Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · January 27, 2014
Minutes
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Monday, January 27, 2014
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
Council Committee Rooms
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Karen J. Angelou
Ryan P. Jolley
Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Finance Committee Meeting Minutes January 27, 2014
ROLL CALL:
Present 7 - Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley,
Stephen A. Renner, Thomas R. Kneeland, and Michael Schnetzer
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES:
City Attorney Ewald, Dottie Franey, Joann Bury, Matt Holdren, Karl
Wetherholt, Gen. James Williams, Chief Murphy, Niel Jurist, Anthony
Jones, Mayor Stinchcomb, Sue Wadley, Jennifer Teal, Tony Collins,
Carter Bean, Greg Gallas, 2 residents, Clerk McWilliams.
PENDING ISSUES - From Chair Schnetzer
1. Risk-Based Review of Reserve Policy Outline
Schnetzer asked what Council deemed an appropriate use of the
reserves and that will guide us down the path of how much that should
be; structure the conversation into 2 buckets; one is revenue and one
is expenditure; asked Teal about cash flow and timing; any kind of
intracalendar year peaks and troughs and the concept of max draw
down. Teal stated generally from a revenue standpoint, we have a
steady cash flow; most general fund revenue 65-70% comes in from
income tax collections; that comes in from employee withholdings and
most do that on a monthly basis; that is a very steady $1million/month
coming in from RITA; do see a pick up in May when many individuals
pay their amounts; but it is generally between $1.1 and $1.3 million;
other top revenue sources are charges for service, court fees and
fines; that income is pretty consistent; we have a decent amount of
revenue coming in from recreation; that is summer-centric; property
distributions in February and September; total property taxes are
about $1.6 per year in the general fund.
Teal continued on the expense side: primary expense are salaries and
benefits; does pick up in summer when we have a lot more part-timers
coming in; capital projects tend to be later in the year after it has
warmed up; have a large spike in cash related to debt services but
that is not coming out of the general fund; out of debt service fund;
this is all relevant when you take it in contrast to economies of other
entities; for example, if we were dependent on sales tax, you could
see huge shifts month to month; in my opinion, a risk we would have is
a large withholder leaving; that would be the type of risk that would
affect us from a revenue standpoint. Schnetzer asked about lowest
month. Teal stated couldn't say; certainly earlier in the year; once tax
season hits, we do pick up. Larick asked who the largest withholder is
excepting the City and Schools. Teal was not sure; largest withholder
brings in more than half million a year; that is a significant portion; we
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get a report from RITA every month; can provide that. Schnetzer
asked about interyear fluctuations. Teal said we analyzed income tax
data quite a bit; meat of information lies there; looked back to 2000;
there was one gross anomaly, the year we transitioned to RITA; was
not a problem but we had a month where we received no income tax
cash because we did not receive it while RITA began collecting; done
our best to normalize that data; we did feel the impact of the
recession; have seen a very slow and steady increase in income tax
collections; have not identified any other large or inexplicable change
in collections; one area difficult to predict is net profit return; can be
variable but it is such a small portion; 5% of income tax collections.
Schnetzer stated beyond revenues, let's look at expenses; anything
that would blow a hole in our budget. Larick asked what we consider
an emergency; what this fund would be used for. Mayor stated
Franklin County as well as Gahanna has done a natural disaster
analysis. Gen. Wiliams stated we have done a hazard analysis and
analyzed probability of a number of hazards; some are unique to
Gahanna; other parts of the County don't have to take into
consideration airplane crashes into City buildings; flooding is the
number one hazard that we face; based on historical facts and
geographic location on Big Walnut Creek and Hoover Dam being
close by; flash flooding is something we face; Oklahoma Avenue is the
only facility to really face that hazard; if you don't have flood insurance
and there is no need to have it; if you have a major flood and it is
classed as presidentially declared disaster, FEMA will pay you a 5%
loss; things like a tornado, major fire are covered by insurance;
anyone that would fund you for disaster will ask how much insurance
coverage you have; we have a $1,000 deductible; they will fund 75%
of that; we have a good handle on the hazards that may affect the City
and they are insurance covered. Mayor stated sometimes there are
cash flow issues. Schnetzer stated let's work towards quantifying
those. Larick stated from a disaster standpoint, those things are
covered, what about an incident where the businesses are closed and
cannot reopen, now you've got a loss of revenue. Gen. Williams stated
FEMA will not compensate any of that. Leeseberg stated we have day
to day expenses and people working around the clock. Gen. Williams
stated our risk is not so much the cost of property the City owns but
the loss of revenue if a disaster were to destroy a business. Schnetzer
asked do we have the capability of modeling something like that. Gen.
Williams stated you could project that; all probabilities and
possibilities; should think about what the impact would be if we were to
lose a major employer for a set amount of time. Schnetzer stated what
defines an emergency; economic recession, would that constitute an
emergency. Larick stated it needs to have structure around it but yes.
Gen. Williams said if you want to define that, you could say any type
of emergency that creates a loss of revenue of 10-15% to City.
Kneeland stated there will be an expense rate also. Teal stated she
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has seen specific but not limiting language regarding how Council
could define an emergency; she has also seen discussion of other
economic events that reduce revenue by x% for 2 quarters. Schnetzer
asked about financial risk; do we have any variable rate or derivative
exposure. Teal answered no. Schnetzer asked if there is any legal risk.
Wadley stated workers compensation covers that. Teal added that we
are self insured for workers compensation; we do not have enough to
cover stop loss gap for catastrophic injury; if we were not self funded,
we would not have the outlay up front but our rates would go up so
significantly that it would feel the same. Schnetzer asked about
negligence. Franey answered we would have liability insurance for
that; we would have deductibles and reinsurance amounts; the
amount depends on the issue; it is either $5,000, $10,000 or $15,000.
Angelou asked about law suits. Ewald answered he thinks we have 6;
can get the number. Schnetzer said he wanted to define emergency in
this conversation then move to quantifying it. Angelou stated there
was something mentioned in the paper about Gahanna Grill saying
they don't have anyone coming in due to weather. Schnetzer asked
about an extreme winter and any data on those expenditures.
Wetherholt stated there is another thing that could happen ; something
like Cherry Bottom Road sliding over the hill. Teal named it
infrastructure failure; risk is low but cost is high. Larick asked is there a
debt source to be used. Teal answered yes. Gen. Williams stated you
do need to front those funds. Leeseberg stated if we have to front the
money, we also lose the income from the investment. Larick asked
how we go from this discussion into a statement. Schnetzer stated he
was hoping to get a laundry list of things and talk about mitigating
factors. Franey stated in enterprise funds, a certain percentage of
funds are set aside for danger of revenue falling; there is also a
percentage we hold back for capital issues; separate operating fund
we work out of. Kneeland asked would there be a disaster type that
would overrun those funds. Franey stated anything is possible but we
did what you are doing here; tried to come up with what are all of the
possibilities and what is the worst one; or you could go with a
percentage of your revenue; we did both and go with a percentage on
a regular basis because it seemed to cover the most catastrophic
thing that could happen. Schnetzer asked Police for any type of
emergency that would tax the Police Division. Chief stated we would
automatically do mutual aid with other agencies; if there was a long
term situation; we would get the job done or bring in other agencies.
Kneeland asked if you had a situation with guys taken out of work
force for a long time, would mutual aid run out or would we have to
pay them back. Chief stated we would be very efficient but we wouldn't
do a lot of additional business; would not be beyond us to ask the
National Guard for help. Angelou asked about ammunition and lack of
it; what happens if that becomes worse. Chief stated ammunition has
quadrupled in price; we never just do minimum; if another department
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was in a pinch we would help them; as I would expect they would help
us. Larick asked for next step. Schnetzer stated we will compile all we
talked about and ask directors about mitigating factors and bring it
back to committee. Leeseberg thanked directors for coming with such
great information tonight.
Jayme D. Maxwell, CMC, Reporting
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Agenda
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Monday, January 27, 2014
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
Council Committee Rooms
Finance Committee
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
to be responsive, accessible and accountable to our diverse and growing community of citizens.
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Karen J. Angelou
Ryan P. Jolley
Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Stephen A. Renner
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
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Finance Committee Meeting Agenda January 27, 2014
PENDING ISSUES - From Chair Schnetzer
1. Risk-Based Review of Reserve Policy Outline
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