Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · December 6, 2021
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Krystal Gonchar, MPA, Clerk of Council
Monday, December 6, 2021 6:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER
Vice President of Council Nancy McGregor called the meeting to order at
6:00 p.m.
B. DISCUSSIONS
ORD-0086-2021 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS
FOR THE MILL STREET APARTMENTS.
Joe McCabe from Metropolitan Holdings development team presented
the attached slide show to Council. The new design is residential only.
The design has been updated to include more masonry and to increase
vehicle views; propose widening Wilson Alley and vacating North St.;
discussed demographics in the region; the market area is expected to
grow by 3,000 residents in the next 20 years; the average age is 33;
credit card debt is low for this demographic and desirable; developers
are targeting bright young professionals, representing 22% of market
and of that, 22% are renters and enjoy eating out and spending time
outdoors; metro renters are another targeted demographic, who seek out
retail experiences; savvy suburbanite, is the other major demographic.
Andrew Lemmon CFO for Metropolitan Holdings stated that financial
benefits are outlined, see attached slides; reviewed revenue over 25
years, which is driven by change in real estate taxes, and income taxes;
there will be discretionary income; the targeted demographic spends 3.8
percent of their gross income on food and entertainment which estimates
to $12M over that time frame. McCabe stated that the goal is to revitalize
parcels, utilize appropriate architecture, and bring forward a right-sized
project; would like to see a new gateway; would like to see growth.
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McGregor called for public comments. There were no questions or
comments from the public.
Bowers asked about masonry design; could they explain more about
construction. McCabe said there would be a lot of masonry but not
completely masonry; showed renderings again; the corner element is all
masonry. Bowers asked about the wood frame on slab, is that still
intended. McCabe confirmed, that's the only feasible construction
method for this project; is most reliable.
Renner asked about plans for parking, and specifically the widening of
the alley. McCabe said there are 74 units and a little over 70 spaces; will
have off site leasing of 3-4, nearby; hoping to have one-to-one onsite;
there is a lot of surface parking at private businesses in the area; have
committed to alleyway improvements through widening; will do traditional
street paving; semi-trucks will be able to turn around in the North St. area;
all at developer's cost. McCabe said the only incentives being asked for
are access to the abatement and the vacation of North St.
McGregor asked about the mix of units. Lemmon stated that there would
be a mix of 42 one bedrooms, 10 town homes, and 22 two-bedrooms.
Angelou asked if there will be retail. Lemmon said no. Angelou asked
about recreational opportunities onsite. McCabe said due to the small
scale, would prefer tenants go out and utilize those opportunities around
Gahanna rather than keep them in the property; try to work out benefits
with surrounding retail called metro-perks.
Nate Strum said there will be a walkability standpoint for trails, parks, and
pools. Schnetzer said Council does not pick and choose which
developments will come forward; asking what's the extent of the value
being asked of Council. Strum said value would be vacation of North St.,
and open value is inclusion of taking an abandoned office building and
facility and utilizing those parcels into a meaningful development; will
bring new revenue with new residents. Schnetzer asked if there is any
transfer of money being asked; any TIF reimbursements, or utility
reimbursements down the road. Strum said this is a pre-1994 CRA tax
abatement, but it's entitled due to Ohio Revised Code. Schnetzer said
there was a rezoning on Hamilton Rd. and through a loophole and
transfer, the project was different when completed; asked how we can be
sure that what is developed reflects what is presented tonight. Strum said
they can look at provisions and constraints of the agreement and follow
the project through the Planning Commission process until it comes back
to Council.
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McGregor asked if they looked into building up and over North St.
McCabe said that gets into fire issues; would have to suspend at least 2
stories up due to bridging; when you get into steel the costs increase
significantly. Bowers said Tilton's Auto had concerns before when this
was presented; has anyone reached out to them about this proposal.
Strum said when they reached out to Tilton’s, they still had concerns and
wished to learn more about it. Leeseberg said neighbors had concerns
but said they would be in favor if they were bought out; wanted to be a
part of the project.
McGregor provided another opportunity for public comments or
questions. There were none.
Recommendation: Back to Committee on 12/13/21.
ORD-0077-2021 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 135, DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING, OF THE CODIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA.
Larick stated that there was an ask to review purchasing structures and
rules that exist within our ordinances, specifically under Ch. 135; there
was an ask to draft some language that would reinstate historical
language that had been a place to promote transparency in the process
of expenditures. Angelou looked into a $3,000 threshold, and that
anything being purchased above that amount would require Council
approval; the new threshold is $10,000; it is uncomfortable to hear from
residents or other folks in the city, that there is a plan for the city which
cost $100k; is important for Council to be made aware of these things
and be a part of the process; we work better when we are working
together.
Renner asked if this was in regard to professional services, or if this is
meant for all purchases. McGregor said it was for professional and
personal services. Leeseberg stated it would be for purchases and
services above $10k. Renner stated that there isn’t much you can get for
$10k; the number is low compared to general practices around
central-Ohio; some locations have a $100k threshold; does not see
where it is his duty as a Council Member to approve purchase orders.
Leeseberg stated that the City Attorney must bring any request for
professional services to Council per Charter; agrees that all purchases
above that amount is low but agrees on the professional services part.
Larick said this is a draft, and this is meant to incorporate Council’s
input; the ask for this evening is to discuss, have it introduced at the
Regular meeting and brought back for further discussion at the next
Committee of the Whole meeting.
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Bowers asked if this is for all purchases, and would all equipment need
to be brought forward to Council for approval. Angelou said she wants to
be part of these discussions; wants to collaborate with the administration
on planning and what’s going on in the city; doesn’t want to be surprised
by $100k plans. Schnetzer said he wonders if there should be a more
surgical approach to this and have more targeted changes; when looking
at proposed capital requests, many items on that list are above the $10k
amount, and does not believe Council needs to approve all of those
items. Larick stated that on an annual basis there is a request for salt,
which is standard and completed outside of the budgetary process; they
also approve requests to go to bid; at the same time, when funds are
used for professional services or other items, which cost significant dollar
amounts, they are not always coming before Council; if the focus is on the
$10K amount, that can be changed. Schnetzer said aside from contract
services, does not believe this is necessary; there is line-item detail in
the Capital Needs Assessment. Renner stated that he concurs with
Schnetzer; does not believe this belongs in section 135.04 and the
number is far too low.
Leeseberg said for items in the budget and CNA, recalls times when
items have been presented to Council for approval and then never get
completed and the money is sitting around and not spent, and then gets
transferred for other uses that were not intended for originally; this year
we had parks money that was not spent and then later transferred to
Economic Development; we appropriate money and are in charge of the
purse; not unreasonable to be a part of the process; just last year $30k
was spent on a brand refresh and Council heard about it after the fact; is
a fair ask to be a part of how money is spent.
Schnetzer asked if the Director of Finance could discuss
inter-department transfers. Bury stated that those are common in most
municipalities; there is a fluid budget process; things change and funding
that is no longer needed in one department may be moved to another
department; it all stays in the same general fund; those are brough
forward to Council for approval. Leeseberg said those are for
inter-department transfers. Bury said for any appropriations transfer.
Leeseberg stated that for inside one department, you can change the
project, but if it does not change departments then it is not brough to
Council. Bury said she can move up to $3,000 between series of
accounts; above that, even in same department, must be approved by
Council.
Schnetzer asked how the City Attorney and Administration perceived this
would work. Bowers asked if the City Attorney had an opportunity to
review and comment before this moves to first reading. Mularski stated
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that he had not; it went out Friday evening and was never sent a copy;
was made aware of it on Saturday morning; no one had asked for his
opinion; when looking over it this weekend sees that 135.03 is violative
of the Charter; cannot say that Director of Public Service shall have the
exclusive authority to purchase and lease all goods; the Charter states
that in 3.04, the authority is given to the Mayor or her designee; is happy
to help, but does not believe this says what Council wants. Mularski
stated that he reads this as any item over $10k must be approved by
Council. Angelou stated that her first proposed change was sent to him
by the clerk and then there were changes made to that, which is what is
presented tonight. Mularski stated that he did receive that from the Clerk
but had not looked at it yet because he didn’t know it was going to be
addressed since we were working through the budget.
Larick stated that in July there was an administration contract executed
with an architecture firm for consulting services, in the amount of $100k,
and the funds came from multiple locations; questioned how that
occurred without passing through Council; there were a few lines
included in Mayor’s reports about it, but not really any detail. Bury stated
it was opened from the multiple accounts that had the appropriations
available; there were available in the economic development department
and mayor’s office. Strum stated that the scope of work included
previously appropriated dollars for a revisioning plan from the mayor’s
office budget; the inclusion of developer interviews was also included;
stated that Larick said there were a few lines in the Mayor’s reports, but
went back and did an independent analysis and this was referenced 35
times; a few times before he joined the office, but certainly 35 different
Mayor’s reports referenced that contract. Larick asked if the contract
itself executed in July? Strum said the plan, or the intention of the plan, or
the execution of the plan, as well as being brought up multiple times at
CIC meetings. Larick said that was separate from Council. Angelou
stated that was at CIC not here. Strum stated that Council has two
representatives to the CIC.
Schnetzer said he would see having further discussion for the
professional services piece but not for the other. Larick stated that
135.04a could be removed, and then take forward the other piece for
further discussion at a future committee meeting. Leeseberg stated that it
could be introduced as is and amended at a future committee since there
will be other amendments anyway. Bowers asked if they would be waiting
on further feedback from the City Attorney; would prefer to not move
something forward if it were violative of the Charter. Leeseberg stated
that the concern the City Attorney brought up was on existing code
section, 135.03, which was not redlined for proposed changes.
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Mularski stated that this is presented as a single ordinance and you can
only vote on an ordinance as a whole; if you present it this way you are
voting on everything that’s in here. Larick stated that what Leeseberg is
pointing out is there are only two sections that have any changes
proposed; what Mularski is looking at is existing code. Mularski said it
doesn’t matter if it’s existing language or not it’s still violative. Bowers
reiterated what Mularski said. Mularski said it should not have been
presented in this manner. Angelou said they did present this to him.
Mularski said they had not sat down to discuss this yet. Mularski stated
that it could be introduced as a separate ordinance with just the two
sections. Mularski stated that it could not. McGregor stated that they
would amend the ordinance to move forward with the section 135.05(e)
(6) to introduce. Mularski stated that it has not been introduced to the
public; you have to give 24-hour notice. Renner stated that work is
needed to restructure this; does not understand the rush.
Council determined that it would be held in committee and discussed at
the next meeting. Bury stated that she is working on this section of code
for federal guidance in order to process ARP funds; will be bringing this
forward for uniform guidance.
Recommendation: Back to Committee on 12/13/21.
C. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 7:17 p.m.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Krystal Gonchar, MPA, Clerk of Council
Monday, December 6, 2021 6:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
ORD-0086-2021 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS FOR
THE MILL STREET APARTMENTS.
ORD-0077-2021 AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 135, DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING, OF THE CODIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA.
C. ADJOURNMENT
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