Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · June 9, 2014
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Thomas R. Kneeland, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, June 9, 2014 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
ROLL CALL:
Present 7 - Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg,
Michael Schnetzer, Karen J. Angelou, and Stephen A. Renner
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES:
City Attorney Ewald, Karl Wetherholt, Dottie Franey, Jennifer Teal,
Chief Murphy, Tony Collins, Laurie Jadwin (CVB), Rory Gaydos, Niel
Jurist, Sue Wadley, General Williams, Anthony Jones, Clerk
McWilliams, Jim Perry, residents.
VISITORS -
1. Laurie Jadwin, Convention & Visitors Bureau, Creekside Blues & Jazz
Festival - Volunteer Information
Jadwin thanked Council for allotting her this time; we are 11 days from
Creekside Jazz & Blues Festival; many have volunteered at admission
gates; city stakeholders have been asked to work as directors on duty;
you will be ambassadors for the festival and the city; oversee
volunteers at those points; the festival is all staffed by non-profit
organizations; thank them for their help and support; you will be
staffed with a radio; you are the point of contact for that gate; there will
be staff all around; you will oversee with cash handling; festival has 3
main admission points: North Mill, South Mill and High Street; call on
radio to get a visit when cash box is getting full; each booth gets a
binder for all information; each day has a different colored wrist band;
admission has gone up; it is $5; raised one dollar; there are dollar- off
coupons at AAA; military get in for free; both active and retired and
their immediate family (spouse/significant other and children); Sunday
anyone bringing a non-perishable gets in free; that gets donated to
Mid-Ohio Foodbank; GRIN did not have space when this first began;
have a relationship with Mid-Ohio Foodbank; everyone coming
through an admission gate will pay; there is a refund process; if they
come back to Convention and Visitors' Bureau office through end of
June with receipt and wristband, people can get a refund; each 3
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gates will be equipped with 3 iPads; 2 for processing credit cards; one
will be collecting visitor information; we will collect zip codes to see
where people have traveled from; no coolers allowed; no pets unless it
is an identified service dog; please arrive 15 minutes early for
check-in; volunteer headquarters is at the Sanctuary; will have t-shirt
and lanyard; parking for the Saturday evening shift will be challenging;
do have shuttles; aqua team will come around with water; have a relief
crew; if you have a lost child, keep child with you and call dispatch;
they will come to you; first aid is on premises at Mill Street and Walnut
Street; Mifflin Township Fire Department will be there; the lost and
found will be at volunteer headquarters; in case of emergency
weather, we do have a line of authority for that; part of your job is to
greet and part is to make sure no one walks out carrying an alcoholic
beverage; there will be trash cans by the exit; safety of attendees is of
utmost importance to us. Jadwin left packets of information including
schedule and vendor/business listing and map. Larick thanked Jadwin
and team for putting the festival together.
ITEM-From Clerk of Council
2014-0059 Liquor Permit-Big Daddy’s
1. Liquor Permit - Big Daddy's
McWilliams asked for a motion resolution that the City has no
objections to a liquor permit transfer from Big Daddy's to RHF Group,
LLC; Police Division has no objections.
RECOMMENDATION: Motion Resolution, Consent Agenda.
ITEM-From City Engineer
2014-0060 Service and Engineering Supporting Docs
1. Hamilton Road Central Presentation
Wetherholt gave Hamilton Road Central project update; there is a
slight update to last year's handout for this; displayed the south end of
Hamilton Road project; the scroll displayed shows the project in its
entirety; basically this project has been worked on since 1996 when
county engineer first proposed this to us; got north half of Hamilton
Road from Morse Road through U.S. 62 back in 2007; southern
portion had some public involvement; looking for funding; cost is over
$10 million; we secured Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission
(MORPC) attributable funds to build this; first phase past design is all
local; right of way acquisition started this spring; about halfway
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finished; expect to have right of way finished by end of summer; next
portion is utility movement; even have our own water line there that
needs improved; this widens the road to 5 lanes; puts roundabout in at
Clark State Road; Carpenter Road gets relocated; puts in roundabout
at Northeast School; provides an opportunity for future development
on the west side; plan calls for a mutli-use path on west side, sidewalk
all along east side; will tie in southern half of City with northern half;
has street lighting and landscaping; landscaping needed to make
proper view on roundabout; proceeding up Hamilton Road, it puts
sidewalks up to Peace Lutheran Church's driveway; islands provide
refuge and pedestrians are able to get across; roundabouts that have
been installed in conjunction with pedestrians work better than you
think they would; especially if pedestrian traffic gets worse than
predicted; believe this will work and work better than what we have
now; Carpenter Road is a very tough place to get out of now; difficult
to turn left; we will move Carpenter Road north so that it lines up with
this splitter island; regarding Joe Worman's hill, his driveway will be
part of the roundabout; north of Worman Drive, there will be a break in
the median where people can get out of driveways and go the other
direction; Reynoldsburg/New Albany roundabout is an example of that;
where the new retention pond is, it is large enough to service this
section of Hamilton Road as well as future development; northern
roundabout has a couple different purposes; it will be a traffic calming
device; approach speed is 20 mph due to curves; will provide better
access to busses; Northeast School needs to have busses on right
side load; roundabout allows them to get there, load and get out;
parking lot still has normal access with a five-lane roadway; will be a
2-season construction; will begin in July 2015; utilities need to be
relocated; we are intending to apply for an Ohio Public Works
Commission (OPWC) grant to fill in local match which is 20% of total
cost; that is split almost equally between County and City; most of cost
will be what we already have appropriated if we get that grant; project
will go into 2016 and will probably finish up in fall of 2016; the culvert
will be replaced; will require 2-3 weeks of road closure; will have to
endure that; will occur in early portion of 2016; the road is built half
width; precisely the way Hamilton Road North was built; did Granville
Street that way as well; regarding the construction management, the
County has the capacity to be the managers and inspectors; they want
to take that on as part of their monetary contribution for local match;
they were the construction managers on Hamilton Road North; we had
the usual amount of issues with that as we would if it were an ODOT
managed project; that is the other alternative; feel comfortable that we
have a good relationship with County; their chief construction manager
was one of our interns years ago. Angelou asked about issues down
by Carpenter, north of there; the driveways. Wetherholt said the
resolution to that is we are rebuilding driveways up to garages in many
instances. Leeseberg asked about multi-use path and parking in
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driveways; will there be enough room so we don't have cars parked on
the path. Wetherholt said yes but that could be a problem near
Worman. Kneeland asked about the material for the mutli-use path.
Wetherholt answered asphalt. Kneeland asked about maintenance
life. Collins said we've had some minor maintenance on one in north
section; that one is 6+ years old; we seal it. Kneeland asked about
maintenance dollars. Collins said 10 years for routine maintenance
costs; we come back and slurry seal the multi-use paths; they are
essentially light duty roads; same pattern as those. Kneeland asked
about kick-off for construction. Wetherholt said July 2015. Larick
asked about elevation of the road. Wetherholt said there are different
places where different things happen; Worman stays the same; if you
go east, it cuts into hill but to the west, it's a fill; road is very narrow
now. Larick asked about steep ingress/egress for properties.
Wetherholt said the driveways on east side go all the way up to
garages; that is to make the grade match; reasonable grades. Larick
asked about crosswalks and crossings; for visually impaired
individuals, what options might there be to accommodate them.
Wetherholt said there is no hawk signal. Schnetzer asked about road
closures for culvert. Wetherholt said not for very long but there will be
points in time where you can't get through; will be timed to minimize
time of closures. Larick went back to crosswalk options. Wetherholt
said there is a signal at Granville, U.S. 62 and Gatsby's.
ITEM-From Director of Public Service
1. 2015 Refuse Contract
Franey gave an update about a transformer fire; a transformer on a
wooden pole on the east side of Hamilton Road/U.S. 62 intersection
caught fire and burned the wooden pole; weakened it enough that it
fell on our mast arm and destroyed the entire cabinet and sent such a
surge that it damaged signals along Granville, Hamilton and the
Beecher Road/Hamilton Road cabinet; have a rental at Beecher
Road/Hamilton Road; at U.S. 62 we have a cabinet that was intended
for Clark Hall where McDonald's used to be; will now be waiting on 2
traffic cabinets.
Franey began with the refuse bid; we are part of a consortium; Solid
Waste Authority of Central Ohio's (SWACO) mission is to manage the
District municipal solid waste stream to achieve environmentally
responsible and cost-effective disposal, treat solid waste as a
resource capable of yielding recovered materials and energy, reduce
reliance on landfilling, and plan future disposal capacity for the District;
we work closely with SWACO and they support our consortium; went
out for 3 kinds of bids: 1. Status Quo: same days, unlimited solid
waste weekly, 2. Automated, and 3. Contractor Designed; Rumpke
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was the only contractor to offer a savings; Status Quo bid would give a
cost difference of -$29.40 over three year program; City is messy on
trash day; does not give any incentive to change residents' habits;
some residents pay for wheeled containers; they pay on top of
monthly fee; Rumpke also gave an Automated price; all pick-ups
would be on same day; worst case, pickup would be Friday; trying to
get it to Wednesday; would pay 60 cents more over 5 years; everyone
would get a 96 gallon recycling container and get a 96 gallon waste
container; that is the equivalent of 3 trash cans; resident can opt for a
smaller container that would be the equivalent of 2 cans; would save
almost $60 over the period; if they went to the even smaller container,
could save about $92.40 over the contract; still offer senior discount;
with Contractor Designed, Rumpke would offer a rebate to City with
increased recycling percentage; Gahanna would probably benefit most
from this kind of program; does set up that template and change the
culture where you begin to look at some trash as an asset,
encourages people to recycle; SWACO would like to have that
happen; reduce amount of trash going to landfill; encourage recycling;
Rumpke went one step further; this one you save significantly more
money but recycling only picked up every other week; not something
most communities were in favor of; these sized cans do fit as
evidenced by a photo inside Franey's personal garage; most
communities are leaning toward Contractor Designed Option A;
seeking consideration but wanted to open it up for discussion.
Jolley thinks it's a great option; asked if there are limitations to picking
up these cans in neighborhoods with smaller streets and lots of street
parking. Franey said they just roll these to the truck. Larick asked
about excess; more than would fit in bin. Franey said right now,
residents have unlimited; idea with this is you cannot do that now; in
pre-bid meetings, this was discussed and we don't want to have to call
for bulk pick up; Rumpke will do bulk pickup every week; bulk pickup
would be specifically items like furniture, etc.; an item, not just a bag of
trash; can lease an extra trash container for $7.95/month. Kneeland
asked what happens if you underestimate and cannot fit it in that
week. Franey said hold a bag till next week. Angelou said what about
yard waste. Franey said all 3 pickups on same day; consortium
worked together and asked that Gahanna's day be Wednesday; they
told us they believe that will work; have not gotten absolute yes yet;
depending on which option a community chooses. Schnetzer asked
about 96 gallon recycle bin. Franey said that is default; our attorney
said you could probably get them to go smaller but that is what they
want. Schnetzer confirmed that all savings were over the 5-year
period. Kneeland asked for a final comparative chart. Franey said
what I have has been sent to you. Angelou asked when it would go
into effect. Franey answered 2015. Franey displayed examples of the
footprint of the existing containers and compared them with the
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proposed containers. Renner said definitely Option A. Jolley agreed.
Angelou said Option A. Schnetzer said he is leaning toward Status
Quo because of the challenge of changing yard waste day. Kneeland
asked about items that were not recyclable. Franey said about 10% of
what goes in a recycling bin is not recyclable; what they do is take
those and stack them; they find a market for them; then they sell that
whole lot. Angelou asked if they will do some education. Franey said
yes. Renner said there is a placard on top of the cans; asked about
timeline. Franey said we would like to tell contractors by June 26
which option communities are going with; then we have time to
execute contract; by October 15, Rumpke gives us implementation
plan and we begin educating this fall. Kneeland asked if there was a
plan to educate the public at this point. Franey said we have no plan
for that; maybe that could be a topic at the next Coffee with Council.
Larick asked whose wish it was to have all pickups on one day. Franey
said theirs. Larick said he is fine with Option A but going to be a painful
transition; try to minimize that. Franey said this is the way society is
going but know how much work changing from Status Quo is going to
be. Angelou said the recycling containers having lids is a huge plus.
Renner encouraged everyone to visit SWACO. Kneeland said concern
I have is the indiscriminate resident; how will that be monitored.
Franey said they should tag what is out there and then it could be a
zoning issue. Kneeland said majority in favor of Option A. Franey said
by 26th they actually want to tell Rumpke which communities are
going with which option. Renner asked about Wednesday versus
Friday. Franey said we will tell attorneys that we are considering
Option A but it needs to be on Wednesday not Friday; not here the
next day to take calls; can't provide customer service; not in favor of
Friday pickup; holidays would bump everyone one day.
ITEMS-From Council
2014-0061 Council Supporting Docs
Intellinetics
Larick said McWilliams has done a great deal of work to get the office
running more efficiently; currently everything that we have is paper;
there is a relatively significant amount that has been microfilmed or
microfiched; that makes for challenges for requests, accessibility and
research; talked to Ohio Historical Society; talked about McWilliam's
history in Groveport; have had a discussion with intellinetics to see
what it takes to go from a purely paper environment to something that
is more accessible; retention schedule and requirements could be
addressed with this; need a decision of are we at a place to pursue
the beginning of this work; we do have a records administrator who
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works very diligently to make sure when questions are asked,
information is given; she is the life and breath of records in the City.
Kneeland said the other risk is that we have a basement full of paper;
all it would take is one flood; this is a single point of failure; this would
allow all departments to access records and have people becoming
responsible for their own records; Whitehall uses these folks; we have
Ewald from Records Commission standpoint to get input to see where
we can go with this; we believe they are the right company to go with.
Jim Perry, intellinetics, said we have been in service for 20 years
servicing document management; the State Auditors' Office, Franklin
County Clerk of Courts, etc. are some clients of ours; we provide
services for many police and sherriff's departments throughout the
U.S.; we offer a full content management solution; gives you ability to
scan and categorize all documents you have; up to 100 types of
security; includes auto-redaction; full workflow tool; there are
automatic notifications that are part of that as well; retention schedules
would be part of the solution; all of this is built in; film and fiche could
be made into TIF files and searched; go through Intellivue and search
here and on network to access documents that way; this is a full
content management solution; can scan, index or retrieve; can store
any type of format; any electronic file can now be stored; discussed 10
different areas. Kneeland said some areas discussed were the ability
to produce documents; already has redaction built into it. Ewald said
we talked about current status of records and response time; making
sure we don't release anything personal; need to move forward
calculated and carefully with expense in mind; think it is good to move
in this direction; amount of duplicates in system is alarming. Kneeland
said want to familiarize everyone that we are exploring this; just an
introduction that we can move down this path. Larick said two
fundamental components; start and move forward component; also
historical component; getting history migrated into this environment so
that everything is available with ease is going to take a significant
amount of time and effort; have a shrinking window; don't want to wait
until that window closes to move forward. McWilliams said looking at
efficiencies, records is a challenge; you cannot find a document
without getting up and going downstairs and looking at a notebook in
the basement; current Records Administrator Sharon Montgomery has
run effectively with minimal tools; think it is imperative to get a
document management software; each department would have a
license to search and save their documents; imperative move to start
the process. Kneeland said we also included Gaydos in this process.
Gaydos said this is a big step forward; storage is something that has
to be considered; once configured, would be a huge gain in
efficiencies. McWilliams said microfilm is becoming obsolete; not a
good use of our money to maintain documents in a way that is not
searchable; we aren't even going to be able to access that type of
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record anymore. Larick said historically we've have a significant
concern of permanent records needing to be in paper or microfilm; this
does not change that; puts it in an electronic form where it would be
readily available. Angelou said off-site permanent record would still be
involved; has Montgomery been involved in all discussions. Larick said
in some discussions but not all. Angelou asked why. Larick said a big
part of this is doing things differently than how they are being done
today. Kneeland said we are not doing massive duplication anymore;
we have that here and off-site; that is cost; some discussions were
technical in nature and by her own admission, Montgomery didn't want
to be involved in those discussions; it wasn't a side step by any
means. McWilliams said it wasn't an exclusion; imperative to have her
involved in this if we move forward; that is when she will be intensely
involved with this process. Kneeland asked for thoughts on this
process and moving forward. Larick said there were some
adjustments you were going to look at; this attachment has options.
Perry said part of this is discovery; all of that is used for configuring
the solution; current records manager would have to be involved with
that; after configuration would be installation and testing. Angelou
asked about time frame. Perry said at least 3-4 months. Kneeland said
there are 2 parts to this; historical and current moving forward.
Angelou asked how historical conversion would happen. Perry said
there are a number of ways to do that; have to look at each document
type; have proposed that even film and fiche be converted. Kneeland
said we are looking at ways to control costs further and look at ways to
not have to farm everything out. Perry said option 1 is software
installed, training, maintenance, licensing; the other is more of a rental
on your server; most organizations choose to have everything on site;
would be a matter of loading and configuring software and doing
training after that. Larick said would it be possible for Perry to present
what the transition would look like with a rough timeline including
historical conversion and business looking different moving forward ;
does Council have any input on vendor. Angelou asked if it needed to
be bid out. Larick said no; and I don't see the need with the
comparisons we've made. Kneeland said Perry is a Gahanna resident.
Renner said he has no problem. Kneeland said we need a correct,
current proposal before we can start legislation; that will give us time
to do a little more research. Angelou asked about help once installed.
Perry said all support is done in house; staff handles calls Monday
through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.; 8 step process; after process, you will
have full documentation around all software; support is part of
maintenance costs; don't outsource any support. McWilliams said
Westerville just did this project and had 5 vendors; Perry came in
lower than that; can bring that so we can compare.
RECOMMENDATION: Back to Committee
2. Council Office Performance Data, Mid-Year Update, Forecast
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Larick said will talk about this very briefly; McWilliams has been
working very diligently at reporting on work in Council office; objective
is to look at hours worked in Council office; purpose is to get an
understanding of how much work we have; wanted to minimize
overtime and extra hours; that has essentially been completed except
McWilliams puts in many hours getting up to speed on Council office ;
want to mention in short that the hours were similar in 2012 and 2013;
office is down 20 hours/week this year; that is based on some
changes monitoring how work is done and going electronic; there is a
distinct ability to reduce demand of hours even further; there is an
ongoing discussion on passports; how many completed; net revenue;
have a bit of a ticker in there; records is another piece of this; how
many records requests worked; range is typically 1-6/week that the
records administrator works on; how many are completed or pending;
Montgomery does an awesome job keeping up with them; records
research hours takes up about 5-8 hours/week; rest of time is doing
other duties; operating expenses outside of manpower; looking at this,
there is $4,000 in one week in April; we're in the hundreds most
weeks. McWilliams said we terminated our contract with Iron Mountain
in April; that was the cost associated with that. Larick said will add
some simple summaries; make it so it is simpler to see; objective here
is it doesn't take a lot of energy to input and doesn't take a lot to figure
out what it is saying. McWilliams said this tool shows how we can work
more efficiently; things need to be realigned and restructured; this
dashboard will determine how we can run as efficiently and effectively
as possible.
1. Gahanna Competitiveness
Kneeland said what drove this is the loss of AEP; trying to figure out
how we become sustainable and increase revenue, etc. Larick said
part of this came from discussion around the Comprehensive Master
Plan; this is a more tactical plan; who are the most competitive cities;
what do they do and how do they approach things; what is in our
control; identification of what are those things and what needs to be in
place to move down those paths to take most advantage of those
things; comprehensive planning is critical but more long-term and big
picture than this. Kneeland said this ties in closely with performance
metrics; seems like we should be evaluating and comparing our hard
core services with other communities;from a revenue per resident,
how do we compare to some other community; some of that could
come from day population versus night population; how do we tie all
this together to accomplish all those things people believe we need to
be successful; is there more we can identify to make the community
better. Larick said competitiveness in growth of population, growth in
jobs or simply intrinsic growth of job value; is there consensus on what
competitiveness we are concerned with; want to maintain growth in
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population and revenue. Schnetzer said we are built out; need to
direct attention on economic development and get maximum benefit
out of what we have. Larick said also need to be competitive in how do
we keep people; keeping us on their short list of places to live.
Schnetzer said a huge player in that is the schools; absolutely critical
to families; do we engage schools in discussions and find where
synergies might lie. Kneeland said do we have statistics other than
ICMA on how we compare. Larick said we have some numbers; not
sure what we want to compare; what are the drivers of where people
want to be; Dublin and New Albany, what is it they have that drives
their perception. Kneeland said we constantly get compared to
Westerville; what do they do that we get compared to; where are they
structurally. Larick said does this warrant a separate committee of
some kind. Kneeland said would be more efficient to have another
committee. Renner said you are asking several different large scale
questions; each one will take a large amount of energy; think it best in
a different committee with dedicated resources. Larick said not just
Council people be a part of it; needs broader perspective; neutral
input. Leeseberg said thought of Niagara that just came here; speak to
their decision maker; schools brought me here; businesses as
opposed to people are two different questions; good demographic of
people and housing; what kinds of people do we want to appeal to.
Angelou said we have a development department; we have
Community Investment Corporation and have a number of
organizations; have a Chamber of Commerce; have availability with
MODE and 2020; have a lot of content; a lot of trained people; since
2011 have heard jobs, jobs, more jobs; interesting to note that
Gahanna is having more start up businesses; have ability to have a lot
of information out of data that MORPC has. Schnetzer referred to the
SIPOC framework; what is end product. Larick said getting
understanding of are we able to take advantage of our resources in
the most effective way possible; how do we get to understand what we
should look at changing, implementing, doing so that we are a
community that is commonly thought of as one of the first places want
to go. Kneeland suggested bringing this back in 2 weeks. Schnetzer
asked Council to consider who else you want to include.
RECOMMENDATION: Back to Committee
Jayme Maxwell, CMC, Reporting
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Thomas R. Kneeland, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, June 9, 2014 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
VISITORS -
1. Laurie Jadwin, Convention & Visitors Bureau, Creekside Blues & Jazz
Festival - Volunteer Information
ITEM-From Clerk of Council
2014-0059 Liquor Permit-Big Daddy's
1. Liquor Permit - Big Daddy's
ITEM-From City Engineer
2014-0060 Service and Engineering Supporting Docs
1. Hamilton Road Central Presentation & OPWC Grant Application
ITEM-From Director of Public Service
1. 2015 Refuse Contract
ITEMS-From Council
2014-0061 Council Supporting Docs
1. Gahanna Competitiveness
2. Council Office Performance Data, Mid-Year Update, Forecast
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