Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · February 24, 2020
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 24, 2020 7:00 PM Council Committee Room
CALL TO ORDER
Chair of the Committee of the Whole called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
with all members in attendance.
A. DISCUSSION FOR COMMITTEE
Establishing a Fee for Electric Vehicle Charging Stations
Mrs. McGregor asked committee members about establishment of a fee
for the electric vehicle charging stations.
Mr. Crawford shared with Committee that the grant was for 5 charging
stations and through research, he found that in the central Ohio area,
there are no municipalities that currently charge for the electric vehicle
charging stations. The City has a desire to promote green infrastructure-
storm detention, LED streetlights, street improvements and electric
vehicle charging stations, and in conjunction with sustainable 2050, this
is one of those check marks. Adding these stations will help make
Gahanna a destination. Adding these stations within the City makes it
possible for EV owners to stop here, shop, get a bite to eat, golf at the
municipal golf course... it promotes development and green initiatives.
Cost wise, we made an assumption that EV will be charged 3 hours per
pay on each unit for 365 days. Using that generous assumption, it came
out to a total price of about $5,700 to $7,500 per year of electric cost.
Other green initiatives are installing the LED streetlights and the energy
savings of about $7,000 could cover the electrical cost associated with
these EV stations. The assumption of 3 hours a day on all stations all
year is extremely generous and we look forward to gathering additional
data once they're installed to verify the usage. We propose that we stay
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in line with surrounding communities and not charge for the EV stations
at least until we have further data.
Mrs. McGregor asked if these were for hybrid cars for fully electric cars?
Mr. Renner said that hybrid cars are a different category. These are for
anything that has a battery that requires a plug. We talk about and
deliberate on the topic of how to draw and attract more people to the city
and there is a growing demographic of people who drive electric cars
and they are looking for places to plug in. An EV driver’s best friend is
an ap called plugshare and you do use this quite a bit to plan where you
can go and your range. Easton has over 10 chargers for free to hook up
and they also understand fully the idea of providing these for their
shoppers. You also hit on the sustainability 2050 which is a MORPC
goal.
Ms. Bowers asked if we have an idea of how many electric vehicles are
in Gahanna.
Mayor Jadwin replied that there is no way for us to trace that at this point.
The station at Creekside is an older model that doesn’t allow us to track.
The new models will have a mechanism where we can track how often
they’re used and how long they’re charging.
Ms. Bowers asked if Tesla is aggregating purchases based upon zip
code.
Mayor Jadwin replied that she didn’t know.
Mr. Schnetzer said that in researching this a little more, some data he
found, the fuel is the electricity. What isn’t covered as part of the grant is
the ongoing operating cost of the charging facility. He said that the
assessment of $6-7,000 a year may be a nominal sum, his question is of
fairness. It is essentially free fuel. Whether other communities are doing
it or not isn’t a good excuse to guide our practices. Who are these
purchasers- an article from CNBC in October of 2019 included a chart
titled Affluent Buyers Still Dominate the EV Market, the takeaway, one
of the captions says that 70% of electric vehicle buyers have incomes
greater than $100,000 and I believe almost half were greater than
$150,000. The top selling electric vehicle, and top selling in 2019 was
Tesla model S which starts at a base price of almost $40,000 for the
standard version, the long range version is almost $50,000 and the
performance version is $57,000. Furthermore there are other vehicles
out there that have an electric option, which adds significant cost.
Example, the Volvo XC 90 SUV, the electric hybrid of that model is
$12,000 more than the next highest trim level and $25,000 more than the
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base trim. The point I’m trying to make is $2.50 -$3.00, to charge up
your car is probably not a significant cost to the typical buyer of electric
vehicles. It’s just difficult to justify tax payer funded fuel. There is no
electric vehicle option for a cargo van. From a fairness side, it just
seems fair that there be some sort of charge for the fuel as opposed to
being completely funded by Gahanna Tax payers.
Ms. Bowers shared that it appears that since January of 2017 projected
through the end of this quarter, the sales in the 7 county Columbus region
approximate 4,000 vehicles according to Columbus CEO.
Mr. Leeseberg asked new sales or total sales.
Ms. Bowers replied new sales.
Mrs. McGregor asked when they will be installed.
Mr. Crawford said within the next 2-3 months they will be completed.
Mrs. McGregor asked if there is a way to set up to charge for the service.
Mr. Crawford replied that yes, we would have to update our code to allow
us to charge, but there is a software embedded in the devices that would
allow us to charge at any time any rate we want to set.
Mr. Larick asked how specific the data is that can be pulled from the unit.
Mr. Crawford replied that he is unsure.
Mr. Renner asked if there are any violation in the AEP Grant if we did
charge.
Mr. Crawford replied that there is no violation.
Mrs. McGregor said she agreed with Mr. Schnetzer that it doesn’t make
sense to not charge.
Mr. Renner said that he wanted to remind that there is a broader mission:
MORPC sustainability 2050, and that we would be the only municipality in
Franklin County that would charge, and that we deliberate about how to
attract certain demographics to the city to spend money here and here is
an obvious one that is very low cost, why not?
Mr. Larick said that adding free resources is not a value add in any way
that should be considered part of a reason to have a tax issue.
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Mr. Renner said we talked about park fees to have revenue. Now we
have revenue, we’re lowering the cost. If we’re serious as a city to
attract individuals from the region to come here and spend money, we
should be considering what other communities across the region have
already deliberated.
Mr. Leeseberg said that many of our neighbors have parking meters and
charge for their parking garage and those kind of things and it doesn’t
keep people from going there. If we have the attractions and reasons to
come here, they’re going to use it. He added that the gas tax that came
out was not enough, and don’t be surprised when another one comes
through. He doesn’t see a reason to not charge.
Ms. Bowers asked about a compromise- could we charge for the
stations at the parks but where we’re looking at the destination areas,
those charging stations could be complimentary.
Mrs. McGregor asked what locations are they being installed.
Mr. Crawford replied 2 at Friendship Park, 2 at the Golf Course, 2 at
Hannah Park, 2 at City Hall and 1 at the Municipal Lot at Town and High.
(1 unit, 2 plugs at each site).
Mr. Schnetzer asked what the potential electrical cost would be per
vehicle.
Mr. Crawford said our kwh price is 6 cents. It’s hard to estimate what
each vehicle would charge because you don’t know how much they want
to fill up. The best number they could come up with was the 3 hours per
day every day vs. trying to define per vehicle.
Mr. Schnetzer said the data supports that by and large the Teslas are up
on the higher end of the scale, if it is $2.64 to charge up one of these
vehicles, it isn’t viewed as a material cost to the owner. From a Council
perspective, for people in the surrounding county metro, to be provided
with free fuel at the expense of Gahanna residents that may not have the
option to buy one of those, it’s just a tough sell. It’s a fairness issue.
Mr. Larick said that the first all-electric fueling station was established in
Maryland in third quarter 2019. Federally or state grant funded, but it’s a
privately owned enterprise. It says a 200 kwh charging station will charge
EVs to 80% capacity in 15-30 minutes at that point it slows down, but that
charge is $5.10 at their retail charges.
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Mr. Leeseberg said that in regards to Easton, the stores pay rent to
Easton, the customers pay, which pays rent which covers the services
which they provide. So the comparison to Easton isn’t fair.
Ms. Bowers said that folks with a higher disposable income to buy the
vehicles referenced do typically spend more when they go out to eat,
shop, that kind of thing. So to be clear, these are real dollars for our local
businesses.
Mrs. McGregor said if you’re out and about and you’re low on gas you fill
it up. If you have to plug in your car and you pay 3 or 4 bucks or 2
dollars, whatever, it doesn’t seem like it would be an impediment to
going somewhere because you had to pay for your gas/charge. Is there
still time to decide on this?
Mr. Crawford replied that no, but if they want this in place before the first
unit is active, they need to speak sooner about it because we’ll have to
look at updating code. Could install it and see in a month what kind of
usage and decide later on, we can do whatever we want with these.
There are no deadlines.
Mr. Leeseberg said we would love to have some data.
Mrs. Angelou asked how they would pay.
Mr. Crawford replied that it’s through an ap.
Mr. Renner said there is one called charge point, you have an account
and a card with an RFID chip that you waive to enable, and charge point
is one of many.
Mr. Crawford said the one at Creekside does not charge and cannot be
made to charge.
Mr. Larick asked what the highest performing charging station could be.
Mr. Renner replied that the super chargers are at 80-100 but the level 3
or fast chargers are pushing out between 50 and 58 and the L2s depend.
Every car has its own charger in it to limit the draw of the amp into the
battery. Most EV cars are about 32 amps so will pull close to 7 kw. The
Tesla are different and pull much higher.
Mrs. McGregor asked if she checked with Reynoldsburg, she thought
they were going to charge.
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Mr. Crawford said no, they were not on the plug share ap.
Mr. Schnetzer said he thought the minimum objective would be cost
recovery.
Mrs. McGregor said that discussion would be continued later.
B. ITEM FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-024-2020 ORDINANCE TO GRANT A VARIANCE APPLICATION TO VARY
SECTIONS 1107.01(d) - Required Improvements & 1108.01 (f) - General
Requirements, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA TO DELAY THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALK
CONSTRUCTION; FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT BUCKLES COURT;
PARCEL ID 025-013773 & 025-013760 CURRENT ZONING: SELECT
COMMERCIAL PLANNED DISTRICT (SCPD); LORETO CANINI.
Mr. Blackford shared his variance request. The presentation is attached
to the minutes.
Mr. Leeseberg said that this is typically put in for subdivisions to allow
people to walk around subdivisions as they are being built. This is a
more commercial development and the overall plan will have trails and
there will be opportunity for that. We also don't know where the utilities
are going to go so we don't want to see sidewalks going in only to be
busted up. He supports the variance.
Mr. Schnetzer said it seems logical. His question is- is there a way that
this variance could get lost in the mix. Who ensures that it is completed?
Mr. Blackford replied that it would require that as the properties develop,
current rules say they require pedestrian facilities, it would take another
variance to state that they don't require them. So even with the variance
says it has to be done, this just delays the construction of the pedestrian
facilities.
Mrs. McGregor asked what kind of sidewalk is required to go in there.
Mr. Blackford said it would be traditional sidewalk on one side, multi-use
path on the opposite.
Mr. Renner said he fully supported this variance request.
Mrs. Angelou asked about assigning a time frame in which it needs to be
completed.
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Mr. Blackford replied that it would require to be completed before the
certificate of occupancy is issued.
Mrs. McGregor asked about what if there is a gap in the properties, if all
but one property in the middle are developed.
Mr. Blackford said they don't have a mechanism to address that.
Ms. Bowers asked if the variance could be amended so it didn't have to
restart through the process.
Mr. Mularski said you have to either accept it or it could be sent back to
Planning Commission. But it just says delay, it doesn't lay out what
triggers the requirements. So the Zoning or Planning Commission, could
require it to be built, not that it only has to be built as each house is built.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-025-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AMENDED AGREEMENT WITH CALFEE STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS,
LLC., DBA CALFEE ZONING FOR PROFESSIONAL ZONING CODE
REWRITE SERVICES; WAIVING SECOND READING AND
DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Mr. Blackford presented his request to contract with Calfee Zoning to
begin a re-write of portions of the Zoning Code. Presentation is
attached to the minutes.
He explained that the funds are budgeted for this process and ultimately
there will be public participation and both Planning Commission and
Council will be involved.
Mr. Leeseberg said that design guidelines just set the rules. If we don't
have rules, everything is allowable and we can't rule against it. So he is
glad it is moving forward.
Mrs. Angelou asked what the cost was.
Mayor Jadwin said $65,000 at most for this portion.
Mr. Blackford agreed. There will be another phase (addressing the rest
of the Planning & Zoning Code).
Mayor Jadwin added that back in the fall with public hearings for Mill
Street, the number of times we heard residents coming forward saying it
doesn't look like Gahanna, I don't like it. The problem is we don't have a
way to tell developers what it should look like and there are more projects
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coming so the sooner this is in place, the sooner we can avoid these
comments. Mr. McDonald from One Columbus made a comment on this
topic that the number one thing is certainty, they want to know what to
expect.
Mrs. Angelou asked about permitting, are we going to talk about moving
permitting ahead so people don't have to wait 3 months for their permits,
is this part of that?
Mr. Blackford said there are a lot of variables there with what is
submitted. There are different processes that have different timelines.
But that is a goal. Consistency, reflective of what the community wants
and realistic.
Ms. Bowers asked how was Calfee selected and what is our process for
selecting a vendor in this way.
Mr. Blackford replied that we have worked with them in the past and
currently have an open purchase order with them for this phase. Not
many other folks write zoning code. Calfee is by far and away the best
and most suited to do this in a timely and effective manner. I feel they are
the best and what the city needs for this project.
Ms. Bowers asked if they were already familiar with our zoning code and
land use plan.
Mr. Blackford replied that they are.
Ms. Bowers asked if he felt that the estimate was fair.
Mr. Blackford replied that there will be public outreach sessions involved
and public meetings and that he felt it was appropriate for the level of
involvement.
Ms. Bowers asked for it to be placed on the regular agenda vs. the
consent because of the emergency request.
Mrs. McGregor asked the Mayor if she had any reports.
Mayor Jadwin replied that they extended an offer which was accepted
today for a Marketing Manager and to a Safety Director those will be
announted shortly pending background checks. Over the last 2 weeks
we've filled 11 different positions and those will be announced in the next
few days. We are moving forward. There is a lot to do and a lot to catch
up on.
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Meeting concluded at 8:12 p.m.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
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City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 24, 2020 7:00 PM Council Committee Room
CALL TO ORDER
A. DISCUSSION FOR COMMITTEE
Establishing a Fee for Electric Vehicle Charging Stations
B. ITEM FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-024-2020 ORDINANCE TO GRANT A VARIANCE APPLICATION TO VARY
SECTIONS 1107.01(d) - Required Improvements & 1108.01 (f) - General
Requirements, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA TO DELAY THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALK
CONSTRUCTION; FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT BUCKLES COURT;
PARCEL ID 025-013773 & 025-013760 CURRENT ZONING: SELECT
COMMERCIAL PLANNED DISTRICT (SCPD); LORETO CANINI;
APPLICANT.
ORD-025-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN
AMENDED AGREEMENT WITH CALFEE STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS,
LLC., DBA CALFEE ZONING FOR PROFESSIONAL ZONING CODE
REWRITE SERVICES; WAIVING SECOND READING AND DECLARING
IT AN EMERGENCY.
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