Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · July 22, 2019
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Vice President, Chair
Brian Metzbower, President
Jamie Leeseberg
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Nancy R. McGregor
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 22, 2019 7:00 PM Council Committee Room
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
2019-0097 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: #84786050005 101 Mill Street, Suite
B105, Stadium Sports Bar; Economic Development Transfer (TREX) for
D1 Permit
Liquor Permit stands with no action taken.
C. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
2019-0095 Update From the Director of Public Safety
Mayor Kneeland stated that the Safety Director did not get in from his
flight and therefore wouldn't be able to give his report in person.
D. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
2019-0096 Update from the Director of Public Service & Engineering.
Grant Crawford, Interim Director read the Public Service and
Engineering update attached to the minutes. He updated Council on the
Touch a Truck event that will occur on Saturday, August 24, 2019 9a.m.
to 1 p.m.
MR-0032-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
SERVICE TO BID THE JANITORIAL SERVICES CONTRACT.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
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MR-0033-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
SERVICE & ENGINEERING TO BID THE MUNICIPAL LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
Mrs. McGregor asked what was Hamilton Central?
Mr. Crawford responded that it was the double round-a bouts, the new
winding section.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0072-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Damage to City Property
Mrs. Angelou asked what was the damage.
Mr. Crawford responded various city damage be it property, vehicle or
waterline damage.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0073-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS - Water Meter Proceeds
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0074-2019 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
CARGILL FOR ROAD SALT FOR THE 2019-2020 WINTER SEASON.
Mr. Leeseberg asked if there was a minimum needed to purchase.
Mr. Crawford responded there was not.
Mrs. Angelou asked if this was the same cost as last year.
Mr. Crawford responded that it was and the same supplier.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0075-2019 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
GAHANNA OHIO: Amending Chapter 1303.02 Amendments to Code of
Part Thirteen Building Code
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0076-2019 TO AMEND THE BUILDING AND ZONING FEE SCHEDULE.
Mr. Renner said that there was a question last week about some of the
fees.
Mayor Kneeland responded that he asked Mr. Crawford to look into
those questions and that he should have something to report.
Mr. Crawford said he did review the comments and concerns that the
citizen brought up and said that upon review of fees, we do appear to be
comparable to neighboring municipalities. In some cases, we are
higher, in some, we are lower. He said he could provide details from
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certain subdivisions if Council would like, for example, Columbus would
be $200 where we are $150 and New Albany would be $130, but there
would be fees for additional inspections.
Mr. Renner asked for a statement with some data submitted to Council
would be helpful. He asked if there was a permit available for solar
panels which is somewhat of an outlier that the citizen mentioned.
Mr. Crawford asked if that was a specific permit that Council wanted
looked at.
Mr. Renner said no, but requested that Mr. Crawford address some of
the comments.
Mr. Crawford said that folks had done an extensive review and compared
with Columbus and Westerville and worked to find a middle ground.
Mr. Metzbower asked why would there be an off number, as with New
Albany's case.
Mr. Crawford responded that he didn't know how they determine their
fees so couldn't answer. He said the inspection fee is 10.1 cents per foot,
but that they probably have some formula to calculate.
Mr. Metzbower asked if Gahanna had a basis for fees.
Mr. Crawford said it was based upon surrounding communities and past
permits to keep it sustainable and keep to the middle ground.
Mrs. McGregor asked about the example of replacing a set of steps the
same size. Does it require an inspection or is that just a permit fee?
Mr. Crawford said it would depend on a certain situation. If it is the main
egress into the property it would require an inspection. If it is under 200
square foot no more than 30 feet from finish grade and unattached as in
a free standing deck in the back, it would not need an inspection.
Mr. Renner said that the conversation was that this was somewhat
expensive for homeowners. He asked if there is any appeal process.
Mr. Crawford said he was not familiar with any process to ask for help but
that it would probably be City Council.
Mrs. McGregor said that it did seem that that small of project, that a $250
fee was a large percentage of the whole project.
Mr. Crawford said it was $150. It was initially reviewed as an alteration,
and then it was discovered it was not. It wasn't a barter situation.
Mrs. Angelou said that it was more of a glitch then.
Mr. Crawford said correct.
Mr. Renner asked Mr. Crawford if he would have the information before
the next agenda.
Mr. Crawford said he would.
Mrs. Angelou asked if we were keeping track of how fast the permitting is
being done and we have data on it.
Mr. Crawford said we do.
Mrs. Angelou asked if it was going down.
Mr. Crawford said it was originally 2 weeks now it’s down to 2-3 days
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
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E. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
2019-0094 Capital Needs Assessment 2020 to 2024
Mrs. Bury presented the 5 year Capital Needs Assessment (attached).
Mr. Leeseberg asked when the last time a facilities plan was done was.
*unk*: 2005
Mrs. Angelou asked about 2019. She said there were expectations that
things would move back to semi normal and that services would be back
to what was expected. She said her concern was that we're kind of
stuck and that we should be able to move forward and replace those are
gone. 6 months until 2020 and she doesn't feel we should be stuck. She
wants to see forward motion now.
Mrs. Bury said we can only do so much and only have so much
manpower to handle it. She pointed out that the two Police Management
Analysts were on board, advertising has begun for Communications
Manager and Miranda pointed out that PD Sergeant and Lieutenant
testing was progressing.
Miranda explained that she will be doing PD Officers and we are moving
forward with positions that we have funding for. Some of the positions
that are vacant, the money was moved to pay for those positions that
were going to be laid off because the positions were not going to be
back filled. Parks and rec will be working on a staffing survey to
determine that staffing requests were proper.
Mayor Kneeland said that he knew that one of the issues was the Senior
Center and that he has been working with Mr. Barr on a solution that is
very workable. It would be more of an interim timing for about a month
before they could get someone in there full-time.
Mr. Barr said that through the end of the month Zack Guthrie is at the
Senior Center to handle the duties that a typical supervisor would take
care of. Part time staff are assisting. Beginning in August, there will be a
manager and or Deputy Director over there on a daily basis to continue
that then in September one of the full time employees will be over there
until the staffing study is complete. It is his hope that this will be
completed in September/October so that we can be sure we're
appropriately staffed for what we need today. Until then it makes sense
that we're staffed accordingly.
Mrs. Angelou said that the people that are going to the Senior Center are
feeling that it's going to be closed, and she needs to know that they feel
like the center is there for them. She said Zack is going a great job and
she wants to make sure all of this is happening.
Mr. Barr replied that he thinks it will come in the personnel SOM with
approval for higher pay for camp counselors and lifeguards. He pointed
out a news story over the past weekend where the YMCA had to close
some pools because there weren't enough lifeguards to supply adequate
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pool coverage. He said he was asked about opening the pools for free
with the heat and said that his decision was no because of the risk of not
having staffing. He said that is why he looking forward to the study to
make sure that we are competitive.
Mrs. Angelou said we need to be conservative in what we do but we
need to make sure people know why we do what we do. She said that
she thinks the money will come in clearly and that will make us feel safe in
what we're doing and that 2020 will be great.
Mr. Barr said that 2020 should show more programing that will show
more revenue in the black.
Mr. Renner asked Mr. Leeseberg and Mr. Schnetzer about the sidewalk
discussion from Finance Committee and what the next step was.
Mr. Leeseberg replied that we were going to look at other programs I
believe and come back to finance. He said that in the CNA there was
$600,000 per year ** to replace all of those sidewalks looks like we're
just paying for that as opposed to just funding. You (referring to Mr.
Schnetzer), were looking at a zero percent loan that gets paid back right?
Yeah, so it looks like just a $600,000 year outlay with with no** repayment
process or not.
Mr. Schnetzer replied that you ask if there was an action item, there really
is not, the point of bringing it forward was just to kind of take the
temperature of Council to see if they wanted to explore this further and to
see if the administration if they would take it under advisement and get
their input and I believe where we left off is they were going to discuss a
timeline internally before committing to bringing something back to us at
a specific date.
Mayor Kneeland said he discussed this topic with Mr. Crawford to make
it a whole topic over time, Westerville was used as the model and the
reason that the money is shown in the budget is because of modeling it
after Westerville. A plan for curbs and sidewalks modeled after
Westerville will be discussed hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
Including a discussion on what they did before and what they do now.
We didn't want to not get something in the budget so we could have a
conversation about what the program could look like.
MR-0030-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER APPROPRIATIONS BETWEEN
ACCOUNTS.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
MR-0031-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER APPROPRIATIONS FROM
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO THE
MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0077-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Heil Drive Bridge Grant
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RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0078-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Severance Payments
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-0079-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Severance Payments
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
F. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
ORD-0080-2019 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS AND
AGREEMENTS WITH VENDORS FOR ADMINISTRATION OF THE
CITY'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND DRUG TESTING POLICIES THAT IS
PROPERLY APPROPRIATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS; AND
DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
G. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-0081-2019 AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE CITY OF GAHANNA
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
Aaron Domini from OHM Advisors presented the Gahanna Land Use
Plan 2019.
For Presentation details see https://www.gahannalanduseplan.com/
Mrs. McGregor asked if any consideration was given to affordable
housing, like smaller homes on smaller lots. She said there are some
areas that turn over very fast.
Mr. Domini stated that the idea of creating a mix of housing types that
some might be more affordable would not be in the detached form.
There is a lot of that detached family housing. This plan didn't drive to
create more of that. He described conservation developments that would
have smaller lots clustered together but that was not the focus.
Mr. Renner stated that he was happy to have one plan as a guide. He
said that because of the conflicting data, it is a good start. He asked
about traffic and is there a statement over all statement about traffic?
Mr. Domini said that sometimes when they do these projects, they're
done in conjunction with a thoroughfare plan. An example of that is what
they are doing in Upper Arlington on Lane Avenue. They are concerned
with what is happening on west campus. So there is a pretty detailed
study of how we align those things. He said he didn't feel there was a
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broad brush statement on traffic in the report. He continued that if we did
something like that, it could be a statement making sure that mobility and
land use decisions are both considered in alignment and that could be a
good addition because there isn't a direct statement.
Mr. Jones said that there are some focus areas along some corridors
that redevelopment should minimize access points along Hamilton road
in order to control traffic flow and the impact of dense developments kind
of like we did at the Shops at Rocky Fork. So it is requiring connectivity
internally to the site minimizing out access points there.
RECOMMENDATION: Public Hearing.
H. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 9:14 p.m.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Vice President, Chair
Brian Metzbower, President
Jamie Leeseberg
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Nancy R. McGregor
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 22, 2019 7:00 PM Council Committee Room
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
2019-0097 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: #84786050005 101 Mill Street, Suite B105,
Stadium Sports Bar; Economic Development Transfer (TREX) for D1
Permit
C. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
2019-0095 Update From the Director of Public Safety
D. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
2019-0096 Update from the Director of Public Service & Engineering.
MR-0032-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
SERVICE TO BID THE JANITORIAL SERVICES CONTRACT.
MR-0033-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
SERVICE & ENGINEERING TO BID THE MUNICIPAL LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
ORD-0072-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Damage to City Property
ORD-0073-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS - Water Meter Proceeds
ORD-0074-2019 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
CARGILL FOR ROAD SALT FOR THE 2019-2020 WINTER SEASON.
City of Gahanna Page 1 Printed on 7/22/2019
Committee of the Whole Meeting Agenda July 22, 2019
ORD-0075-2019 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF GAHANNA
OHIO: Amending Chapter 1303.02 Amendments to Code of Part Thirteen
Building Code
ORD-0076-2019 TO AMEND THE BUILDING AND ZONING FEE SCHEDULE.
E. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
2019-0094 Capital Needs Assessment 2020 to 2024
MR-0030-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER APPROPRIATIONS BETWEEN
ACCOUNTS.
MR-0031-2019 MOTION RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER APPROPRIATIONS FROM
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO THE
MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT
ORD-0077-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Heil Drive Bridge Grant
ORD-0078-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Severance Payments
ORD-0079-2019 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION - Severance Payments
F. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
ORD-0080-2019 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS AND
AGREEMENTS WITH VENDORS FOR ADMINISTRATION OF THE
CITY'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND DRUG TESTING POLICIES THAT IS
PROPERLY APPROPRIATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS; AND
DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
G. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-0081-2019 AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE CITY OF GAHANNA
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
H. Adjournment
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