Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · April 12, 2021
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Krystal Gonchar, MPA, Clerk of Council
Monday, April 12, 2021 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Meeting call-in details:
Tel 513-306-4583, Conf. ID No. 718 031 450#
* Due to technical issues, no audio is available for the video recording in
Legistar.
A. CALL TO ORDER
Chair McGregor called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
B. DISCUSSIONS
ITEMS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT:
ORD-0022-2021 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH TAYLOR
INDUSTRIAL PARK, LLC, FOR TAX ABATEMENT FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 6579 TAYLOR ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-000008;
PART OF COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA #1.
Mayor Jadwin announced that Nathan Strum has accepted the position of
Director of Economic Development, to fill the vacancy left by Donna
Goss, who left to pursue work at The Ohio State University. Strum will be
joining the city in May but was invited to attend the committee meeting
tonight. Strum has served as the Executive Director for Grow Licking
County for the past 5 years; prior to that he worked in the development
field in Pittsburgh; has been doing a phenomenal job in Licking County;
he is also the President of the Mid-Ohio Development Exchange and well
connected in the Columbus region; excited to have him join our team.
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Jennifer Syx, Interim Director of Economic Development, provided a
summary of the Report to Council (see attached): stated that this request
is from Robert LeVeck; this project is for approximately 193,000 sq.ft. of
flex office and warehouse space; the developer is currently planning to
build these on spec but the city receives frequent calls and interest in this
type of development; this will not be speculative for much longer;
requesting 100% for 10 years for tax abatement relief and property tax
improvement; the city will share 50% of income tax generated by the
development; will bring in 65 full-time positions and estimated payroll of
$3.6M; LeVeck has already began working with Planning; talks of
constructing additional buildings on that site; this is a very popular
prototype. LeVeck stated that we are excited to continue progress off
Taylor Road; almost completely full; just a few small units left; happy to be
creating additional jobs.
Bowers said last year we talked a little bit about a road plan about
expectations set for properties that would receive abatements; things
such as green or LEED sustainable certified; asked if they can give us
insight into those types of green initiatives that will come along with this
development. Syx said last year the city instituted a Clean Energy
Initiative, which allows for more energy efficient measures to be installed
in new buildings but also to renovate existing structures; also talked
about walkability and pedestrian friendly; there is some connectivity now;
looking at traffic control measures out there as well; will see more
formality on those measures this year.
Council discussed the location of the site, and LeVeck clarified that
there's still 5 acres on the corner, that this would sit closer to the west but
will have a secondary entrance off Eastgate Pkwy. McGregor asked if
that 5-acre parcel is the property left to the city, left in Junkermann's will .
LeVeck said no, that's located somewhere else nearby; said the drive
will be on the north side.
Recommended for Introduction; Regular Agenda.
ORD-0025-2021 ORDINANCE APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF
A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CRESCENT AT CENTRAL
PARK LLC, CP CRESCENT LLC, AND ANDRE M. BUCKLES, TO
FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIXED USE PROJECT ON
41.0+/- ACRES LOCATED IN THE CITY GENERALLY TO THE SOUTH
AND SOUTHEAST OF AND ADJACENT TO THE INTERSTATE
270-HAMILTON ROAD INTERCHANGE, AND THE DEDICATION OF
34.0+/- ACRES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH THEREOF TO THE CITY
FOR USE AS PARKLAND; WAIVE SECOND READING.
Jadwin explained that this agreement has been months in the making;
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discussions began in October of last year when the rezoning request
went before Council; reviewed impacts to the City and schools; was last
at Committee on 3/22/2021; included is a provision that designates 4
acres to be used as office space only, for the next 7 years; a provision
prohibiting multi-family development for the next 40 years; timing around
the transfer of 34 acres for parkland. Syx recapped the financials,
included in the attached agreement; school will not be impacted by this
TIF; also creates a New Community Authority.
Jadwin said they are requesting a waiver due to the construction window
now opening, so time is limited; no vertical construction is anticipated in
2021, but there's a lot of groundwork that needs to occur before that; will
still have 30 day waiting period as no emergency is requested, but will
allow the developer to lock in construction prices; we are receiving a lot
of interest on this property; the additional growth that will result as part of
this is exciting.
Larick asked about Section 6, regarding the NCA; there is a hard cap of
5 mils as a maximum; don't expect that a max will be used but expects
the max to be at a higher level; mileage will be set by the NCA; would
expect a higher rate; there is a hard stop at 10 years for residential,
would expect renewals if not eliminate altogether those hard stops. Syx
said those can be addressed when NCA moves forward. Larick
concerned about this legislation going forward without those numbers
being changed. Aaron Underhill, attorney for Larry Canini said those
NCAs are voluntary under Ohio Law; client not asking for any of that
money to reimburse infrastructure costs; given where Gahanna is with its
total mileage, once the abatement burns off, adding another 5 mils would
keep this site competitive; have put a lot of thought into these numbers .
Canini said the CRA is not 100% for 10 years, it's 80%; property tax will
still be levied.
Schnetzer asked Syx to clarify that this document is the appropriate
place to discuss reimbursement to the developer. Syx confirmed .
Schnetzer asked if anything in here discusses conditioning the
reimbursement to certain uses. Syx said they took a long hard look at that
request and feels that this project is in line; have not taken any other
restrictions to legal counsel. Schnetzer said he feels misled that those
items were said to be explored and yet are not included; if they want his
support then they know what is required. Jadwin said they spent
substantial hours discussing this and included outside legal counsel; this
is straight forward; there are other ways to address concerns, such as
through zoning. Schnetzer said he believes the record will support that
there were emails and conversations that if we would just pass this then
we could take a look at those items in the future; yet they are now absent
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in the agreement; was led to believe that his asks would be considered
and implemented. Jadwin said there was a provision added, to limit 4
acres to office space only, for a period of 7 years and to restrict
additional multi-family for a period of 40 years; said he wanted additional
measure explored for beyond that period, which was explored. Schnetzer
said all a developer must do is wait out the clock and then build what they
want; concerned with income tax being too low for other uses; two
highest valued uses he can think of are office for income tax and hotel for
bed tax. Jadwin said it would not benefit the developer to sit on the
property for 7 years because he would not get money; markets change;
looking back two years ago, flex space was not a high commodity like it
is today; office space was a premium two years ago and yet not today .
Schnetzer said he does not want to subsidize the lower value options;
that is essentially what they would be doing here with infrastructure; will
not be in support unless there's a claw back provision. Underhill said he
is disappointed that Schnetzer believes there's been a bait and switch;
has gone above and beyond for this project; if there were going to be
some big retail center then it would have gone in by now; that is not
Canini's intent; this is an investment in the area and will be more
attractive for medical office space.
Bowers asked if the deed restriction on multifamily will impact anyone
who owns the property from subsequent development. Underhill
confirmed. Bowers said one of the concerns they had around multifamily
is the issue of how income tax is structured in Gahanna, with 100% credit
for taxes paid outside of Gahanna; without creation of jobs then the
development could create a revenue deficit; the concerns were not meant
to prohibit any residential use, but to prioritize use that would generate
revenue; a 40 year prohibition on multifamily does not address the root
issue. Underhill said they tried to do this because they believed that
council would not support multifamily. Bowers said she appreciated the
effort, but it is perhaps an oversimplification; believes 40 years is a long
time. Jadwin asked what she would like in the agreement. Bowers said
she would like to ensure that the rest of the project be developed the way
it was conceptualized; overall just wants to make sure there are tools that
align our interests; a deed restriction on a future owner 40 years from
now does not align our interests; trying to get to the "why" behind it; there
is a housing shortage in the area. Underhill said the deed restriction was
effective immediately and for 40 years. Bowers confirmed.
Larick said the 40-year restriction is on all of the land west of the
watershed. Underhill confirmed, said they were stacking on top of each
other as it relates to the 4 acres. Larick asked what the value is of the
4-acre restriction. Underhill said for 7 years development is restricted to
office space. Renner asked Jadwin to repeat the reason behind the
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request for a waiver; is apprehensive due to the complexity of the project .
Jadwin reiterated that they have been discussing this project for the past
5-6 months so this is not the first discussion on the topic and due to the
construction season that is now upon us; if no waiver, this would not be
voted on until May. Renner said he is still shaky on the waiver but thanked
her for explaining again.
McGregor commented that as far as the NCA, Council did not ask for
that and the developers did that on their own; no issue with the
parameters set forth; asked about sidewalks and if those are included in
the plan or does that come in further down the road. Underhill said new
streets would include streets, gutter, sidewalks, trees, etc.; that was the
intent; will go before Planning Commission as well and that will be
included. Larick said an NCA is a legislated contracted organization
allowable under Ohio Revised Code; it is not a handout from the
developer; will have resources available to benefit the city and developer;
wants to change the value from 5 mils to 9 mils, but not suggesting the
minimum start out at 9M. Underhill said seats at the table will be
negotiated as well; concerned that the developer would be left to the
whim of the board; doesn't want to inhibit the marketability of the site .
Bowers said to reiterate, her concerns with the deed restrictions are
similar to Larick's; unsure how deed restrictions are terminated; asked
Mr. Ashwari to explain. Ashwari said that deed restrictions can be
terminated the same way they are created; because the city is the
beneficiary, they can at any time remove those by council action .
Underhill confirmed. Larick asked what the path forward is; said that
roughly on a $1M evaluation, the difference between 5 mils and 9 mils is
about $1,200 per million.
Canini said this has been debated for a long time; these discussions
were even part of the rezoning request; does not sense that there's full
support from council; believes there's some confusion about what a TIF is
and where the funds come from; Syx sent out a request for comments
and questions and only one was received; dismayed and angry that this
continues to be debated; asked Underhill to formally withdraw the request
because he does not believe there is any progress being made; losing
money due to not having a definitive date for when sites will be ready;
reminded them that for Buckles Court North, there was no ask for money
for the infrastructure; asked for no TIFs; voluntarily removed SCPD
zoning and made it all office; were looking at the global picture of the
project and looked at how we could be competitive; the city's
development team and my team came up with great ideas and a good
project; cannot continue to put clients through this ever changing process;
at this point would like to withdraw and move forward without any help
from the city.
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Angelou stated that this project is meant to be there; has been going on
for 4 years; this is upsetting that Canini has worked hard on this; now it's
time to move forward; had no questions on this; if we can't trust these
people then we are never going to have anyone do anything on this
property; at one point a Bass Pro Shop was going to go in but that never
went through; everyone around us is moving forward with development; is
ready to vote; wants to move forward; we had questions but they were
answered; does not know if it's possible to address Larick's concern of
raising from 5 mils to 9 mils, but understands that's the best that could be
done; and council never even asked for that money; does not know if
anyone else agrees but most of these have turned out well; let's let Canini
and Underhill get ready for this which will be good for our community.
Renner stated that he understands the anger and frustration of Canini, but
he has not heard of anyone else wanting to kill the project; is for the
project, but just hears questions from his colleagues; asked Schnetzer if
he needs restrictions past the 7 years on those 4 acres. Schnetzer said it
has been a long time coming to get to this point; there are various
concerns out there; appreciates Bowers' statement about alignment; a
superior approach to ensuring highest and best use goes in this area is
not so much about writing in restrictions and prohibiting certain things;
but rather to reserve subsidies for those higher and best uses; the overall
development has been piecemeal in nature. Renner said he appreciates
the response; hopes Canini changes his mind about pulling this; believes
this is the best and highest use for the property.
Leeseberg said he is frustrated; we postponed the public hearing, just to
get to a 6-1 vote; as Angelou mentioned, this has been undeveloped; we
can't guarantee office space for the future given the current state of the
pandemic; office space isn't what it used to be; we have 9 houses for
sale in the entire school district, we need residential; the developer
backed off the residential component per council's request when it's
badly needed in the area; bed tax is also not all that it used to be; those
are minimum wage jobs; it's not just the hotel, but the event center space
as well; we need customers; Creekside struggles because there is no
residential down there making customers; we have all these experts
saying this is the way to go; we have Planning Commission voting 7-0 on
these projects; let's let the experts do their job and get something built in
this town. Bowers said she hears 3 asks; increase the maximum mileage
on NCA; have some clarity on the deed restriction in paragraph 9 on
exhibit c to include that those restrictions can be removed by legislative
action; concerns regarding waiver; just hearing some fine tuning. Canini
does not want to continue to waste resources of the taxpayers; does not
see an end to the asks for adjustments; those should have been asked 5
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weeks ago.
Underhill said he needs to follow the request of his client and withdraw
the request for legislation. McGregor said she has no concern with the
waiver. Leeseberg said they just gave a waiver to their own Parks
Department for playground equipment; this is not unreasonable to ask .
Underhill said unless Canini reconsiders he must pull this. McGregor
asked Canini to reconsider and let us get this to a vote. Jadwin said that
it's unfortunate that Canini got off the call because she wanted to thank
him and would request that he not withdraw; shares his frustration; this
project has been going on for months under this administration; from the
time it was presented Oct. 5, the developer addressed all concerns
brought up; this agreement is about as straight forward as you can get; a
non-school TIF with no impact to them, a new community authority
volunteered by developer, a CRA; this generates income to the city; tries
to assemble a phenomenal development team and yet development is
so difficult in this city; our goals are the same to benefit the residents and
the community; the development community is watching this project; the
last time we had a development of this scale was Creekside; everyone
around us understands the transformative nature of this project; every city
around us is developing; this is a quality project from a developer who is
invested in the city; this agreement gave the city some control over the
development.
McGregor said she is comfortable putting it on the agenda with a waiver .
Leeseberg said he does not believe that can be done unless Canini
agrees. Renner concurs, would like to see this moving forward; let's put it
on first reading if Canini wants to move forward. McGregor said
Creekside had similar disagreements; this is so different from then; even
back then it was a 4-3 vote; this process has been different in that the
developer addressed their concerns. Bowers said there has been great
discussion tonight and agrees that the developer has worked with us;
hopes that Canini reflects on the positives during this process; some of
the questions regarding deed restrictions are new because back a few
weeks ago that was not part of the agreement; these seem like minor
details that have been brought up; wants to remind everyone of the 6-1
vote at the rezoning. Underhill believes the changes are easy to make .
Canini messaged him and said he is good moving forward with
commitment that it will be voted on if you can move forward with the
waiver. Leeseberg said a waiver is important for construction purposes;
if not bidding soon, then you are forced to take the higher bids; if they lost
this construction season, they lose a year. McGregor said they are not
asking for an emergency, just a waiver.
Recommended for Introduction, Waive Second Reading, Adoption on next
Regular Agenda.
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ITEM FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY:
ORD-0024-2021 ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER (SRO) CONTRACT WITH GAHANNA
JEFFERSON PUBLIC SCHOOLS (GJPS) FOR THE 2021-2022
SCHOOL YEAR.
McGregor asked if this is a standard contract that has been done before .
Jadwin confirmed; just an increase in officer costs. Chief Spence said
the city picks up the total cost of the 3rd officer; the contract increase is
little less than 4% for this upcoming school year from last year. McGregor
said this is a great program and hears regularly how good the officers
are.
Recommended for Introduction; Next meeting Consent.
ITEM FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR:
ORD-0023-2021 ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE A SHARED SERVICES AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF GAHANNA AND CITY OF NEW ALBANY FOR
MAYOR'S COURT SERVICES AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
Jadwin said this is a proposed agreement between New Albany and
Gahanna Mayor's courts; these discussions began two years ago under
the previous administration; New Albany would contract with Gahanna for
processing court in our building; we will be responsible for administrative
tasks while New Albany remains ticketing and policing; timing this to go
into effect on July 1 and for a 3 year period. Amanda Parker, Clerk of
Courts explained the logistics; said it would not have much impact on city
hall; would hold Gahanna court during the morning and will have a later
afternoon session for New Albany; will remain on Thursdays only; will not
require additional staffing. Jadwin said that municipalities have been
encouraged to pursue shared services; this is a cutting -edge agreement
and a win-win for both cities.
Angelou asked about the yearly or monthly case load for New Albany .
Parker said they have around 1,100 cases for last year and by
comparison Gahanna had over 4,000. Leeseberg said when we talked
about combining dispatchers we talked about the benefit of sharing staff;
is there some availability for overlap for magistrates. Jadwin said she
believes that would be the case.
Recommended for Introduction; Next meeting Consent with Emergency.
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C. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 8:51 p.m.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Krystal Gonchar, MPA, Clerk of Council
Monday, April 12, 2021 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Meeting call-in details:
Tel 513-306-4583, Conf. ID No. 718 031 450#
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
ITEMS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT:
ORD-0022-2021 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH TAYLOR
INDUSTRIAL PARK, LLC, FOR TAX ABATEMENT FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 6579 TAYLOR ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-000008;
PART OF COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA #1.
ORD-0025-2021 ORDINANCE APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CRESCENT AT CENTRAL PARK
LLC, CP CRESCENT LLC, AND ANDRE M. BUCKLES, TO FACILITATE
THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIXED USE PROJECT ON 41.0+/- ACRES
LOCATED IN THE CITY GENERALLY TO THE SOUTH AND
SOUTHEAST OF AND ADJACENT TO THE INTERSTATE
270-HAMILTON ROAD INTERCHANGE, AND THE DEDICATION OF
34.0+/- ACRES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH THEREOF TO THE CITY
FOR USE AS PARKLAND; WAIVE SECOND READING.
ITEM FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY:
ORD-0024-2021 ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICER (SRO) CONTRACT WITH GAHANNA
JEFFERSON PUBLIC SCHOOLS (GJPS) FOR THE 2021-2022
SCHOOL YEAR.
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ITEM FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR:
ORD-0023-2021 ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE A SHARED SERVICES AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF GAHANNA AND CITY OF NEW ALBANY FOR
MAYOR'S COURT SERVICES AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
C. ADJOURNMENT
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