Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingFresno, CA · November 27, 2023
Minutes
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Minutes - Final
Monday, November 27, 2023
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
In Person and/or Electronic
City Hall, Room 2165
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair - Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD
Vice Chair - James Sponsler
Commissioner - Paul Halajian, AIA
Commissioner - Don Simmons, PhD. M.A.
Commissioner - Julie Federico M.A
Commissioner - Elizabeth Laval
Commissioner - Sarah E. Johnston
Staff:
Jennifer Clark, Director; Lisha Chen, Historic Preservation Specialist;
Janice Monroe, M.A. II; Myrna Rivas, Administrative Clerk
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
6:00 P.M.
Chair Hatwig called meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
Also present were Director Jennifer Clark, Dr. Lisha Chen, Janice Monroe
and Myrna Rivas. Director Clark welcomed new Commissioner Sarah
Johnston.
Present 7 - Vice Chair James W Sponsler, Chair Jason Hatwig,
Commissioner Paul Halajian, Commissioner Don Simmons,
Commissioner Julie Federico, Commissioner Elizabeth Laval,
and Commissioner Sarah Johnston
II. PROCEDURES - PROCEDIMIENTOS - KEV SAB LAJ
6:02 P.M.
Chair Hatwig read the Procedures aloud.
III. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
N/A
IV. APPROVE AGENDA
6:05 P.M.
On motion of Commissioner Simmons, seconded by Commissioner
Halajian,the above Agenda was APPROVED. The motion carried by
the following vote:
Aye: 7 - Vice Chair Sponsler, Chair Hatwig, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Simmons, Commissioner Federico,
Commissioner Laval and Commissioner Johnston
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
V-A ID 23-1560 Consideration of the Fresno City Historic Preservation Commission
Meeting Schedule for Calendar Year 2024
6:05 P.M.
On motion of Vice Chair Sponsler, seconded by Commissioner Laval,
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Consent Item was APPROVED. The motion carried by the following
vote:
Aye: 7 - Vice Chair Sponsler, Chair Hatwig, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Simmons, Commissioner Federico,
Commissioner Laval and Commissioner Johnston
VI. CONTINUED MATTERS
VI-A ID 23-1634 CONTINUED FROM October 23, 2023
HEARING TO CONSIDER AND MAKE FINDINGS on the request to
remove the Dale Bros. Coffee Can Sign (HP#247), located at 1420-1432
H St.
Staff recommends that the Historic Preservation Commission (HPC) take
one of the following actions:
1. ADOPT a finding of Categorical Exemption pursuant to Sections
15331/Class 31 of the California Environmental Quality Act
guidelines.
2. APPROVE: Request to donate the Sign to the Fresno County
Historical Museum with the condition that the applicant develop a
preservation plan including but not limited to the relocation of the
resource, the restoration of the resource, and the ongoing
preservation of the resource along with the written approval of the
Fresno County Historical Museum for the placement of the resource.
Or:
2. DENY: Request to donate the Sign to the Fresno County Historical
Museum.
6:06 P.M.
Commissioners Halajian and Vice Chair Sponsler recused themselves.
No representative of the applicant was present for questions.
Clark made a brief presentation on the Dale Brothers Coffee Can sign and
the request for relocation by the property owners. Clark received a letter in
September asking for consultation for restoration of the sign. In October
another letter was received stating the owner would no longer be able to
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keep the sign, citing recommendation from insurance broker that it cannot
be insured in its current condition. The letter requested consideration of
donating the sign to the Historical County Historical Museum located at the
Fairgrounds.
Clark reminded the Commission that one of the four findings have to be met
to approve request.
Laval asked who will bear the cost of moving the resource. She wanted a
guarantee of funds available to move the resource.
No public comments.
Hatwig suggested sending City officials to inspect condition of the sign.
Federico commented that the sign once moved will lose its historic integrity.
Item was continued to December 18, 2023 with the condition that the
applicant develop a preservation plan, restoration plan, relocation plan and
ongoing preservation plan and written approval from the Fresno County
Historical Museum for placement of the resource. Item was continued to
December 18, 2023 with the condition that the applicant develop a
preservation plan.
On motion of Commissioner Simmons, seconded by Commissioner
Laval, that the above Action Item be CONTINUED. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Aye: 5 - Chair Hatwig, Commissioner Simmons, Commissioner
Federico, Commissioner Laval and Commissioner Johnston
Recused: 2 - Vice Chair Sponsler and Commissioner Halajian
VII. COMMISSION ITEMS
VII-A ID 23-1624 Hearing to consider and make findings on structural repairs necessary to
stabilize the masonry wall at the Roessler Winery (HP#29) applications
B23-02970 & AD23-04969 for the repair of masonry wall located at APN
49429107t (including but not limited to 1902 n winery).
6:26 P.M.
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Clark introduced the Roessler Winery repairs. The structural report created
by Ransom Brothers documented the current state of the property and
structural issues . The report suggested tying the building together with an
installation of interior skeleton system of strategically placed beams and
posts.
Summer Brooks was present with a team from the Parcs Department to
answer any questions or comments by the Commission or public. She
stated they were very excited about the bracing frame, and that they felt it
was integral in saving this property.
Halajian and Simmons asked if it was possible that the Architectural
Subcommittee work with the committee heading this project.
No public comments
On motion of Vice Chair Sponsler, seconded by Commissioner
Federico, that the above Action Item be APPROVED. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7 - Vice Chair Sponsler, Chair Hatwig, Commissioner Halajian,
Commissioner Simmons, Commissioner Federico,
Commissioner Laval and Commissioner Johnston
VII-B ID 23-1662 DISCUSSION ON HISTORIC PROPERTY DISCLOSURE OPTIONS.
6:39 P.M.
Clark and the Commission discussed creating a Historic Property
Disclosure for when historic properties are bought or sold in Fresno. Clark
said the City Manager's Office is fully supportive of this idea. Once there is
language, the amendment will go on the Fresno Municipal Code and add a
Historic Property Disclosure. Staff's goal is to bring this forward to the City
Council in January.
Clark suggested creating an ad hoc subcommittee that can work on creating
the language and submission to the City Council. Sponsler, Laval and
Federico volunteered on working together on this item. Sponsler explained
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that some forms aren't noticed at signing because of the volume of
paperwork that is being dealt with at a property's closing.
VII-C ID 23-1726 UPDATE REGARDING HISTORIC “G” SIGN LOCATED AT OLD
GUARANTEE BUILDING (HP#167), LOCATED AT 1177 FULTON MALL.
6:45 P.M.
Christine Miktarian was in attendance to give the Commission an update on
the G Sign. The State School Board approved the contract with Cen Cal to
remove the G sign on Saturday, December 9th. They are working on permits
with the City to get approval. She noted that the Fresno Fair is very
interested in taking the G sign upon removal.
She reported the design process with Darden architects and Fresno Neon.
She reported that she would be back next month with more information
There were no questions from the Commission.
VII-D ID 23-1725 UPDATE REGARDING THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE JOSE GARCIA
BREWER ADOBE BUILDING (HP#227) LOCATED AT 5901 W SHAW
6:47 P.M.
Clark gave a status update on the condition on the Jose Garcia Adobe
building. Last year the site was evaluated for use in a community building.
Main objective was to protect and preserve the building. The City covered
the building with a large tarp. Staff visited the site and took photos in
December 2021, there have been significant rainstorms since. Preservation
method is and should be required during the construction phase of this
project.
Clark asked Eric Frampton, (Licensed Engineer Manager) to show the
current status. Frampton noted that the construction fencing was removed
without notice and the lack of maintenance for the tarping is evident in the
pictures. If the roof element is continued to be open to the elements, he
said it will have a detrimental effect to the wall, and that if it is not protected
from the public, it could fall on whomever is walking by.
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Frampton reported that the southern elevation, eastern end of the wall
shows a significant amount of damage due to rain runoff to the part of the
roof that was damaged due to removing the carport roof (an un-permitted
project). The interior wall is degrading due to water, causing significant
damage (likely fall inwards or outwards), therefore it is imperative that the
roof and walls be protected with the tarp and construction fence.
Clark was working with Code Enforcement and this building is part of a
Planning entitlement. She added, the property owner and the architectural
subcommittee should meet and resolve these issues.
The Commissioners had a long discussion with Frampton. They discussed
a new tarp and the liability to the property owner for not having it fenced off.
They would like to have the owner come forward and voice their intentions.
They are glad Staff now includes a Historic Preservationist that can stay on
top issues like this.
Hatwig requested monthly reporting to stay on top of these buildings.
VII-E ID 23-1613 UPDATE ON REGULAR MONTHLY TOPICS:
1. Staff Updates
2. Architectural Review Subcommittee Update
3. Economic Incentive Subcommittee Update
4. Plaque & Naming Subcommittee Update
7:17 P.M.
Clark reintroduced Lisha Chen.
Currently Staff is finalizing Mills Act Contracts. They will come to the
Commission for approval in December's meeting and be Recorded at the
Assessors office.
Clark reported the CLG report for year 22/23, a lot happened in the years
post COVID and they are excited to be reporting, lots of training and some
new designations.
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Monroe reported that the Abacus is completed. She showed pictures of the
plaque installed but noted the landscaping was outside the scope of work.
The Architectural Subcommittee reported 2 fence replacements. They
decided the demolition should come before the Commission for vote.
Halajian the signage for Hardy's Theatre and he commends them on a great
job. The LED rope lighting mimics the illumination down to the color, very
good work.
Laval asked the Commission if there were any other properties that are in
bad shape that should be looked at. She would like to know if there are
contractors around that can recreate historic articles and details of a
different time. She suggested creating a list of resources to help our
property owners.
VIII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
7:28 P.M.
N/A
IX. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
IX. - A. Members of the Commission
7:28 P.M.
Hatwig reported that they have lost a huge supporter of the Historic
Community. Roger Taylor passed away recently.
IX. - B. Staff
N/A
IX. - C. General Public
7:30 P.M.
A person from the public would like to bring attention to the Roeding Log
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Cabin. They emphasized the need to preserve the cabin in case it is to be
moved. They also voiced concern it is structurally sound. They announced
a future tour. Jan Chafee will attend and hoping to speak on this item at the
Comission's January meeting.
X. NEXT MEETING
7:36 P.M.
Next meeting will be Monday December, 18th.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hatwig adjourned meeting at 7:37 P.M.
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Agenda
City of Fresno
City Hall
2600 Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93721
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, November 27, 2023
6:00 PM
Regular Meeting
In Person and/or Electronic
City Hall, Room 2165
Historic Preservation Commission
Chair - Jason Hatwig, LEED, AP, BD
Vice Chair - James Sponsler
Commissioner - Paul Halajian, AIA
Commissioner - Don Simmons, PhD. M.A.
Commissioner - Julie Federico M.A.
Commissioner - Elizabeth Laval
Commissioner - Sarah E. Johnston
Staff:
Jennifer Clark, Director; Lisha Chen, Historic Preservation Specialist;
Janice Monroe, M.A. II; Myrna Rivas, Administrative Clerk
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I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
II. PROCEDURES - PROCEDIMIENTOS - KEV SAB LAJ
For each matter considered by the Commission, there will first be a staff
presentation, followed by a presentation from the project applicant. The
Commissioners will then have the opportunity to ask questions of Staff and
Applicant before opening to Public. Testimony from supporters of the project will
then be taken, followed by testimony from those in opposition. Staff may provide a
summation, if necessary. The applicant will have the right to a final rebuttal
presentation prior to closing the public hearing, followed by consideration of the
item and action, if any, by the Commission.
In accordance with section 13 of Article 2 of the Historic Preservation Commission
Bylaws governing length of public debate, all public testimony from those in support
and in opposition of the project will be limited to three minutes per person. All public
testimony must be presented to the Commission at the podium (in person /
electronically). Any testimony that references race, religion, ethnicity, economic
status, national origin, or any other classification protected under state or federal
law in a derogatory manner shall be deemed irrelevant and will not be considered by
the Commission in making its determinations.
If you challenge these matters in court, you may be limited to raising only those
issues you or someone else raised in oral or written testimony or before the close of
the hearing.
III. APPROVE MEETING MINUTES
IV. APPROVE AGENDA
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
V-A ID 23-1560 Consideration of the Fresno City Historic Preservation Commission
Meeting Schedule for Calendar Year 2024
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - 2024 HPC Meeting Schedule
VI. CONTINUED MATTERS
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VI-A ID 23-1634 CONTINUED FROM October 23, 2023
HEARING TO CONSIDER AND MAKE FINDINGS on the request to
remove the Dale Bros. Coffee Can Sign (HP#247), located at
1420-1432 H St.
Staff recommends that the Historic Preservation Commission (HPC)
take one of the following actions:
1. ADOPT a finding of Categorical Exemption pursuant to
Sections 15331/Class 31 of the California Environmental
Quality Act guidelines.
2. APPROVE: Request to donate the Sign to the Fresno County
Historical Museum with the condition that the applicant develop
a preservation plan including but not limited to the relocation of
the resource, the restoration of the resource, and the ongoing
preservation of the resource along with the written approval of
the Fresno County Historical Museum for the placement of the
resource.
Or:
2. DENY: Request to donate the Sign to the Fresno County
Historical Museum.
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - DPR Form - HP# 247 (Dale Brothers Coffee Can Sign)
Exhibit B - DPR Form - HP# 248 (Benham Ice Cream Co. / Dale Brothers Coffe
Exhibit C - The Preservation of Historic Signs
Exhibit E - Letters from Applicant
Exhibit D - Public Hearing Notice & Noticing Map
Exhibit F - Secretary of Interior Standards
Exhibit G - Fresno Municipal Code Findings
VII. COMMISSION ITEMS
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VII-A ID 23-1624 Hearing to consider and make findings on structural repairs necessary
to stabilize the masonry wall at the Roessler Winery (HP#29)
applications B23-02970 & AD23-04969 for the repair of masonry wall
located at APN 49429107t (including but not limited to 1902 n winery).
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - DPR Form (1902 N Winery)
Exhibit B - Structural Report [10-26-23]
Exhibit C - Preservation of Historic Adobe Buildings
Exhibit D - Notice of Public Hearing
Exhibit E - Secretary of Interior’s Standards
Exhibit F - Fresno Municipal Code Findings
VII-B ID 23-1662 DISCUSSION ON HISTORIC PROPERTY DISCLOSURE OPTIONS.
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
VII-C ID 23-1726 UPDATE REGARDING HISTORIC “G” SIGN LOCATED AT OLD
GUARANTEE BUILDING (HP#167), LOCATED AT 1177 FULTON
MALL.
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
VII-D ID 23-1725 UPDATE REGARDING THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE JOSE
GARCIA BREWER ADOBE BUILDING (HP#227) LOCATED AT 5901
W SHAW
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
Attachments: Exhibit A - DPR Form (HP# 227) Jose Garcia Brewer Adobe
Exhibit B - Site Visit Photos [11.22.23]
VII-E ID 23-1613 UPDATE ON REGULAR MONTHLY TOPICS:
1. Staff Updates
2. Architectural Review Subcommittee Update
3. Economic Incentive Subcommittee Update
4. Plaque & Naming Subcommittee Update
Sponsors: Planning and Development Department
VIII. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
IX. UNSCHEDULED ITEMS
IX. - A. Members of the Commission
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IX. - B. Staff
IX. - C. General Public
X. NEXT MEETING
XI. ADJOURNMENT
2023 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE
NOVEMBER 27, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
DECEMBER 18, 2023- 6:00 P.M. MEETING
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