Rocha and Commissioner Simmons
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
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N/A
VI. CONTINUED MATTERS
VI-A ID 23-1158 CONTINUED FROM JUNE 26, 2023
HEARING TO CONSIDER THE HISTORIC RESOURCE AMENDMENT
REMOVING GULLIVER’S SHIP FROM THE DESCRIPTION OF
STORYLAND PARK ON THE HISTORIC INVENTORY FORM (DPR
523A), PURSUANT TO FMC SECTION 12-1614, LOCATED AT
PARCEL 45002008T (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO 890 W
BELMONT AVE.)
6:05 P.M.
Director Clark introduced Susan Anderson, (Vice Chairman of the Storyland
Board) & CG Berg (Daniel's Woodland) who were present and available for
comments/questions. Anderson apologized to the Commission for removing
Gulliver's Travel's Ship without prior approval, explaining they were unaware
Commission approvals were needed. Anderson explained that the ship was
in disrepair and unsafe for use. She reported volunteer assistance in taking
the 70 year old ship down on advice from architect, Phil Mettler.
Anderson invited the Commission to visit the Park, talking about recent
improvements, such as newly installed story boxes and updated security.
She also invited them to attend a Board meeting to speak on the Historic
relevance of Storyland to Fresno.
Berg reported on the proposed plan for the new replacement exhibit, Paul's
Pirate Ship. He explained to the Commissioners that the proposal would use
a steel frame and rot resistant wood cladding. He went on by saying he
encouraged adding original remnants in the new design, noting that the old
ship's wood frame was splitting apart.
Laval asked if there were any remnants that are not related to the ship.
Anderson explained that the Jack 'n the Beanstalk attraction also
experienced significant degredation, with a result of removal, leaving very
little (frame only).
Halajian asked if photos were taken of the old ship prior to removal, but
Anderson admitted she was unaware of pictures of the original Gulliver's
Ship. Hatwig suggested the Storyland Board and Historic Preservation
Commission work together to create a 3D scan of everything that exists
there now. The Commission agreed on the benefits of creating an
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interpretive exhibit that includes digital recordings of the different attractions
for posterity, with a future interpretive pieced describing the history of the
exhibits, like Gulliver's Ship.
Federico asked Commissioners' thoughts about whether it was more
important to use the remnants of the old ship in the interpretative piece, or
use the pieces in the new ship. Sponsler stated that the remnants are not
historic, but are significant to the era that they come from.
Vice Chair Sponsler asked about the back story for Paul's Pirate Ship, and
Anderson explained the proposed ship will be promoted as a general pirate
ship, with no more reference to Gulliver's Travels.
No public comments were made.
Clark explained to Sponsler the necessary steps to add Storyland as a
historic resource if the Commission edits the DPR description at this
meeting.
Laval motioned to modify the inventory form by removing Gulliver's Travels
Ship, adding a tribute and/or interpretive display to commemorate the
importance of the Gulliver's Travels Ship at Storyland, using remaining parts.
The Commission also requested the applicant return with a plan to utilize
remaining remnants and or a plan to pay tribute to the original ship.
On motion of Commissioner Laval, seconded by Vice Chair Sponsler,
that the above Action Item be APPROVED. The motion carried by the
following vote:
Aye: 5 - Chair Hatwig, Vice Chair Sponsler, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Federico and Commissioner Laval
Absent: 2 - Commissioner Rocha and Commissioner Simmons
VI-B ID 23-1157 CONTINUED FROM JUNE 26, 2023
WORKSHOP ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT GUIDELINES
6:35 P.M.
Preston Her (Planner), Casey Lauderdale (Planner), and Michelle Zumwalt
(Architect) were present and introduced the City's five (5) pre-approved
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plans for Accessory Dwelling Units (ADU). Her explained that a secondary
unit is defined by having its own bath, kitchen and bedroom on same
property. LEAP Grant funds were used to hire the consulting architectural
firm that worked on the pre-approved plans. Lauderdale reported that the
State of California created this tool to alleviate the housing crises and that
the first pre-approved plan is in construction now.
Halajian asked about the degradation of existing landscapes and Staff
explained that the ADU must be allowed.
Hatwig referenced previous projects that have come before the Commission,
such as proposals in the rear of the home, replacing carriage houses that
burnt down, or a garage second floor. He added that the ADU has always
needed to be smaller than the original home.
Sponsler asked for clarification on windows and setback requirements for
homes in a historical landscape, such as Huntington Boulevard Historic
District. He also stated he wanted to understand if an attached unit added to
the front of the main house. Staff clarified that people can choose to change
the style so it matches, but that because sliding windows are in the plans,
the Commission's hands would be tied.
Zumwalt stated that the window styles of an ADU must match the historic
property that it is going on to. The Commission must be very explicit when
stating requirements, specifying if it must be wood, two (2") inch sash, etc.
Federico asked how old a house would have to be to recommend a
matching ADU. Lauderdale talked to the Commission about how a house
would have to be designated resource before they would recommend
matching styles. Even if the ADU doesn't match the main home, because of
state laws, she explained that the City has no objective design standards or
objective design guidelines. The Commission & staff agreed that the
guidelines should take influence from the primary home (or historic
resource).
Zumwalt answered questions from the Commission about people's ability to
go above and beyond the pre-approved design plan. She said that as long
as the home can support the structure, they can add an addendum to the
pre-approved plan.
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Sponsler suggested the Commission keep an eye on the Proposed Districts
that are waiting for designation, voicing concern that ADUs have already
been installed in those areas. He added that the City should formally
designate more Proposed Districts because he feared a point in time they
would be unable to designate those districts because of the ADU's.
Lauderdale stated she was looking forward to working with the Commission
on the language.
VII. COMMISSION ITEMS
VII-A ID 23-1026 WORKSHOP ON THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF HISTORIC
WINDOWS
7:17 P.M.
Chair Hatwig introduced Carolyn Searls to present the workshop. She
reported on the Historic Preservation considerations when repairing and
replacing windows, including Secretary of Interior Standards (focusing on
Standard 6's Standard for Rehabilitation). She provided an example of set
City Standards from San Francisco. She addressed how to assess existing
windows and various repair options she has had experience using (including
the different products used). Searls concluded her presentation with
replacement considerations, such as cost for maintenance and/or repair,
energy efficiency, and life cycle analysis.
The Commission thanked Searls for her thorough workshop and requested a
copy of her PowerPoint. They spoke about the importance of setting Historic
Preservation design guidelines.
Monroe confirmed an Architectural Review Subcommittee meeting would be
next step to continue the discussion on design standards similar to San
Francisco.
Laval expressed interest in the difference between Searls' reported data on
energy and weather in San Francisco compared to Fresno.
A member of the public pointed out that DPR/Inventory Forms (523A) are
good tools to list the details of a property for the record. Sponsler cited local
examples.
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VII-B ID 23-1147 UPDATE REGARDING PROPOSED NEW CAMPUS FOR THE
GOLDEN CHARTER ACADEMY, LOCATED AT 741 W BELMONT
AVE. (APN 45812117 & -19).
7:57 P.M.
Dan Zack introduced Karana Hatterson-Drayton (Consultant) she reported
on 741 W. Belmont (Parkside Auditorium) by purchased by the Golden
Charter Academy for construction on a new education facility. The building
was built in 1953, there are one and two story elements on the facade.
Historic research results in, the building is not historically significant the
"Late Discovery Clause" remains, which means that during demolition if any
artifacts appear, stop work immediately to research.
Hatterson-Drayton added that lead and asbestos need to be abated, and
that CEQA Demolotion Permits are administerial. All Demolition permits
must be reviewed by the Historic Preservation Commission.
Hatterson-Drayton concludes, that there is no evidence that building has
been altered, the former Parkside Auditorium is not eligible for Fresno's local
register of historic places.
VII-C ID 23-776 UPDATE ON REGULAR MONTHLY TOPICS:
1. STAFF UPDATES
2. ECONOMIC INCENTIVE UPDATES
3. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE
4. ABACUS SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE
5. NAMING SUBCOMMITTEE
6. PLAQUE SUBCOMMITTEE
8:15 P.M.
Clark left the meeting at 8:15 P.M.
Monroe reported on the Permits that have gone through the Historic
Preservation Department and the Architectural Review Subcommittee
meetings.
Rivas noted for the Economic Incentive Programs site visits are currently
being scheduled.
Sponsler and Monroe updated the Commission on the Abacus noting the
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installation and status of plaque.
Monroe reported that Hatterson-Drayton is working on the finalization of the
Dr. Earl Meyers & Maddie Meyers Building.
Sponsler reported that the cost of proposed plaques will depend on the
materials and processes used. He suggested looking in to Measure P to
help with costs.
VIII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
N/A
IX. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
8:20 P.M.
IX. - A. Members of the Commission
IX. - B. Staff
8:21 P.M.
Lauderdale reported that the next Tower District Specific plan update is
having a community workshop on August 26th at 11 - 1 at the Fresno City
College Cafeteria. Hatwig created a subcommittee of Federico and Rocha
to attend the workshop on behalf of the Commission.
IX. - C. General Public
8:25 P.M.
A member from the public commented on the helpful and informational
workshops that were held this evening and thanked the Commission, adding
more styles to the ADU catalogue and/or creating a catalogue just for
historic styles.
X. NEXT MEETING
8:26 P.M.
Next Historic Preservation Commission meeting is August 28, 2023.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
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Hatwig adjourned meeting at 8:27 P.M.
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Agenda
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, July 24, 2023
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
In Person and/or Electronic
City Hall, Room 2165
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair - Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD
Vice Chair - James Sponsler
Commissioner - Christopher Rocha
Commissioner - Paul Halajian, AIA
Commissioner - Don Simmons, PhD. M.A.
Commissioner - Julie Federico M.A.
Commissioners - Elizabeth Laval
Staff:
Jennifer Clark, Director; Janice Monroe, M.A. II
Myrna Rivas, Administrative Clerk
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THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WELCOMES YOU TO ROOM
2165A, LOCATED IN CITY HALL, 2ND FLOOR, 2600 FRESNO STREET, FRESNO,
CALIFORNIA 93721.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION – Any interested person may appear at the public
hearing and present written testimony or speak in favor or against the matters
scheduled on the agenda. Public participation during Fresno City Historic
Preservation Commission meetings is always encouraged and can occur in one
of the two following ways:
1. Participate In Person: Room 2165, City Hall, 2nd Floor, 2600 Fresno Street,
Fresno, CA 93721
a. To speak during a Commission meeting in person: You may approach
the speaker podium upon the Chair’s call for public comment.
2. Participate Remotely via Zoom using the following link:
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_cAUGlBe2SYygn3isiCuy4w
a. The above link will allow you to register in advance for remote
participation in the meeting via the Zoom platform. After registering, you will
receive a confirmation email containing additional details about joining the
meeting.
b. To speak during a Commission meeting while attending remotely in the
Zoom application, click on the icon labeled “Participants” at the bottom of the
screen. Then select “Raise Hand” at the bottom of the Participants window. Your
digital hand will now be raised. You will be asked to “unmute” when your name
is called to speak. You will not be visible via video and there will be no
opportunity to share your screen.
All public speakers will have up to 3 minutes to address the Commission
pursuant to Rule No. 13 of the Historic Preservation Commission Bylaws of the
City of Fresno (available in the City Clerk’s Office).
VIEWING PLANNING MEETINGS (non-participatory) – For your convenience,
there are ways to view Historic Preservation Commission meetings live:
1. Community Media Access Collaborative website: https://cmac.tv/
2. Cable Television: Comcast Channel 96 and AT&T Channel 99
Should any of these viewing methods listed above experience technical
difficulties, the Commission meeting will continue uninterrupted. Commission
meetings will only be paused to address verifiable technical difficulties for all
users participating via Zoom or in the Chambers.
The City of Fresno’s goal is to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act
(ADA). Anyone requiring reasonable ADA accommodations, including sign
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language interpreters, or other reasonable accommodations such as language
translation, should contact the office of the City Clerk at (559) 621-7650 or
clerk@fresno.gov. To help ensure availability of these services, you are advised
to make your request a minimum of 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting.
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
II. PROCEDURES - PROCEDIMIENTOS - KEV SAB LAJ
For each matter considered by the Commission, there will first be a staff
presentation, followed by a presentation from the project applicant. The
Commissioners will then have the opportunity to ask questions of Staff and
Applicant before opening to Public. Testimony from supporters of the project
will then be taken, followed by testimony from those in opposition. Staff may
provide a summation, if necessary. The applicant will have the right to a final
rebuttal presentation prior to closing the public hearing, followed by
consideration of the item and action, if any, by the Commission.
In accordance with section 13 of Article 2 of the Historic Preservation
Commission Bylaws governing length of public debate, all public testimony from
those in support and in opposition of the project will be limited to three minutes
per person. All public testimony must be presented to the Commission at the
podium (in person / electronically). Any testimony that references race, religion,
ethnicity, economic status, national origin, or any other classification protected
under state or federal law in a derogatory manner shall be deemed irrelevant and
will not be considered by the Commission in making its determinations.
If you challenge these matters in court, you may be limited to raising only those
issues you or someone else raised in oral or written testimony or before the
close of the hearing.
III. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
III-A ID 23-1143 JUNE 26, 2023 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - DRAFT HPC Meeting Minutes 06-26-23
IV. APPROVE AGENDA
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
VI. CONTINUED MATTERS
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VI-A ID 23-1158 CONTINUED FROM JUNE 26, 2023
HEARING TO CONSIDER THE HISTORIC RESOURCE
AMENDMENT REMOVING GULLIVER’S SHIP FROM THE
DESCRIPTION OF STORYLAND PARK ON THE HISTORIC
INVENTORY FORM (DPR 523A), PURSUANT TO FMC SECTION
12-1614, LOCATED AT PARCEL 45002008T (INCLUDING BUT
NOT LIMITED TO 890 W BELMONT AVE.)
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - Fresno Storyland Primary Record (DPR) Form 523A
Exhibit B - Gulliver’s Ship photo
Exhibit C - Proposed New Ship Renderings
Exhibit D - Fresno Municipal Code Findings
Exhibit E - Secretary of Interior’s Standards
Exhibit F - Storyland Map
Exhibit G - Further Documentation
VI-B ID 23-1157 CONTINUED FROM JUNE 26, 2023
WORKSHOP ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT GUIDELINES
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - ADU & Small Home Guidebook
Exhibit B - ADU Quick Start Brochure
Exhibit C - Presentation
Exhibit D - Map of ADUs in Historic Districts
VII. COMMISSION ITEMS
VII-A ID 23-1026 WORKSHOP ON THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF
HISTORIC WINDOWS
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - Window Workshop Summary & References
VII-B ID 23-1147 UPDATE REGARDING PROPOSED NEW CAMPUS FOR THE
GOLDEN CHARTER ACADEMY, LOCATED AT 741 W BELMONT
AVE. (APN 45812117 & -19).
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - Historic Eval 741 W Belmont Ave
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VII-C ID 23-776 UPDATE ON REGULAR MONTHLY TOPICS:
1. STAFF UPDATES
2. ECONOMIC INCENTIVE UPDATES
3. ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE
4. ABACUS SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE
5. NAMING SUBCOMMITTEE
6. PLAQUE SUBCOMMITTEE
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
VIII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
IX. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
IX. - A. Members of the Commission
IX. - B. Staff
IX. - C. General Public
X. NEXT MEETING
XI. ADJOURNMENT
2023 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE
JANUARY 23, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
FEBRUARY 27, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
MARCH 27, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
APRIL 24, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
MAY 23, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
JUNE 26, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
JULY 24, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
AUGUST 28, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
SEPTEMBER 25, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
OCTOBER 23, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
NOVEMBER 27, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
DECEMBER 18, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
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