Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · August 11, 2014
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Thomas R. Kneeland, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 11, 2014 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
Present 7 - Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg,
Michael Schnetzer, Karen J. Angelou, and Stephen A. Renner
Additional Attendees:
Mayor Stinchcomb, City Attorney Ewald, Deputy Chief Bell, Dottie
Franey, Matt Holdren, Sue Wadley, Rory Gaydos, Tony Collins, Karl
Wetherholt, Niel Jurist, General Williams, Joann Bury, Anthony Jones,
Clerk McWilliams, Press.
PENDING LEGISLATION
ORD-0097-2014 TO AMEND CODE SECTION 148.12, FEES, OF CHAPTER 148,
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND TO
REPEAL SECTION 1109.08(k), PARK FEE OF PUBLIC AREAS OF
CHAPTER 1109, STANDARDS, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES
OF GAHANNA.
Kneeland called the meeting for Monday, August 11, 2014 to order at
7:40 PM; first item is for pending legislation Ord-0097-2014. Jones
said I am requesting to withdraw this legislation; we will be making
some changes based on Council discussion and resubmitting it at a
later date. Kneeland clarified the legislation had already had first
reading.
Recommendation: Postpone Indefinitely; Consent Agenda.
ITEM - From the Director of IT
2014-0106 IT Supporting Docs
1. Renewal of ISDN Prime (ISN PRI) with AT&T
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Gaydos said our current contract with AT&T for ISDN PRI is expired;
this makes it subject to rate increases of an unknown amount; have
provided a contract for 36 months that I am requesting we accept; I
did obtain a cost quote for 12 and 24 months where costs are higher;
if we use the 36 month option and decide to upgrade during the
contract period, no termination fees would apply; can share additional
cost information or answer any questions.
Jolley said what is the protocol we are on currently. Gaydos said it is
ISDN PRI; not an analog circuit; the alternative is SIP (Session
Initiation Protocol) trunking; our current phone system can do SIP
trunking which we should investigate; it would not be a quick solution
requiring 6 to 9 months. Jolley said this contract would be good since
it is locking in for less, unless we are going to upgrade; would we be
able to upgrade within the existing contract with AT&T or change to
the different technology. Gaydos said we can change without any
penalties. Jolley said we can lock in this low rate; then look at SIP
trunking within the next 36 months; there is no down side or
cancellation fees or other charges. Gaydos said yes. Jolley said are
there any other providers of this technology. Gaydos said yes; have
not done cost comparisons for SIP. Jolley said what about for PRI.
Gaydos said we receive State Term Pricing; believe that is as low as
we can get.
Kneeland said what action are you requesting tonight. Gaydos said
approval for the contract. Larick said on what term will the contract be
based. Gaydos said am requesting emergency if Council feels this is
appropriate to expedite. Larick said back to the original request; it was
for 3 years but some other options have been talked about. Gaydos
said the contract presented is for 36 months; that is what I am asking
for. Larick said can you step back and provide the costs of the
different terms. Gaydos said yes; a 12 month term is $1743; a 24
month term is $1343; the 36 month is $970. Kneeland said what are
the penalties for early termination. Gaydos said as long as we
continue with AT&T they would consider it an upgrade and not charge
termination fees.
Angelou said we could change to SIP trunking with no cancellation
fee. Gaydos said yes; would provide the different service; we are not
prepared today to move to an SIP environment. Angelou said I think
we should do the 3 year contract.
Jolley said the 36 month contract is half as much as the 12 month and
it gives the opportunity to upgrade with no penalty; not seeing any
down side. Kneeland said the thing we are struggling with is, there are
other carriers that potentially could service this; not opposed to locking
in for 3 years; think we could eventually get good deal by having
several carriers; struggle is there is other technology out there, but we
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are under pressure to get this signed because we are out of contract
now; AT&T does not typically notify as they like to collect the higher
rate; if we sign for this term and then go with another carrier we do
have to worry about early termination fees; part of my angst over this
whole thing.
Angelou asked how long have we been with AT&T. Kneeland said
forever. Angelou said we have gotten good service with them; how
much over contract have they been charging us since it expired.
Gaydos said there is no formula for that; one example is from $1100
to $1500; peers have had one go up as much as $2800. Angelou
asked if other communities are with AT&T. Gaydos said it varies.
Kneeland asked for any other questions. Renner said Gaydos
recommended this contract at the beginning of discussion; stand that
we should move forward with this on consent agenda. Kneeland said
you want emergency language. Gaydos said the risk is we may be
charged the unknown additional fee. Kneeland said do we want this
with waiver and emergency so we can move forward and have the
Mayor sign the contract and lock in rates. Council agreed.
ITEM - Clerk of Council
2014-0109 Document Management Solution Memos
1. Document Management Solution Project
McWilliams said Larick and I discussed bringing you an update on
records solutions discussed in June; we felt it was appropriate to get 2
more proposals for comparison; currently looking at the 3 together; it is
not apples to apples with licensing or software; where we are now is
reviewing all 3.
Kneeland said how soon will we have additional information.
McWilliams said waiting on last one; there was a lot of "to be
determined" and we could not move forward with that. Larick said
what do we need to do a first reading. Kneeland said can be done by
title only. Larick said does anyone have a concern about doing a first
reading. McWilliams said then it would come back to committee to
discuss the different proposals; in the interim will also discuss at the
Mayor's staff meeting; need them to understand the solution and that
a vendor will come in and provide specifics and a timeline.
Angelou said if we are going to select potentially between 3 different
vendor solutions, why not just wait and then put it on and waive 2nd
reading rather than just putting a title there. Leeseberg said it lets
everyone know we are moving forward with the process. Angelou said
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we will not have made any decision on what it will be until we have the
additional proposals; makes better sense to me to wait. Larick said we
have a unique legislative process; either way is fine.
Kneeland said we will discuss when information received and plan to
potentially waive second reading.
Recommendation: Back to Committee of the Whole when information received.
Della Brandenberger, Reporting
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC
Clerk of Council
APPROVED by the Committee of the Whole, this
day of 2014.
Brian D. Larick
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Thomas R. Kneeland, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 11, 2014 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
PENDING LEGISLATION
ORD-0097-2014 TO AMEND CODE SECTION 148.12, FEES, OF CHAPTER 148,
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND TO
REPEAL SECTION 1109.08(k), PARK FEE OF PUBLIC AREAS OF
CHAPTER 1109, STANDARDS, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF
GAHANNA.
ITEM - From the Director of IT
2014-0106 IT Supporting Docs
1. Renewal of ISDN Prime (ISN PRI) with AT&T
ITEM - Clerk of Council
2014-0109 Document Management Solution Memos
1. Document Management Solution Project
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