Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · February 9, 2015
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg,
Karen J. Angelou
, Ryan P. Jolley,
Stephen A. Renner
, Thomas R. Kneeland
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 9, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
Members -
Present 6 - Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley,
Thomas R. Kneeland, and Michael Schnetzer
Absent 1 - Stephen A. Renner
Addtional Attendees -
Present: Mayor Becky Stinchcomb, City Attorney Shane Ewald, Clerk
of Council Kim McWilliams, Sue Wadley, Niel Jurist, Chief Murphy,
Rory Gaydos, Jennifer Teal, Dottie Franey, Anthony Jones, Tony
Collins, Rob Priestas, Press, Residents.
Schnetzer called Finance Committee to order at 7:03 p.m.
ITEM - From Council
1. Emmett Kelly - Frost, Brown, Todd LLC
Schnetzer introduced Emmett Kelly Esquire, from Frost, Brown, Todd
LLC; since the development plan is in process and Council will need a
deliverable context, it will be important to discuss potential finance
options for the City; Kelly will speak on these options; Kelly thanked
Council for the opportunity to speak; commended Jones for his work in
Development; noted working with City before; has additionally worked
with City Municipal Advisor; good team already in place; Kelly enjoys
working with everyone at the City; hopes by delivering an overview
tonight it will inspire questions; first thing to look at is understand how
we issue debt and what our debt capacity is as a municipality; Charter
speaks to code provision with respect to debt; some municipalities
have direct debt limitations; City per code can issue $13 million in
debt; Kelly noted brief background; he is a Counsel Bond Lawyer;
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works with underwriters to help government entities with their debt
issuance; occasionally works with Municipal Advisors on disclosure
issues, structuring issues, and economic development plans;
municipalities across the nation are constantly looking for
opportunities for revenue, and thus, Kelly will assist these
municipalities to develop creative solutions to address the potential
revenue sources; Public Private Partnerships (P3) or working with
public assets that are leases for a term; the revenues are used to pay
for municipal services; noted recent actions in P3 conferences on
“vertical P3” or developments of buildings through P3s; the bigger the
project the more potential and availability; noted lots of P3
developments as of late; discussed debt limitations; there are two
types of debt limitations: voted and unvoted debt; voted means you’re
have to go to the voters for project approval, project is called an
unlimited general obligation for the City; interest on bond is calculated
and then a levy is placed on the assessed valuation on the property; if
you have a good credit you can demand a low interest rate; very
strong option when possible; unvoted debt is where you borrow at a
limited tax general obligation credit; still a powerful credit, not as
strong as voted; any governmental entity that has the power to ask the
voter is subject to direct debt limitations, but not subject to indirect
debt limitations; Gahanna's assessed valuation is just under 1 billion
dollars; noted long list of debt limitations; unvoted debt limitations is
right around 20 million; municipalities have lot of exemption on their
debt value limitations; have tremendous capacity at the City to borrow;
the county has a good staff to assist with the 10 million; total voted
and unvoted is 105 million dollar limit; with 25 million of non-exempt
debt; and a borrowing capacity of 80 million dollars; when you think
about issuing debt you must analyze both of these numbers; noted
many theories on how to calculate debt limitations; when you have a
10 million limitation; often confusion; the 10 million is levied every year
and you are allocated your percentages; guaranteed millage; long
history of that practice going back to the 1930s; free millage exists
when the portion of the 10 million isn’t used; could look at permitted
improved projects to shift unused millage; school districts have moved
inside millage to pay for their school facilities; noted southern Ohio
case with school districts; moved millage, but had surplus as many
school districts want to carry surplus; case went to Supreme Court of
Ohio, court ruled they didn’t account for surplus when moved millage,
therefore could’ve used surplus and would’ve had an increase in
taxes; noted another case when school district accounted for the
surplus and survived the case; County Budget Commission has a lot
of flexibility when approaching debt; Kelly welcomed questions;
Schnetzer inquired the distinction between the 10 million limitation and
the 5.5% limited general obligation; Kelly clarified they are two
different things; the debt capacity is the 5.5% limitation; the 10 million
limitation amount of millage within the property of City; Schnetzer
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inquired the Debt Service Reserve or sinking funds; the 5.5% and 10
million are net debt; Kelly confirmed both are usually referencing the
reduced debt; will be surplus, but there will be a small amount of
adjustable debt; Kneeland inquired on the overlapping subdivisions;
how is end determined on multiple subdivisions; Kelly noted each City
has different limitations; school districts take the largest chunk;
overlapping townships take another chunk; situations where
annexation are of different millage; what is left between the two
subdivision may be negotiated; generally the township, municipalities,
and subdivisions; Kneeland inquired if you have multiple subdivisions
within the municipalities; one large and one small; Stinchcomb clarified
Gahanna has two townships, what will the result be; Kelly noted both
get calculated and debt limitations will be increased; Kneeland
inquired if a small component may have the larger millage, what would
the result be; Teal clarified an example where City has land within
Jefferson township; during annexation and negotiations after,
Gahanna can only collect 1.3 of the available 2.4 millage in that
section, because the millage was higher before Gahanna existed;
Leeseberg inquired of the surplus; what is the definition of surplus;
Kelly clarified the general fund and what is available for the rainy day
fund; not looking at debt or rainy day debt; good example is the rainy
day fund; Leeseberg clarified is that above and beyond, because our
funds may be designated for other things; Teal clarified that of the
excess reserves we would disclose from special compensations
because we have a surplus; Kelly clarified this specific action is not a
common action and it would have to be a dire situation for that
allocation to take place; Angelou inquired what types of projects could
you tap into; for example if City was doing a series of projects for
residential roads; can you tap into those funds for this type of project;
Kelly replied you may, but the City has to demonstrate it's a specific
permanent improvement, roads, sewer, water, etc; very broad
definition; has to be specific today and not down the road; Teal
clarified that would be a shift from the inside current millage; would it
be an appropriate use of voted debt though; Kelly confirmed, but
noted you have to have a reasonable plan of how to use the funds;
Kneeland clarified would this be on-going or renewable; Teal noted it
is outside and would this be an appropriate use for additional millage;
Kelly concurred would be an appropriate use; Schnetzer asked Kelly
to speak to project financing options available; Kelly noted Tax
Increment Financing (TIF), as a legislative body can exempt bodies
from tax; not a true exemption; can generate property tax to benefit
public with improvements; Kelly noted depending on development the
benefit to both the citizen and the community there are many kinds of
negotiations; it will depend on the municipality trying to reach the
agreement; good because you don’t have to borrow against it; reduces
cost for building with the public improvements; noted that's taking
existing revenue and reallocating for existing projects; noted Joint
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Economic Development Agreements; sharing of income tax between
municipalities; more revenue and can be directed toward more
projects as you see fit; noted another type is New Community
Authority; can be used for green field uses and new developments;
downside is charge imposed on the property; called a Community
Development Charge; noted an improvement of credit for that type of
borrowing; not quite as good a General Obligation, but still good; can
depend on the development; more based on what market can bear;
noted different kinds of TIFs; urban development TIFs; good revenue
stream to lessen burden of debt service requirement; noted Special
Improvement District; not the same as New Community Authority, but
similar; City would have the ability to impact the capacity to work with
the County; most of the defaults with these options have been
because the developments collapsed financially; Angelou inquired
what kind of use would that be for; Kelly replied road, sewer, water,
park, healthcare, education; it is a long list; Schnetzer inquired if it
could be interjurisdictional; Kelly confirmed; provisions of the law
provide municipal control if it is within the boundaries; noted provision
that permits the formation of an Organizational Board of
Commissioners can preside over; Angelou inquired when the law was
instituted; Kelly replied law instituted in '72; changed in '06 or '07;
applied to municipalities created before 2012; new provisions after;
Schnetzer noted charge created by New Community Authority; Kelly
clarified developers bring the petitions and they have to show financial
information, projections, and development plan; may contact
developer to determine feasibility of the development; noted a unique
example with Pinnacle; can do uniform charge on the authority which
will start on day one of development with charge; other option
increases with value as the value of the development increases; noted
similarities with Special Improvement District; can be allocated for
enhancement of public services and municipal services, but property
owners must agree to assess themselves; two forms of assessment;
recommends the 75% agreement level for assessments; has been
done, but must support property owners in the process; Kelly
appreciates working with the City and thanked Council for the
opportunity to speak.
ITEM - From the Director of Finance
Director of Finance Supporting Documents
1. Motion Resolution to Transfer Funds
Item moved to Committee of the Whole for discussion with "2.
Revision to the 2015 Unclassified Salary Ordinance" under "ITEMS -
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From the Director of Human Resources"
Adjournment
Kneeland adjourned Finance Committee at 8:00 p.m.
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair, Brian D. Larick,
Jamie Leeseberg,
Karen J. Angelou
, Ryan P. Jolley,
Stephen A. Renner
, Thomas R. Kneeland
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 9, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
ITEM - From Council
1. Emmett Kelly - Frost, Brown, Todd LLC
ITEM - From the Director of Finance
2015-0036 Director of Finance Supporting Documents
1. Motion Resolution to Transfer Funds
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