Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · May 9, 2016
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Karen J. Angelou
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Nancy McGregor
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, May 9, 2016 Council Committee Rooms
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Schnetzer called the meeting to order at 9:18 p.m.
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES: Anthony Jones, Dottie Franey, Rob
Priestas, Diana Redman, Troy Euton, Mayor Tom Kneeland, Jennifer
Teal, Shane Ewald, Joann Bury, Jeannie Hoffman.
Present 7 - Stephen A. Renner, Brian D. Larick, Brian Metzbower, Karen J. Angelou,
Nancy R. McGregor, Michael Schnetzer, and Jamie Leeseberg
DISCUSSION ITEMS -
1. Deferred Maintenance Cost
Franey said discussing the credit, Chapter 1, of deferred maintenance
cost; gets asked a lot from residents how the City is doing; wanted to
formalize this and get it on record; goal is to get a feel for a cost of
deferred maintenance; the more you push something out the more it
costs; wanted to put something out to show that; the CAFR, linked to
the agenda; page 150 of the PDF, sees a 10 year look back on
government funds; draws attention to capital outlet; we are now
spending a fraction of what we were 10 years ago; trying to show the
cost of not maintaining our streets for a few years; this shows no;
Priestas has some data to show; put together several exhibits to help
illustrate this; looked at typical street pavement condition rating
progression; started at an excellent, sees a significant drop in a short
period of time; what that tells us is that essentially, any significant
delay will result in an increase in cost to improve a roadway; this is a
national average, we have plotted data points for our roadways to
compare the national average; we are slightly ahead of the curve;
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once the pavement gets below 75, you are looking at something near
$65 per linear square foot for resurfacing; Metzbower asked the fair
vs. poor, both $65; Priestas points out it is or more, hard to monetize;
Mayor Kneeland said spent a lot of time on this discussion last week;
if we get to this rating, what does that mean; it means the surface has
failed; allows infiltration of the base; above 65 is typically just the
surface that needs replaced; the "or more" could be as much as $300
per L.F.; Angelou asked if we can resurface multiple times and never
have to do more; Priestas said typically yes, depends on the base;
Angelou said the key here is the minute you need to resurface, you
need to perform that; Larick said appears if our target is around 20
years; we are cycling 20% more road on an annual basis; will roughly
put us in a cycle that keeps us in the 75 range; cannot predict what will
happen down the road; can see the life of the road to determine the
annualization of replacement; some roads will fall in various places
currently; want to make sure we are able to maintain when it is
needed; Schnetzer confirmed 75 was the dividing line; Priestas said
the cost of deferred maintenance is a difficult question to answer;
clear on the previous chart; were able to utilize some real-world
examples; had to make some assumptions; both rated in low to mid
40's; both required full depth base repair; had we performed
maintenance hardly any road repairs would have been needed; a total
of $165,000 was actually spent; is a 30% increase; for Clotts Road it
was a 40% increase in the project due to deferred maintenance;
Larick asked if we have had any roads we have replaced in the 60's;
Priestas said Heil was in the 60s; with his experience, these are the
two that stood out; if we replaced others it was a Detroit Street
Rebuild; Priestas said where the City is today versus the past; showed
a pavement condition rating history/trend; dropped from mid 90s to low
80s; 2010 nothing was spent on resurfacing; Schnetzer said we have
10% of our streets below the 75 threshold that we saw; we have 50%
of our streets that are beyond the time; Larick said short translation,
the longer we wait to repair the street, the less miles of street can be
repaired for a given dollar amount; Leeseberg said in 2015 we were
playing catch-up; Schnetzer thanked the staff for the work they have
put into this; said this started with a theory; the exhibits are great;
disappointed that the thesis proved correct; deferred maintenance is
not proven; urges Council to keep this in mind; Mayor Kneeland asked
how long we can plan to do the rebuilds; Priestas said it is a plan that
can be sustainable; will monitor on an annual basis to see if we are
making progress; we are bonding the 1.2 million we need; that runs
out in another year or two; we need to find additional funds; Larick
asked after the funds run out; asked how much is left; Priestas said
around $12.4-17 million.
2. Credit
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See previous discussion.
DOC-0114-2016
ADJOURNMENT
9:38 p.m.
Kayla Holbrook, Reporting
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Karen J. Angelou
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Nancy McGregor
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, May 9, 2016 Council Committee Rooms
Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
DISCUSSION ITEMS -
1. Deffered Maintenance Cost
2. Credit
DOC-0114-2016
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