Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · February 8, 2021
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Monday, February 8, 2021 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Meeting Call-in Details:
513-306-4583
Conference ID: 599 324 380#
A. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Nancy McGregor called the Committee of the Whole meeting to order at
7:00 p.m. All members were in attendance.
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. ITEMS REFERRED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION
a. ORD-086-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY
OF GAHANNA ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 198-96 ON NOVEMBER
19, 1996 AND AS SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED: Changing the Zoning
District of a 17.90 +/- acre parcel located off of Hamilton Road PID#
025-013767 from Select Commercial Planned District; to Limited
Multi-Family Residential Development; Larry Canini, applicant.
Mayor Jadwin gave an introduction and review of the legislation
presented. The proposal is to rezone 14.4 acres of a 100+ acre parcel
from commercial to multi-family residential. She outlined the timeline of
the legislation to date. There have been revisions to the original foot print
and requests to restrict the residential component as of the last
committee meeting.
Ms. Syx stated that this is a multi-faceted process and that the issue
before Council is for rezoning. There isn't a Development agreement yet,
but the developer has offered to deed restrict 4 acres of the commercial
property for only office use. There will be a deed restriction for 40 years
to prohibit the development of residential property.
Yazan Sahrawi, Attorney, Frost Brown Todd said that everything he has
seen thus far is normal in how they proceed. He has looked at some of
the larger issues about the development and says that the restriction on
further development on the larger portion of the property he feels has
been addressed in the deed restriction. Some of the incentives that
could be in play (CRA, TIF), those are all useful tools for the toolbox of the
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city but are yet to be finalized. This rezoning is the domino that puts
some of those issues in place. He offered to be of service to the city on
this matter.
Mr. Blackford said that there will be a public hearing on this topic
February 15th and a subsequent vote is scheduled. There is a
companion piece of legislation with a variance. There is a final
development plan and design review that will have to go through Planning
Commission as well.
Mr. Underhill, attorney for the applicant presented documents and asked
Mr. Blackford to present about the parkland dedication.
Mr. Blackford stated that as part of the variance application review
process, Parks & Recreation department was in favor of the offsite 34
acres for park space vs. the 3 acres.
Mr. Underhill presented documentation that shared that a deed restriction
would be in place for 40 years that would prohibit further multi family,
senior living and single-family residential development. The presentation
is attached to the legislative file in the minutes.
Ms. Six said that these are all conceptual numbers, scenarios that they
are still currently running.
Mrs. Angelou asked for information on the new community authority.
Mr. Underhill said that new community authorities have been used in
many communities. They require the current and all future owners to pay
the charges. There is a board that ensures that payments are compliant
with state law. They're often 7 member boards that have regular
meetings. The funds can be spent on public infrastructure, public park
land... it's been used successfully in New Albany. They can include an
extra sales tax that could be done.
Mr. Larick asked to clarify that NCA funds can be used for property
acquisition.
Mr. Underhill said yes.
Mr. Canini wanted to clarify that the parkland was 34.6 acres and that the
sales tax stream is one that the Tanger outlets uses as an example.
Mr. Hodge said that after the last discussion, concerns raised by Mr.
Schnetzer, he wanted to make sure we have value enhancing
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propositions and that's the purpose of introducing this concept of the
deed restriction.
Mr. Ashrawi said that the benefit to the city is that it creates some
revenue through income tax and some new infrastructure. The purpose
of this rezoning piece of these 14 acres is just the first piece of the
puzzle.
Mr. Schnetzer thanked the presenters, staff and applicants. His
remaining concerns are around the abatement of the residential housing
component. The compensation agreement is complicated. Since this is
residential housing and there is limited income tax generated, where will
the income to the school come from and could this end up being a net
loss to the city.
Ms. Six said this is a non-school TIF so there is no risk to the school for
losing out on what they otherwise would have received had there been no
abatement in place. They would have to look at the numbers for the CRA.
She hasn't seen the numbers so cannot weigh in on that.
Mr. Underhill stated that it would be a 50/50 sharing of income taxes to
be applied to a minimum payment required every year during the
abatement which is equal to 50% of the abated school taxes.
Mr. Schnetzer so if the school is due $100 of the abated value, they
would be due $50, and that money would come from different buckets.
Mr. Underhill explained the income tax abatement (see minute 39:00 of
the meeting video).
Mr. Schnetzer asked about the future use of the remaining acreage apart
from the requested rezone area. He seeks assurance that future
development that is being pitched, that they will occur. Is there a way to
structure an agreement that if those future uses don't occur, there is a
forfeiture of the incentive, and if so, how amenable are the parties to that.
Mr. Ashrawi said that the way he reads the CRA, it entitles any property
owner meets certain minimun thresholds to an 80% tax abatement. The
best way to control land development is through zoning and deed
restrictions and covenants on property. Incentives tied to future
developments could in theory be a part of a larger development
agreement but he doesn't know that it's common or best practice.
Ms. Syx said that if the development doesn't occur, the developer doesn't
get the incentive.
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Mr. Schnetzer said that the catch is we have to take a leap of faith but we
don't know what the future holds and we have a potential misalignment of
interest.
Mr. Underhill said that the great thing is the community partner in Mr.
Canini and he wants to do the right thing for the city, which may seem like
a hollow promise. Given that this property has been here for 30 years
and hasn't seen anything happen, it seems worth the risk to provide a bit
of a jump start here and if not, the city isn't out anything.
Mr. Leeseberg said to sit here and ask for guarantees for development,
you can't get guarantees and to put that on a development is ridiculous.
They are limiting the amount of residential for 40 years. This is a zoning
issue and we are beating this horse to death.
Mrs. Angelou said that she has been waiting for this project to move
forward. The longer we wait the less comfortable people get. Mr. Canini
has been here for quite some time and she hasn't seen a bad product
that he has worked on. It is time to move on.
Mr. Schnetzer said that his concerns aren't unreasonable. He wants
comfort that the applicant will carry forward their own proposal in light of
the fact that we are in a pandemic. Taking a leap of faith is an abdicating
of the fiduciary duty to the city. He doesn't feel that this question has been
answered.
Ms. Bowers asked for the administration's take on the approaches on the
way development pursued. Where infrastructure is built with a
development in mind, or development in which we hope to get what we
want later. Some information on development theory and how this model
is right for us. Next, what is the cost to the city, there are concerns about
the line item cost with the school compensation agreement. The school
will be owed 50% of the tax value after the development is completed.
She asked for line item clarification.
Ms. Syx replied that back in the day cities took a risk and spent millions
of dollars of their own building infrastructure that didn't suit development-
if the build it, they will come. Cities today have become more
sophisticated in their private public partnerships because the burden
should not be borne solely by the cities. The reason for the private public
partnerships is so that development can be done more quickly. The city
has to provide some subsidies to help offset the high costs of
development and get what it wants.
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Mrs. McGregor asked if there is a way that the parkland be transferred by
a date certain.
Mr. Canini said that there is an agreement on file with the city that made
an agreement with multiple commitments several years ago. The
Buckles family hired him in 2017-2018 to address the uses of this over all
site. That gave them the ability to move ahead with the first phase of the
project which was building Buckles Ct N. The goal was to have all of this,
the zoning completed by the end of 2020, but they didn't make the goal.
There are no qualms with this variance change requiring the transfer.
Ms. Bowers said she wanted to reiterate that these questions are being
asked to make sure that they are doing their due diligence. They aren't
meant to be hostile, they're meant to be probing.
Mayor Jadwin said we all want to make sure that this property is invested
in the best way possible for the city. This Developer has offered to put
deed restrictions in place, the only other way to regulate is with zoning.
Everybody has done the best they can on this project.
Mr. Schnetzer said there was a question he posed earlier about it being
possible and agreeable to have a financial linkage to future performance.
Example would be claw back of TIF revenue if there isn't performance of
the project as proposed. There hasn't been an answer.
Mr. Mularski said we could look into it, but it hasn't been seen before.
They key is, no matter what we put in this, it can always be changed in the
future, by a future Council. There are no guarantees other than it's
already zoned the way we want it zoned.
Mr. Canini said that ultimately he would need to convene with Mr. and
Mrs. Buckles. He wanted to remind everyone that they waited on the
updated comprehensive plan before moving forward. They've limited the
property to office and professional use. The Buckles family put up the
money for the infrastructure to the tune of over a million dollars. No one
was concerned about that until apartments were mentioned. You have to
be able to provide for housing employees.
Mr. Schnetzer said that the property owner is free to develop this property
in the manner in which it is zoned, he just doesn't want to have this
rezoning pigeonhole us into something that is unintended. He thanked
the participants.
Public hearing is scheduled for February 15.
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b. ORD-085-2020 ORDINANCE TO GRANT A VARIANCE APPLICATION TO VARY
SECTION 1109.08 - PUBLIC AREAS, OF THE CODIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED OFF HAMILTON ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-013767,
CURRENT ZONING SELECT COMMERCIAL PLANNED DISTRICT;
PROPOSED ZONING LIMITED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT; CRESCENT AT CENTRAL PARK; LARRY CANINI,
APPLICANT.
Item referred to public hearing and Second reading/Adoption.
2. ITEMS FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
a. 2021-0021 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 8995515 1330 N. Hamilton Road; Tora
LLC
No objections to the liquor permit.
b. 2021-0022 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 3601152 210 Granville Street; Hare Ram
Hare Krishna LLC, TF
No objections to the liquor permit.
c. MT-0008-2021 MOTION TO APPOINT ANNUAL MEMBERS TO THE VOLUNTEER
PEACE OFFICERS' DEPENDENCY FUND (VPODF) BOARD
PURSUANT TO ORC 143.02 (1).
The Clerk of Council presented the request to appoint two members to
the board.
Mr. Larick said he would take a look and by the following Council
meeting he would provide names for Council to approve.
Mrs. McGregor said that she had the password that she will pass along.
Mr. Larick said he would come up with two individuals to put forward.
Mr. Mularski said it did not have to be Council members, it just has in the
past.
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d. ORD-0006-2021 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO
AGREEMENT WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF
ELECTIONS FOR USE OF CITY PROPERTY AS POLLING
LOCATIONS FOR THE YEAR 2021.
The Clerk of Council presented the legislation. Report is attached.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
3. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION
a. MT-0006-2021 MOTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND
RECREATION TO BID THE INSTALLATION OF A SPLASH PAD AT
GAHANNA SWIMMING POOL.
The Parks and Recreation Director presented her legislation. The report
is attached.
Mr. Larick asked if it was a permission to bid and then a contract comes
afterward.
Mrs. Bernard Ferrell replied yes.
Mrs. McGregor asked where the location was.
Mrs. Bernard Ferrell replied that it would be at the front end of the
property by the pool house so it will be fenced off and be part of the pool
during summer hours. It would be next to the concession stand is-
between the basketball court and concession stand.
Mr. Leeseberg asked about it being in the fenced area. When and how
will it be open during the off hours.
Mrs. Bernard Ferrell said there will be a separate entrance. Once the
hours were exhausted, the gate would be closed.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
b. RES-0004-2021 A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS &
RECREATION 2021 PRICING POLICY AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
Mrs. Bernard Ferrell presented her legislation. The report is attached.
Mr. Larick asked this is the policy over the structure of how the policy is
established not the pricing itself?
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Mrs. Bernard Ferrell replied correct.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
4. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
a. RES-0005-2021 A RESOLUTION SETTING FEES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING STATIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING AS PER CHAPTER 949 OF
GAHANNA CODIFIED ORDINANCES.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislative request. The report is attached.
Mrs. McGregor asked where the charging stations were.
Mr. Crawford replied Friendship Park, Hannah Park, Golf Course, there
will be one at City Hall and at Creekside. There is one in the garage but
it is not part of this program.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
Meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
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200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Monday, February 8, 2021 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Meeting Call-in Details:
513-306-4583
Conference ID: 599 324 380#
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. ITEMS REFERRED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION
a. ORD-086-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 198-96 ON NOVEMBER 19,
1996 AND AS SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED: Changing the Zoning
District of a 17.90 +/- acre parcel located off of Hamilton Road PID#
025-013767 from Select Commercial Planned District; to Limited
Multi-Family Residential Development; Larry Canini, applicant.
-Introduced 10/19/2020; Public Hearing scheduled 2/15/2021
b. ORD-085-2020 ORDINANCE TO GRANT A VARIANCE APPLICATION TO VARY
SECTION 1109.08 - PUBLIC AREAS, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES
OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED OFF
HAMILTON ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-013767, CURRENT ZONING
SELECT COMMERCIAL PLANNED DISTRICT; PROPOSED ZONING
LIMITED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT; CRESCENT
AT CENTRAL PARK; LARRY CANINI, APPLICANT.
-Introduced 10/19/2020; Public Hearing scheduled 2/15/2021
2. ITEMS FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
a. 2021-0021 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 8995515 1330 N. Hamilton Road; Tora LLC
b. 2021-0022 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 3601152 210 Granville Street; Hare Ram
Hare Krishna LLC, TF
c. MT-0008-2021 MOTION TO APPOINT ANNUAL MEMBERS TO THE VOLUNTEER
PEACE OFFICERS' DEPENDENCY FUND (VPODF) BOARD
PURSUANT TO ORC 143.02 (1).
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d. ORD-0006-2021 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO
AGREEMENT WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS
FOR USE OF CITY PROPERTY AS POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE
YEAR 2021.
3. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION
a. MT-0006-2021 MOTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND
RECREATION TO BID THE INSTALLATION OF A SPLASH PAD AT
GAHANNA SWIMMING POOL.
b. RES-0004-2021 A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS &
RECREATION 2021 PRICING POLICY AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
4. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
a. RES-0005-2021 A RESOLUTION SETTING FEES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
SERVICE & ENGINEERING AS PER CHAPTER 949 OF GAHANNA
CODIFIED ORDINANCES.
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