City Council - Special
Special MeetingGahanna, OH · January 14, 2019
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
City Council - Special
Brian Metzbower, President
Stephen A. Renner, Vice President
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Nancy R. McGregor
Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Monday, January 14, 2019 6:30 PM City Hall, Council Chambers
A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER - Roll Call.
Gahanna City Council met in Special Session on Monday, January 14,
2019, in Council Chambers of City Hall, 200 South Hamilton Road,
Gahanna, Ohio. President of Council, Brian Metzbower, called the
meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Agenda for this meeting was published on
January, 11 2019.
Present 7 - Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer,
Nancy R. McGregor, Brian Metzbower, and Karen J. Angelou
B. PUBLIC HEARING -
ORD-0116-2018 TO AMEND SECTION 161.081, CREDIT FOR TAX PAID TO ANOTHER
MUNICIPALITY, OF CHAPTER 161, INCOME TAX, OF THE CODIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA
President Metzbower opened the Public Hearing at 6:30p.m.; read the title;
reminded this is for the tax credit.
Dave Whorten, 1135 Northwood Circle, Harrison Pond, for the tax credit; if the
levy passed with 100% credit would benefit him; read the parks cuts and caution
them as much as possible; arts and recreation; will impact all the residents in the
community.
Beryl Piccolantonio, 963 Riva Ridge Blvd, stated that she didn’t want to time away
from other speakers; not here in capacity as school board member; she realizes it
may be perceived that way and has not spoken for that reason; decided to speak
tonight; doesn’t want to regret not speaking at a later date; they do not have
family or work ties here; but chose to buy a house and raise their kids; both her
and husband will be impacted by paying more; happy to contribute, but she has
concerns about real dollars for others or are less fortunate; she didn’t realize this
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was a possibility and it wasn’t communicated to voters; voters were not
presented with a possibility of these cuts if the issue didn’t passed; didn’t hear
that it was only to maintain services; roads were something that has to be done;
yet to talk to a resident who understands; some of the parks & rec programs was
why they chose to stay there; Gahanna camps has had a positive impact on her
boys; new experiences and new friends for kids and her husband; her plea if you
truly believe make the case to the voters so it is clear to the voters; she
understands the burden of that plea and it is hard request.
EF Bailey, 647 Churchill Dr., thanked everyone for caring enough to come out on a
winter’s night; his late wife passed they could have moved anywhere, but
wanted to stay here; Gahanna is a wonderful community; urge Council to look
deeply what is proposed now; enjoys living here and wants to stay.
Elizabeth Champlin, 782 McDonald Dr.; she is a Girl Scout; she heard about the
parks closing and Zach in particular because he helped her troop; keep the goal to
have natural parks; without that help they couldn’t do the stuff she does now;
she rides her bike every day in the parks; Angelou said that she was at that
opening for Woodside Green; agrees with Elizabeth how important these parks
are.
Victoria Nye, 266 Cliffview Dr; concerned with cuts with parks & rec dept;
opportunities provided to her and her team will be taken away; if they were to
cut pools for kids at 15; they will not have alternate places to work; have to be
certified to be a lifeguard; that helped her choose her career at Otterbein as
athletics; she doesn’t understand the nickels and dimes behind the scenes; she
does know that the children in the community need to be invested in long term;
taking away opportunities in the community for life long skills isn’t good; she
feels that is what needs to get shaped into adults in the future.
Maddy Myer, grew up going to the pool at 3 yrs old; she learned to swim; her
lifelong friends go there; this is 4th summer worked at the pool; the pools have
helped her grow over the years; she’s nervous now but would have never got up
to speak if she didn’t have that experience; have 3 yr. old niece but doesn’t like
outdoors and would rather use iPad; thinks should the parks be gone everyone
will turn to electronics and get outside.
Noelle Dennison, 339 Denison Ave; employee at the pools; was born in Gahanna;
lived all 18 yrs of her life her; brought to the pool by her mom; at the pools every
day; even when off work she’d go with her family; taught her how to make
friends; she would reach out to people who needed a friend; Gahanna taught her
what a sense of community is; she sees staying here the rest of her life; she
wants her children to be raised here if the parks and rec stay; kids need the
pools; they are not on electronics but making friends; the pools and staff provide
lessons in a safe community; if they don’t have that guidance they could be
wreaking havoc in the community; if the pools and parks & rec were not giving
the same importance as roads won’t be a strong community.
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Betty Hersch, 919 Ridenour Rd; she was not aware of the ballot issue that was in
place; she has two issues one of them pertains to physical health; been taking an
exercise class at senior center and hasn’t fell since; and it gives members of the
senior center opportunity to get out of the house; she’s a meals on wheels
drivers; you might be the only person those individuals see during the day;
encourage support of the senior center.
Harvey McCleskey, 160 Wallcreek Dr. W; here two capacities; the parks & rec
bring in 90 teams for the sports tournaments; those teams are from 75
communities; opposed to cuts; personal comments lived in community for 12 yrs;
he wasn’t aware that cuts were going to happen; he’d rather his money be spent
here not elsewhere; there will be an outcry if the pools are closed.
Jim Eley, 142 Shaw Ave, resident 22 yrs; two sons came through Gahanna schools;
thankful for what we have here; love parks system; happy with all the perks with
being a member of this community; he learned a lot from coming to the
meetings; he doesn’t envy their jobs; spoke at other groups in similar situations;
different decision to make; that would greatly impact the community; move to
the ballot again and get the word out.
Cathy Sprouse, from Reynoldsburg but is member of senior center; she read a
statement called a no fault clause; raise fees to $100 a year; on night and
weekends have other activities; apply for grants for roads; get sponsors for
fireworks; 10% cuts across the board; freeze all raises and job hiring for 2 years;
by closing our senior center that also that have lunches for teens and children;
senior center provides interaction in the community; if children are supposed to
lead the way why are you closing out the most knowledgeable; the needs of the
many out way the need of the few.
Joe Tanner, 1027 Norway Dr, Columbus; his mother is a resident; the senior
center is remarkable; has some seniors here which can be a challenge to get out;
not fair to have to advocate for themselves to come participate; not well
connected in social media to get the word out; some seniors don’t get this
information; senior center increases the values of our seniors; Patrick does a
good job; nobody likes to face cuts; not everybody will be happy; keep that in
mind when making cuts to the Sr. Center.
Lee Tucker, 805 Nob Hill Dr. W, Parks & Rec Foundation Chair, we really support
parks & rec; he thinks they needed to put levy back on; it was not communicated
well; very important for the parks & rec to be kept going; kids, scouts, athletics;
he lives on one of the streets for Detroit; he said he could deal with it for another
year or two to keep parks open; Creekside events, Hops & Vines are several
events they help with; without Zach these events would not have happened;
retrospect there are a lot of good people; get suggestions back to help get
community where it needs to be; get another plan.
Tim McClurg, 935 Leaflock Ct; having a new elementary school built across the
street has helped their property values increase; all for the levy; third meeting
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he’s attended about this topic; voted for other two levies; friends with former
Mayor Stinchcomb; his kids have enjoyed soccer in the parks; he is a referee for
soccer; his kids used to go to the pools; enjoyed having fun with friends; he
wouldn’t mind paying $50 a year to give free memberships; he works in
Columbus; he is for the 100% tax credit; he was unhappy to see it lost; take away
credit to 50% and put ballot initiative in May to pass 2.5% increase; if it doesn’t
get passed then give 100%; willing to pay more until levy passes.
Kristina Caswell, 337 Westerville Dr.; children are our future; studied school
shooters two of the main things relative was coping skills and confidence; camps
and pools help guide these kids and give direction; parents can’t always be
around; it takes a village to raise children; taking away these events the safely
will be taken away, too; this will not be a safe community if the children have
nothing to do.
Edie Hall, 83 Knobhill Dr. N; been resident of Gahanna for 45 yrs; husband retired
from Air Force; this is the place for them to live; from day one they wanted to
make it better; her project is the senior center and she’s been a member for 35
yrs; she’s in her 90s; every time the budget gets sparse the senior center gets
cuts; there is not more room for dances, etc.; aging population in Gahanna is
getting bigger; need bigger building, not less; every day is taking up with other
programs; her days are numbered; she wants to speak for younger seniors;
money is tight; please don’t cut the senior center.
Lew Griffin, Creekside business owner; thanked everyone for what they do;
people don’t realize the amount of time that they put in; he understands what
they put in and appreciates them; preaching to the community needs to be
stated; not everyone is going to be pleased; need to respect others and not try to
put people down, especially now in this stress; he trusts them as leaders; have
fiduciary responsibility to this community; have to do with safety, services and
welfare; easy out having .5 credit doesn’t hurt; hold off and give community a
chance to credit it; if he has to do .5 and have responsibility to do something, he
will; also keep this City financially sound; schools had to do this but he
understands there could be better timing; if the City can’t get it on the ballot and
get it passed; then go to zero; whether by necessity or by vote; McClurg is saying
same type of thing; you have to make hard decisions; lived here for 27 years;
work together as a team; we will be the best community in central Ohio.
Schnetzer said he was worked extremely hard to get the message out there and
see the levy across the finish line; he estimated he knocked over 1,000 doors;
spoke to at least 200 or 300 people; it was challenging, but he did it because it’s
important; if it didn’t pass a lot of people would get hurt; comprised time with
family during a difficult time to advance this levy; he met a lot of great people
that encouraged him; tonight a lot of people are here speaking about the very
reason he was trying to see this levy pass; he the last ten weeks have heard from
several residents; recalls only two people that recommended cuts; numbering
speaking about that is something important to them; if we go back the ballot;
he’s one of seven; if, which is a big if, we go back to the ballot he asked the
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patrons how many people would join him knocking doors, posting yard signs,
raising funds, contributing funds, pushing back on some naysayers on social
media that are trying to divide this community for no reason other than political
gain; he doesn’t know if he has it in him to do it again, but he sure can’t do it
alone; he thinks we can finally come together as a community and do this
together [standing ovation; almost everyone raised their hand in support of
helping].
Metzbower thanked Mike for his efforts; he’s selfless and it’s truly an honor to
serve with him. Thanked everyone for their comments. Asked if anyone else
wanted to speak. One last speaker.
Richard Tads, 462 Hamilton Ct; he works in Columbus; both him and wife work
there; he voted for levy; it was very close; he’s a member of the senior center
and utilizes it quite frequently; he thinks this is drastic measure reducing the
credit; he’d like to see it go back on the ballot with some changes; should be tax
payers who make this decision; didn’t realize impact; try to get it passed again
and encourage to change the last version; the difference that can be assessed
would be a substantially greater amount proposed.
President Metzbower closed the Public Hearing at 7:40 p.m.
C. MOTION RESOLUTION -
MR-0001-2019 TO PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE AND ESTABLISH THE SCHEDULE
FOR LEGISLATIVE STEPS REQUIRED FOR THE AMENDMENT OF
SECTION 161.081, CREDIT FOR TAX PAID TO ANOTHER
MUNICIPALITY, OF CHAPTER 161, INCOME TAX, OF THE CODIIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA (ORD-0116-2018), AS
FOLLOWS:
JANUARY 2, 2019 (7 pm) - REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING,
INTRODUCTION
JANUARY 7, 2019 (6:30 pm) - SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, FIRST
PUBLIC HEARING
JANUARY 14, 2019 (6:30 pm) - SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING;
SECOND PUBLIC HEARING; COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE;
DISCUSSION OF ORDINANCE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING
JANUARY 22, 2019 (Tuesday, 7 pm) - REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING;
THIRD PUBLIC HEARING
MARCH 25, 2019 (6:30 pm) - SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING; SECOND
READING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE (AT LEAST 60
DAYS PRIOR TO ANY AMENDMENT TO SECTION 161.081,
REQUIRED BY CITY CODE)
After discussion on the matter, it was determined the schedule didn't
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need to part of the legislative process and failed for a lack of second.
D. EXECUTIVE SESSION - to go into Executive Session under authority of
Section 5.40(a) of the Council Rules of Procedure to consider the
appointment, employment, dismissal, discipline, promotion, demotion, or
compensation of a public employee or official, or the investigation of charges
or complaints against a public employee, official, licensee, or regulated
individual, unless the public employee, official, licensee, or regulated
individual requests a public hearing.
Angelou asked Council if they had an idea of how long the session would
last due to the amount of people in attendance for the committee
meetings; Larick stated they'd check back with everyone after 20
minutes; and communicate if that needs to change.
A motion was made by Larick, seconded by Schnetzer, to go into Executive
Session under authority of Section 5.40(a) of the Council Rules of Procedure to
consider the appointment, employment, dismissal, discipline, promotion,
demotion, or compensation of a public employee or official, or the
investigation of charges or complaints against a public employee, official,
licensee, or regulated individual, unless the public employee, official,
licensee, or regulated individual requests a public hearing. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Yes: Larick, Leeseberg, Renner, Schnetzer, McGregor, Metzbower and
Angelou
President Metzbower requested Council attend the Executive Session in
Council Conference Room. Council rose to Executive Session at 7:47 p.m.
Council recessed from Executive Session at 8:36 p.m. with no action taken.
A motion was made by Larick, seconded by Leeseberg, to reconvene
Executive Session. The motion carried by the following vote:
Council rose to Executive Session at 9:36 p.m. Council rose to report from
Executive Session at 10:54 p.m. with no action taken.
Yes: 7- Larick, Leeseberg, Renner, Schnetzer, McGregor, Metzbower and Angelou
E. ADJOURNMENT.
by Renner at 10:54 p.m.
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