Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · December 12, 2016
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Brian D. Larick, Chair
Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower
Nancy R. McGregor, Karen J. Angelou
Michael Schnetzer, Jamie Leeseberg
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, December 12, 2016 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Larick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES: Michael Blackford, Kim Banning, Shane
Ewald, Dottie Franey, Rob Priestas, Jennifer Teal, Mayor Tom
Kneeland, Abby Cochran, Joann Bury, Jeff Barr, Chief Dennis Murphy,
Mark Thomas, Residents.
Present 7 - Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower, Brian D. Larick, Nancy R.
McGregor, Karen J. Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, and Jamie Leeseberg
PENDING LEGISLATION -
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT:
ORD-0113-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT WITH RINGS BROTHERS, LLC FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 181 GRANVILLE STREET TO BE USED
BY ROCKWOOD CLEANERS
Blackford said Bobby Rings is here tonight as well as CIC President,
George Mrus; heard about the need for an appraisal and the
economic impact; we have not done an appraisal for this request;
Bobby approached the City last year with the intention of purchasing
all of 181; was discussed that not all was for sale but a portion of the
property; had an average price per acre; estimated a tenth of an acre
to get to $30,000; $32,452 was the actual divided number; he was just
under that; staff looked at other retail properties available in the City;
all throughout the City; average value was established of $30,500 per
acre; is in line with undeveloped properties; offer was evaluated by
staff and the CIC; the CIC determined it was a fair and reasonable
offer; based on consistence with area plans; looking at economic
impact with this sale; we have the Rockwood Cleaners site and 181
Granville; 4 tenants currently in the building; 3 will be vacated by end
of year; property being considered is for parking; need for parking at
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181 is disappearing already; plan for that site is to demolish the
building and extend Shull Avenue; essentially we have a property in
the future that has no use to the City; Rockwood Cleaners came to us
looking for guidance; they are outgrowing their space at 171 Granville;
they looked at other properties within the City; hopes this will make
this facility his permanent home; if they are allowed to purchase this
property, they anticipate their payroll will double; our 2015 Economic
Development Strategy (EDS) looked at the Rockwood Cleaners site,
181 Granville, and the bank site; anticipated a 30,000 sq. ft. retail
development; that impact is less than what the EDS proposed;
Leeseberg said he originally inquired about environmental concerns;
that concern was dissolved; part of the agreement is that all vehicles
be parked in the back; looks like the eastern edge lines up with the
right-of-way for Shull; is there a proposed right-of-way; Priestas said
no right-of-way drops at this point; Leeseberg said sees parking would
be consistent with the plan; Priestas confirmed; Larick said we talk
about a small business being the driver of a community; also
incentives; what they have done is the poster-child of this; he has
translated that over the years into a growing business; wants to
expand in our City; Angelou said $30,000 seemed reasonable for this
property; the purchase of this entire site was too much; this was a
no-brainer; he also lives in Gahanna and works in Gahanna;
something positive for this community; McGregor said it is a great
business; concern is that we paid the price we did for it; seems like we
are not charging enough for this; if we are not getting an appraisal;
why do we ever get an appraisal; protects the tax-payers; they paid for
this property; nothing against the use or the business; Larick said we
put a great deal of effort into Heartland Bank retention effort; that
property was estimated at a particular value and we were looking at
selling it for half the value to keep Heartland Bank; across from the
Golf Depot; as an example of the efforts we go through to get this type
of business and retain this; Blackford said that is accurate; the efforts
for small businesses; the retention and development efforts
emphasize the benefits; the economic impact far exceeds the typical
retail business; part of the economics they look at and why there was
more discussion on aesthetic development; Mayor Kneeland said they
place a high value on business retention and growth; through those
efforts that they have worked with over time that they offer incentives;
and the job growth is something we need to focus on; the 181
property, like it or not, we have it; was not originally in agreement with
purchasing it in the first place; we artificially set the price higher; we
should not penalize someone else for the mistakes made years ago;
Larick said wants to make it clear that there has been effort to get to
this price; this property is not needed for right-of-way or the park; will
be unused property; Schnetzer asked the cost of an appraisal; can we
identify anytime we have purchased property without an appraisal; and
if it is being delivered as an incentive, should there not be some sort of
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claw-back in the clause; just throwing those up for deliberation; Ewald
said the second question; did a transfer with a recent Columbia Gas
deal; was an economic development incentive; this was very similar to
that; Mayor Kneeland said the CIC actually bought this property;
believes the current property deals we have done, they were
negotiated through the realtor; Mrus said you are correct; CIC has
purchased properties and no appraisal has been used; Schnetzer said
he is trying to establish that this is a normal course of business; Mayor
Kneeland said does not know of a time the CIC has sold property;
Metzbower said we are still basing these on county numbers, correct;
in some way we then have done an appraisal; Blackford said we
looked at real estate data and what properties were being listed at;
does not believe it was the sale value; mix of data; did some degree of
research for an appraisal on the property; reached out to the auditor
last week and this week to get information on how they come up with
the appraisal value on the website; property values in that area have
been challenged in the last several years.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES:
ORD-0126-2016 TO ESTABLISH THE BENEFITS FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CITY
OF GAHANNA, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2017; AND TO DECLARE
AN EMERGENCY.
Cochran said her three items are related; has no additional from last
time; happy to answer any questions; McGregor asked about the
holidays; understands we are not recognizing President's Day but we
are keeping Martin Luther King Day; maybe we can do one this year
and another next year; do not like the idea of not honoring that
President's Day; just an opinion; Cochran said we do not want to take
away from the holiday; we can try to observe this day throughout the
work day while we are here and open at City Hall.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0127-2016 TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CITY
OF GAHANNA FOR THE PERIOD JANUARY 1, 2017 THROUGH
DECEMBER 31, 2017; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
See additional discussion under ORD-0126-2016.
Schnetzer asked about the ruling from the labor board; asked if this
related to that; Cochran said that was already taken care of in earlier
legislation.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0128-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND ADOPT THE PAY
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PLAN ADMINISTRATION POLICY, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2017;
AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
See discussion under ORD-0128-2016.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION:
RES-0029-2016 USDA FOREST SERVICE'S COMMUNITY FOREST PROGRAM
(CFP) GRANT - Parker property - purchase of land located just south
of the Golf Course and east of the Mifflin Township Cemetery along
the Big Walnut Creek - 155 Olde Ridenour.
Barr said this being brought back for further discussion with Council;
for property located at 155 Olde Ridenour Road; wanted to clarify that
one concern that staff had internally; grant limits us that we cannot
develop this property or sell it in the future; may not be the right venue
to purchase this property; Larick asked about a shelter building; Barr
said these would be water, sewer, electric, facilities; would no exclude
a comfort station; the boardwalk would be permissable; would be for
an outdoor educational area; match on the grant is dollar for dollar; if
this is Council's wish to move forward, would be obligated to pay for
this; Leeseberg said he does not want to pursue this; Larick said has a
similar thought; Angelou said the problem exists, if we apply and do
not purchase the land, it will take points away for future grants; Barr
said we would definitely have a black eye; Angelou said not being sure
of pricing, would be difficult to move forward; McGregor asked if we do
not intend to purchase that property; are they likely to sell to someone
else; Barr said that is the family's wishes to sell the property; cannot
speak to their sense of urgency; they will sell; or try to sell that
property; knows there are flood plain issues there; do not know if they
have a suitable buyer; McGregor questioned the impact of another
buyer; we have a boardwalk and a trail in that area; there is a
buildable portion; they can put parking on a flood plain; likely he
bought with the intention of putting a building there; Mayor Kneeland
said the issue today is the grant; to place a value on the purpose and
to tie it up for conservation; we would have to match each dollar from
them; believes it is a bad use of our money right now; Barr said got the
grant on short notice; apologized for not fully vetting this through;
Mayor Kneeland said will look for funds for purchasing this in the
future; but this grant is not something they want to pursue at this time;
Teal said this is on the schedule for the Finance Committee, in 2017,
we did include a year one funding for this purchase; that is still on the
table; we agree not to pursue this particular grant; a placeholder for
this funding is on the table to be discussed; Schnetzer said there was
a grant earlier this year for a costly section of trails; we had to step up
and say we would do that; had to pull 5 years of capital and we would
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accelerate that; Teal said that was unrelated; plans to bring forward an
update to Council in January on the McCutcheon Road property;
Angelou said that property was purchased because it was a once in a
100 year opportunity; was also brought forward that nothing would
happen on that property for quite some time; we now have big plans;
Teal said will pull all of that forward; there is grant money that was
recieved and money on the table; will discuss the plans to move
forward; Angelou said we bought the land as an opportunity for the
community; we also said that nothing would happen for awhile; Barr
said staff time to plant the trees will be matched; existing operating
funds can be matched as well as staff time, benefits, and wages; if the
purchase of the Parker property is off the table; would like permission
for a grant for the McCutcheon Road property; Larick asked about the
McCutcheon Road property and how much space would remain green
and how much would be functional for sports; Barr said linear part
from Hines east to west; the rear of the property would be lined with
trees to give a visual impact; would hide the homes on the property
line; Renner asked if we are talking about morphing of this resolution
into that, definitely in favor; Barr said same deadline; can write this
grant in-house; Metzbower asked if the types of trees have been
discussed; Barr said not definite but would look at shade trees of
different heights; not one particular species; Angelou asked about the
dollar for dollar, what is the guestimate; Barr said originally talked
about $20K; we have enough time to implement staff into this; we plan
for tree planting each year; can tie into Arbor Day; and also take in
volunteers; Larick agreed with this.
RECOMMEDNATION: Lost in Committee of the Whole. New request filed under
RES-0031-2016
RES-0031-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR
GRANT FUNDS FOR THE USDA FOREST SERVICE'S COMMUNITY
FOREST PROGRAM (CFP) GRANT; AND IF AWARDED, TO
AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ESTABLISH A
SPECIAL FUND FOR THE GRANT.
See discussion under RES-0029-2016.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda for the grant request for the purchase of
trees for the McCutcheon Road park property.
ITEM FROM THE CITY ENGINEER
RES-0027-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR
GRANT FUNDS FOR THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION
(OPWC) CLEAN OHIO CONSERVATION FUND GRANT FOR THE
BIG WALNUT TRAIL SECTION 4 PROJECT; AND IF AWARDED, TO
AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ESTABLISH A
SPECIAL FUND FOR THE GRANT.
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Priestas said this is for support for the grant for Big Walnut Trail
Section 4; Angelou asked if there will be any issues getting in to do
this work; Priestas said the owners are in support; McGregor asked
about the section of McKenna Creek; Priestas explained the section.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ITEM FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY
ORD-0062-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A MUTUAL
RELEASE OF ALL CLAIMS; TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS
THEREFOR.
Ewald said we have been discussing this for 6-7 months; the
agreement will be presented next week; is still offsite with outside
counsel; no emergency or waiver; will be introduced and come back to
Committee; can introduce this January 2 to avoid postponing this.
RECOMMENDATION: To be introduced 1/2/2016; back to Committee.
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
MR-0058-2016 TO APPOINT BOARD, COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FILLING TERMS THAT EXPIRE DECEMBER 31, 2016.
Banning said this is a Motion Resolution; will track all appointments in
one place.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
- 2017 City Observed Holidays
Banning said contingent upon passage of the Benefits Ordinance;
Council has the desire to meet on Tuesday following a City observed
holiday or to still observe federal holidays; Larick asked if that will fall
under Council Rules of Procedure; Banning said no, it is what is set at
the Organizational Meeting on January 2; Larick said his preference is
to meet on that Monday if the City is operating; Banning said will place
on the January Organizational Meeting agenda.
DISCUSSED.
- Waive Second Committee Meeting in December
Banning said this is to waive the next meeting on December 27;
wanted to confirm with Council; Larick confirmed that they will not
meet at the Committee meeting on December 27.
Second Committee Meeting in December is waived.
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- Council Rules of Procedure
Banning said these Rules of Procedure are usually adopted in January
at the Organizational Meeting; will meet with leadership after January
2 and bring the Rules for adoption at the second meeting with any
changes; Larick asked if there is an issue with carrying over existing
rules; Banning said there is no issue with carrying over of existing
rules; Council agreed.
Rules of Procedure adoption date discussed.
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
ORD-0133-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN AN EXTENSION
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STEEL, PAPER & FORESTRY,
RUBBER, MANUFACTURING, ENERGY, ALLIED INDUSTRIAL, AND
SERVICE WORKERS INTERNATIONAL, LOCAL 9110; AND TO
DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
Cochran said this agreement will expire January 1; asking for
emergency and waiver; their union representative passed away
unexpectedly; they did not have a backup; scheduled for our first
meeting January 21; would like to sign the extension at that time; have
not started negotiations with them; duration of extension is for 3
months.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda with waiver and emergency.
ITEM FROM CITY COUNCIL
RES-0030-2016 A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY.
Angelou said she gave a copy of the Resolution from MORPC to the
Clerk; thought this would be good to put through; by passing this it will
make known what services are available and how to be a part of that;
hopefully we can have information available in City Hall; gave
information to Mayor Kneeland.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS - no action required
2016-0368 Department Reports - 12.12.2016 Committee
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ADJOURNMENT
7:56 p.m.
Kayla Holbrook, reporting.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Brian D. Larick, Chair
Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower
Nancy R. McGregor, Karen J. Angelou
Michael Schnetzer, Jamie Leeseberg
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, December 12, 2016 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
PENDING LEGISLATION -
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT:
ORD-0113-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT WITH RINGS BROTHERS, LLC FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 181 GRANVILLE STREET TO BE USED BY
ROCKWOOD CLEANERS
This Ordinance has been introduced.
DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES:
ORD-0126-2016 TO ESTABLISH THE BENEFITS FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2017; AND TO DECLARE AN
EMERGENCY.
This Ordinance has been introduced.
ORD-0127-2016 TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA FOR THE PERIOD JANUARY 1, 2017 THROUGH
DECEMBER 31, 2017; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
This Ordinance has been introduced.
ORD-0128-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND ADOPT THE PAY PLAN
ADMINISTRATION POLICY, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2017; AND TO
DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
This Ordinance has been introduced.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION:
RES-0029-2016 USDA Forest Service's Community Forest Program (CFP) Grant -
Resolution of Support
Pending from last Committee of the Whole - additional information requested
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ITEM FROM THE CITY ENGINEER
RES-0027-2016 Big Walnut Trail 4 Clean Ohio Conservation Fund Grant - Resolution of
Support
ITEM FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY
ORD-0062-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A MUTUAL RELEASE
OF ALL CLAIMS; TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS THEREFOR.
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
MR-0058-2016 TO APPOINT BOARD, COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FILLING TERMS THAT EXPIRE DECEMBER 31, 2016.
- 2017 City Observed Holidays
- Waive Second Committee Meeting in December
- Council Rules of Procedure
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
ORD-0133-2016 Steelworker Agreement Extension
ITEM FROM CITY COUNCIL
RES-0030-2016 Energy Efficiency Resolution
DEPARTMENT REPORTS - no action required
2016-0368 Department Reports - 12.12.2016 Committee
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