Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · November 24, 2014
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley,
Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, November 24, 2014 Council Committee Rooms
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
Members:
Present 6 - Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J. Angelou, Michael Schnetzer,
Stephen A. Renner, and Thomas R. Kneeland
Absent 1 - Ryan P. Jolley
Additional Attendees:
Mayor Stinchcomb, City Attorney Ewald, Chief Murphy, Lt. Spence,
Dottie Franey, Matt Holdren, Sue Wadley, Rory Gaydos, Tony Collins,
Anthony Jones, Clerk McWilliams.
Schnetzer called Finance Committee to order at 7:56 p.m.
PENDING LEGISLATION
ORD-0163-2014 TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND
OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, OHIO
DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2015.
Attachments: 2015 Appropriation-1
2015 Budget Message from the Mayor
2015 Proposed Budget
APPROPRIATION ORD - FINAL
Schnetzer has not received any in depth questions and making the
assumption that due to the complexity of the document that more time
is needed; without a list of questions to come his way it is difficult to
come up with a structure; would like to open the floor for discussion;
Angelou inquired on the TIF, if they are preforming well, what are the
things that cause this; is this a typical thing, are there specifics; Teal
replied can be prepared for next committee meeting; Schnetzer
preferred email to encourage discussion and preparedness; Larick
noted next opportunity on Monday to get the word out; inviting the
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community for input to get as many eyes on budget document as
possible; proposed to Council to put an amount in Council budget for
contract services; same as last year and some is already in the
document, but requesting the full amount be put back in; amount to
provide assistance and support to the administration for projects and
initiative and permit resources to be brought to the table providing
expertise and skills for areas that can be addressed, but require
additional leverage; Schnetzer inquired if what Larick is asking is
bumping the current request of $15,000 for contract services to
$100,000; Schnetzer inquired how much of the $100,000 was spent;
Teal noted total was a $10,000 cost and $35,000 for a total of $45,000
encumbered; Schnetzer inquired based on those figures is the
$100,000 a good amount; Larick confirmed, it is a good place to be;
Schnetzer inquired on Police Department current run-rate in a 5 year
projection show a $250,000 costs for vehicle replacement; would like
to add calcification for what vehicles are being replaced; Franey
replied prior to 2008 equipment was replaced by age; now
replacement is based on multiple criteria; in 2012 the next phase
determines how much would it cost if every year you could budget on
a fixed amount; considering a set budget, how much would it cost;
$250,000 amount was decided upon and would be the yearly request
each year for the police department equipment; in 2013 Police
Department received $250,000 and was reduced to $100,000 in 2014;
intention is to get a set amount and could budget based on
guaranteed amount; Angelou inquired after the $250,000 amount they
wouldn’t need more allocations for this matter; Franey confirmed; felt
strongly that if they had a set amount they wouldn’t have to ask for a
cent more; Larick inquired what year the ten cruisers were acquired;
Franey replied 2008; Spence clarified it was 2012 into 2013; Franey
would ask that even though it was a lump purchase replacements are
not based on age, but multiple criteria; might need to replace all or
significantly less; Stinchcomb noted criteria: mileage, maintenance,
accidents, history; Larick noted ten cars authorized, five came on in
2012 and five came on in 2013, and the $250,000 in 2013 was for the
five cars, is that correct; Spence confirmed some of those; Franey
additionally clarified they could have been from a previous
appropriation as the process of acquisition is lengthy; Angelou noted
maintenance rotations and new program where the same officer drives
the same car; Spence confirmed an assigned fleet program; instills
ownership of the vehicle from the officer and utilizes as many
up-hours as possible from the vehicle; Angelou noted if they want to
save $250,000, they can spend on a higher price item in the future;
Spence confirmed, no money was spent from the $100,000 allocation
this year; Kneeland inquired if the $250,000 covers total cost of
ownership for the vehicle and up fitting; Spence confirmed, the cars
are life cycled and it covers the total life-cost of the vehicle.
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Angelou inquired about the golf course gas tank replacements, they
have a twenty-year life cycle, intention to position the new tanks above
ground; Franey replied tanks have been in there for 20 years and they
are approaching a high-risk time frame; replacements should be
considered; also experimenting with alternative fuel sources like
propane to lower costs; Angelou inquired since they may use
alternative fuel sources, would there be any grants; Franey noted they
would look into grants; Angelou inquired if the tank replacements are a
necessity; Franey noted tanks have to be manually checked and
verified for no leaks each year, but the longer it goes the more of a
concern; Schnetzer inquired what the risk would be if there was a leak;
Franey noted it is very messy; Angelou noted only twice in Gahanna
history we have had gas leaks, we could get through another year, but
not without increasing concern; Schnetzer noted a risk assessment; if
damage is hypothetically $100,000, but the tanks are $50,000 then it
is a good choice to replace the tanks.
Angelou inquired with the safe routes to school at Cherry Bottom;
pathway planned on a right-of-way near a property; issue has been
resolved with the property owner; Priestas confirmed all are
agreeable.
Schnetzer noted on page 159, inquired on potential bonding on Detroit
streets and Big Walnut Trail; Teal replied intention was to be clear on
differentiating the model which is the inclusive five-year plan for
long-time sustainable operations for the city, and budget request
which is the actual appropriation passed by Council; sustainable
operating model can accommodate the anticipated debt service for
completed 1/3 of the City’s remaining Detroit St. rebuild and a high
priority section of the Big Walnut Trail, but did not include in the
appropriations request the cash to pay the debt service, because there
is no bond deal; wouldn’t be able to tell cost now, but required funds to
handle appropriations; would look in January to bring a proposal
forward to Council for those two pieces; Leeseberg inquired projection
sustainable, but not in the appropriation; Teal confirmed; Angelou
noted another fee onto license plates, if passed cities would have
permission to do it; at state level passage and well received; Teal has
followed the legislation; would be good to have funds; Angelou
inquired if we still have a process in place to determine if the plates
required to be purchased in Gahanna are so purchased; Teal noted
Columbus audits annually; Gahanna has not done an audit recently;
noted Columbus went to GIS system and the number of auditing
errors diminished considerably; computer does it at the time of
registration; gain and lose license plate; get the net of winners and
losers; and thus, most cities found it no longer of their best interest to
spend money on auditing the plates; Angelou noted potential to help
with funding.
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Kneeland inquired about the sidewalk extension on Flint Ridge Dr., is
it identified in the binder; Jones replied outside of the project scope
and would come from TIF funds, but does not permit current building
with our current funds; Kneeland noted spending for the project now
and recouping with TIF revenue; noted elderly pedestrians and traffic
increases will pose increasing risk; Franey clarified under priority 3,
$10,000 for design in 2016 and anticipated costs at $214,000; outlined
on page 61 in the capital needs assessment; Angelou inquired if that
would fit the project into safe routes for school; Jones replied he
doesn’t think it applies, will investigate; Priestas noted and will review,
but has to be considered under school travel plan to count; Kneeland
clarified concern with it being a priority 3; can’t be 1, because
economic development is key, but concerned with safety issues; with
onset of development there will be new residents in neighborhood and
is unsafe.
Schnetzer noted 2014 reassessment year for county; Jones added
receiving first installment; Schnetzer noted Cable Franchise Fee; how
susceptible that is to reduction; what is the driver of that fee; Franey
noted cable franchise fees are compensation for using public right of
ways; $500,000 range for five years, before for two years was in
$400,000 range, and even further back at $300,000; very stable
increase; are provided by cable network itself.
RECOMMENDATION: First Reading; back to Committee
Schnetzer adjourned the Finance Committee at 8:30 p.m.
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley,
Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, November 24, 2014 Council Committee Rooms
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
PENDING LEGISLATION
ORD-0163-2014 TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND
OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, OHIO
DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2015.
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