Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · November 26, 2018
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Finance Committee
Monday, November 26, 2018 Council Committee Room
*Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE - 2019 Appropriations
ORD-0099-2018 TO MAKE TEMPORARY APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT
EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE GENERAL FUND
TO JANUARY 31, 2019 AND TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR
CURRENT EXPENSES AND EXPENDITURES FOR ALL OTHER
FUNDS DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2019
FOR THE CITY OF GAHANNA, STATE OF OHIO.
Mayor had comments; provide context; Schnetzer said Gahanna grew up
a number of years ago; provided answers to the questions; talked about
tax revenue per capita; tax revenue per mile; talked about where revenue
is coming from; Joann Bury said amounts were pulled right from the
auditor's reports; Schnetzer said defer to Bury for the 20 year projected
expenses; 2019 has not been updated for the recommended budget;
does not include gap; will refresh 20 year projection; supplying those
historical averages to future years; per average; some years might be
better than others; Mayor said the vertical line for 2017 is the expense
line; haven't applied this budget; what is the explainable operating model;
run the city and just keep the lights on; clarify that; there is a gap; this
particular budget is so challenging; figure out a way to bridge that gap;
mathematically not possible; provide context of why we are here and
asking for public input; two weeks ago we dove into the budget; number
of questions were asked; this evening is a continuation of the last
meeting to answer those questions.
First Q; see presentation; over the next 4 yrs will replace servers; 6 year
time frame is when things wear out; more down time you will have with
issues; buy servers with redundant power drives; configured in a way and
not have an outage; Larick asked about cutting funding for one year,
leaves enough; cutting other years isn't enough; $6k could be pulled out;
conferred capital expenditure; raises the cost and pushed bigger burden
to another date; in regard to core services; industry standard is 5 to 6
year time frame; list of number of reduction to make the budget fit; the
ask is to show us how we got to this; Leeseberg said calls over time and
equipment will become more expensive; run about 120 virtual services;
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plan to move it to the cloud;
Asked if there is anything that is $100k or more that can be discussed;
Creekside is a good example; Rob Priestas said the flooring program is
a very modest program.
Radio replacement discussion; had couple of years of prior cuts; to fully
refund replacement schedule would be asking $121,500; program cost;
variable costs; no guarantee those would be available; roughly $40k add;
be cognizant of the increase;
Regarding the SRO program, Mr. Barrett was out of town; will have
answer at next meeting; Larick said last hired officer was one month ago;
base pay of new hired officer; $75K for police recruit; conversation with
the schools to see if they can absorb more of the expenses; Angelou
said she doesn't think we should ever take it away; the ask is to pick the
cost of the two full time officers; still fund the 3rd; use the third officers for
other duties;
What is the rationale of what's received from the school vs the cost to the
schools; Leeseberg said the proposal was not to do away with the
program; cornerstone of 2019 was to expand this program based on how
important it is; Larick said the core of the discussion, the basic
understanding of a path forward would require a list of items to be
adjusted; as we look at the asphalt overly, it was reduced be $60K is an
add; none of that included a Detroit Street rebuild of any kind; would
complete streets on 7-8 year schedule.
Basically, Bury said stop 1x program; not a re-occurring; as is the west
side park; Metzbower asked if there was money allocated for branding
signs; asked about signs on vehicles; not on active new logo on new
cruisers or if logo has been damaged; no difference in cost; McGregor
said $95 for signage or just for the study; wasn't for any actual sign; PCR
Progression Curve Source: US Dept. of Transportation Federal Highway
Administration; vertical line to the left; horizontal line reflects roadway
over time; pavement starts to drop off; full depth repairs; difference
ratings vs; savings of $4 or more for every dollar; 75 is most efficient
standard; most cost effective; showed street that is rated a 75;
fundamentally will be ok; Leeseberg said keep freeze thaw protected.
Angelou said we are looking at costs; have we looked at raising fees;
Priestas said look at yearly; try to stay competitive fees in the industry;
will of council to stop paying ongoing expenses with savings; the City has
cash has reserves; as emergency whether tornado or another
emergency; we have to be careful to draw a line in the sand; spend cash
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balance funds forward; have to be cognizant of the future; there will be an
economic impact will hit us again; reasonable to go back and further
study of all fees; can do a deeper dive; see if fees are not covering costs
will be increased; expansion to request go back to identify a shortage for
the experts in the room to make any fundamental changes; to get us to
2.5K from an ongoing source; defer the electrical position; consider
deferring and use contract; looking for long term ways to save the city
money; Angelou asked for energy costs, etc.; the Mayor has put on a
hiring freeze; everything on hold; reviewing everything; he doesn't want to
over-commit to looking at all these programs; look into fee structures and
fees; any programs that can be fee driven; cost savings from hiring
freeze; pass on any other items; Angelou asked what costs would
reduce;
Bury said reduce hours, close both pools on specific dates would save
$13K; or one day a week; $3,600 savings; both pools closed $190K in
savings; most salaries and benefits; Schnetzer said how the revenue
breaks out; more than majority is from membership fees; next revenue
source; swim lessons, etc.; concession stand; $35k life time fitness.
Adjourned at 8:42 p.m.
2018-0073 2019 Budget Discussion Documents
2018-0153 Updated Capital Needs Assessment (for years 2019-2023)
City of Gahanna Page 3
Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Nancy R. McGregor
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Monday, November 26, 2018 Council Committee Room
*Immediately Following Committee of the Whole
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE - 2019 Appropriations
ORD-0099-2018 TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND
OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, OHIO DURING
THE FISCAL YEAR 2019.
December 3: Introduced, Public Hearing
December 10: Committee of the Whole Discussion
December 17: Public Hearing, Regular Agenda; Second Reading; Amend by Substitution & Adopt
2018-0073 2019 Budget Discussion Documents
2018-0153 Updated Capital Needs Assessment (for years 2019-2023)
City of Gahanna Page 1 Printed on 11/21/2018
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